Lalit Sharma

Q: Apple Watch Heart Rate sensor not giving proper readings during intense exercises like P90x3 and Insanity

I have been using my Apple Watch to track my workout sessions and for past few days I have noted that when ever I am doing intense workouts where there is lot of hand movements like P90x3 or Insanity the Apple watch heart rate sensors gives wrong readings. For example, at the peak of P90x3 workout when I am totally out of breath, the Apple watch heart rate sensor will show heart rate as 62 or 70, but the heart should be in excess of 150+. Today, I tried using a Polar heart rate strap and Polar watch on one wrist and Apple watch on other wrist while doing P90x3 Accelerator workout. Many times it happened that Apple Watch was showing heart rate at around 70-80 while the polar was showing heart rate at 160+.

 

I wear the Apple watch snugly, so I don't thing it is happening because it's loose. However, the watch does move a little on hand while exercising.

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Posted on May 18, 2015 7:46 PM

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  • by Jonathan UK,

    Jonathan UK Jonathan UK Nov 27, 2015 9:33 AM in response to NothingLasts1987
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    Nov 27, 2015 9:33 AM in response to NothingLasts1987

    NothingLasts1987 wrote:

     

    .. based on how I was able to accomplish this, I'd like to look into pitching my idea to Apple or a 3rd party. Anyone know how I'd do this?

     

    If you would like to submit feedback to Apple, you can do so here:

    https://www.apple.com/feedback/watch.html

     

    Before doing so, read Apple’s Unsolicited Idea Submission Policy:

    http://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/policies/ideas.html

  • by NothingLasts1987,

    NothingLasts1987 NothingLasts1987 Nov 27, 2015 10:09 AM in response to Jonathan UK
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    Nov 27, 2015 10:09 AM in response to Jonathan UK

    Thank you for the information. I have reviewed the policy and submitted proper feedback.

  • by Jonathan UK,

    Jonathan UK Jonathan UK Nov 27, 2015 10:16 AM in response to NothingLasts1987
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    Nov 27, 2015 10:16 AM in response to NothingLasts1987

    You're welcome.

  • by WvB22,

    WvB22 WvB22 Nov 27, 2015 11:52 AM in response to NothingLasts1987
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    Nov 27, 2015 11:52 AM in response to NothingLasts1987

    Now I'm getting curious. I've tried anything that I could think of and nothing did the trick. I even bought a third party heart rate monitor. It works perfectly now but I hate that I had to spend another 40 Euro to get something working that should have worked right out of the box. If Apple doesn't respond please make sure you ge your idea to the community somehow because it still is a big frustration. Apple seriously dropped the ball on this one. Apparently multi million test facilities couldn't expose this issue we found at our first training sessions. Or were conveniently overseen.

  • by NothingLasts1987,

    NothingLasts1987 NothingLasts1987 Nov 28, 2015 12:44 PM in response to WvB22
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    Nov 28, 2015 12:44 PM in response to WvB22

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    These screenshots were taken after this morning's workout (I'm sorry if they show up excessively large). Prior to implementing my idea, I hardly ever saw my Apple Watch register 140+ bpm unless I stopped moving. Since I've started using my idea, the highest heart rate I have logged on my phone from my watch is 180 bpm. I'm not sure how widespread this issue is but since surveys have shown that a good portion of Apple Watch user's are using it as a fitness companion, I'm hoping Apple will listen to my idea or at least come up with a better one on their own.

  • by Seattle Pylons,

    Seattle Pylons Seattle Pylons Dec 9, 2015 4:54 PM in response to Jason Pruitt
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    Dec 9, 2015 4:54 PM in response to Jason Pruitt

    That's my personal theory as well-- when my heartrate exceeds 150 or so, it seems to divide it by 2.

  • by Seattle Pylons,

    Seattle Pylons Seattle Pylons Dec 9, 2015 5:23 PM in response to NothingLasts1987
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    Dec 9, 2015 5:23 PM in response to NothingLasts1987

    So what's your idea? Surely you're aware that if Apple picks up on it you don't get a dime, so why not share it with the community?

  • by anita_m,

    anita_m anita_m Dec 11, 2015 6:30 PM in response to Lalit Sharma
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    Dec 11, 2015 6:30 PM in response to Lalit Sharma

    my question is not about tracking a planned intense exercise response but rather a tool in tracking an unexpected medical event.

    Am very curious as to what the limitations of the Apple Watch heart rate sensor are. I understand that the Apple Watch is not a medical device but it can be a useful tool in understanding a medical condition. My husband was recently diagnosed with atrial fibrillation (AF) and hospitalized. He had been wearing an Apple Watch since June & we downloaded the heart rate data using QSAccess for review. It appears that occasionally the high rates (140-170) were captured but not reliably. We also recently purchased an AliveCor iPhone case which can take ECGs it also varies from the Apple Watch reading. Readings from a finger pulse-oximeter also often do not agree with the Apple Watch.

    Any clues as to what the reading parameters are?

  • by andrewtheis,

    andrewtheis andrewtheis Dec 19, 2015 5:53 AM in response to All Day Breakfast
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    Dec 19, 2015 5:53 AM in response to All Day Breakfast

    I experience the same issue where my heart rate is usually half of what it should be while working out (sometimes even when at rest). This leads me to believe Apple will be able to fix the issue via a software update. I've tried having the band both loose and tight, doesn't seem to matter.  I live in Austin, TX - maybe I'll grt invited to help them debug at their campus

  • by KMac1,

    KMac1 KMac1 Jan 8, 2016 9:54 AM in response to Lalit Sharma
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    Jan 8, 2016 9:54 AM in response to Lalit Sharma

    I recently read an article regarding a suit being brought against Fitbit related to inaccuracy of the heart rate monitor during exercise. While I think the suit is garbage, I noticed in the article that they mentioned the Fitbit registering a HR about 1/2 of the actual HR during intense exercise (i.e. registering 82bpm when actual was above 160). That was interesting to me because of some poster's thoughts in here. I'm not saying I think it's as simple as the Apple Watch dividing the actual HR in half but more often than not the HR reading is closer to half than it is to actual. Again, this is during intense, non-rhythmic movement exercise only. 

  • by xenophon152,

    xenophon152 xenophon152 Jan 10, 2016 6:28 PM in response to cperdue
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    Jan 10, 2016 6:28 PM in response to cperdue

    I have the same problem. Most of my exercises I get my heart rate very high and find once it's above 120 or so it starts to only track every other beat.

  • by guckykv,

    guckykv guckykv Jan 22, 2016 10:44 AM in response to xenophon152
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    Jan 22, 2016 10:44 AM in response to xenophon152

    Same here. That's a typical distribution while intense training. And 56 is way below my resting heart rate.

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  • by Diego.72,

    Diego.72 Diego.72 Jan 22, 2016 12:05 PM in response to Lalit Sharma
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    Jan 22, 2016 12:05 PM in response to Lalit Sharma

    my apple watch , marked the perfect heartbeat , then 15 days and become inaccurate . Also seated using the application cardio looks, marks me 40 beats while I have 70 more when the display turns off if you call with a touch the brightness drops alone . TRY TO MEASURE WITH CARDIO TO LOOK AND THEN LET OFF THE DISPLAY AND THEN recall it WITH A TOUCH AND SEE THE DISPLAY AND ICONS LESS BRIGHT . I contacted Apple Care and replaced me watch , arrived yesterday , configured , same identical defects . And that Apple can not do so with its customers . I'm not satisfied with Apple Watch . Try it yourself if using the application cardio looks and then once turned off the display and then on low brightness and more .

    Thank away . Diego Italy

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  • by AdamJKB,

    AdamJKB AdamJKB Jan 25, 2016 5:01 AM in response to Lalit Sharma
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    Jan 25, 2016 5:01 AM in response to Lalit Sharma

    I have had the same problem, I doubt it can be solved with a software upgrade as some have suggested. Your heart rate. What it means, and where on Apple Watch you’ll find it. - Apple Support their support article says that the Watch uses photoplethysmography, meaning it uses light to read the movement in your arteries. I have found that my watch will very accurately record my heart rate during these low level activities, or crucially ones outside when it's cold and I'm not perspiring. As soon as I start to work up a sweat, the watch loses the ability to record the heart rate, I'm assuming because the light is being refracted by the sweat, and is no longer readable by the watch. An incredibly frustrating problem for something that is marketed as a 'sporting' product, when really it struggles with anything beyond a brisk walk.

  • by shivna09,

    shivna09 shivna09 Jan 28, 2016 4:57 PM in response to Lalit Sharma
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    Jan 28, 2016 4:57 PM in response to Lalit Sharma

    I have the same problem.... The heart rate sensor is useless for weight lifting, spinning, and kickboxing. What type of activity is left to do? The watch is tight (bought a S/M band to make sure it's tight) and the watch doesn't move very much.

     

    What's frustrating is I had the Microsoft Band and tried the Band 2. Both devices gave me superb heart rate data for all these activities (see blue colored graphs; 648 cal = kickboxing and 289 cal = weightlifting (see the sets)). The green-ish charts (third party app) show the AW data... Which jumps all over the place. I spot checked both devices with a manual heart beat count. The Bands were dead on as far as I could tell... AW doesn't even get close.

     

    Sadly, I think I will be returning the AW shortly (really wanted to like it) because the exercise function has been a huge let down. 

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