Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter 8000

Just bought this mouse about one hour ago. Was thrilled about the possibility of eliminating the need for carying around a wireless presenation controller in my bag.

I have been trying for the past hour to get this baby to pair up with my internal bluetooth radio, but no matter what i try it just wont take. The device shows up when in discoverable mode but keeps giving an error when it trys to negotite passkeys.

When trying to sync up the device with passkeys disabled, the computer says "success", but the mouse never comes out of discoverable mode.

I finally gave up and inserted the microsoft dongle and the mouse works fine. Push the two buttons, and it syncs up right away..

I REALLLLYYYY want to find a way to get the mouse to sync up w/ apple's bluetooth, but from what i have been reading on the web, microsoft bluetooth mice are pretty much compliant to microsoft's version of the bluetooth stack.

Go microsoft for taking another standard and turning it proprietary!!

I have 14 days left before i need to return this baby. If i am unable to get it to sync up w/ the apple internal blueooth, the sucker is going back to the store.

I hope someone out there has some tricks to share, b/c its a shame if we are unable to use this device w/ our macs.

-N

Did you guys ever get it to run? I'm interested in purchasing this mouse too. I can understand the advanced features like the media controls not working in OS X, but you'd think it could still recognize and function like a basic mouse.

I wanted the same mouse, but the mouse was ultimately designed to be used with vista. This mouse not meant for Mac os. I was looking for some logitech gaming mice, when I called them they said not compatible with macs as well. Go figure, they are still in the dark ages.

How did you get all the buttons to work? I have only gotten the main ones to work. Have not had a chance to figure it out yet (especially since i may send it back).

I may need to re-install the microsoft drivers..

-N

Bluetooth is a set specification for a wireless device.. You're telling me that no one makes an app that allows this mouse to communicate properly with the onboard bluetooth on mac's? !!! This just makes me so mad.. I just bought this from a guy thinking it was the coolest thing on earth and now you're telling me that It won't work!!! (didn't have the dongle when I purchased it)!

******.

Yes bluetooth is a "specification" but the implementation of that specification is up to a vendor. Microsoft's bluetooth stack is notorious for being proprietary. Just do a google search for microsoft bluetooth stack. I am sure this mouse takes adantage of "extensions" that microsoft put in, and thus wont work.

If you pay attention real close to the setup of the bluetooth device, you will notice that apple's bluetooth hardware picks up the Hardware Identifier, but you are unable to have that register with the HID Mouse in the bluetooth stack.

Many vendors (dell included), have problems with their bluetooth hardware running the windows XP SP2 bluetooth stack.

As for the dongle, are u sure you purchased the presenter 8000, it comes w/ a fancy plastic case that rotates in the plastic packaging it comes in. Inside the clear plastic case will be the mouse and MS bluetooth dongle. If you didnt get one, return it and check the packaging for one that includes one.

-N

It took a few tries, but the bluetooth on my Macbook Pro has paired up with the mouse

Care to share some of the details of how you got it to work?

sorry I do not have a specific sequence. I ran the Bluetooth Setup Assistant a couple of time. First attempt, it could not find the device, I quit and ran the assistant another couple of times choosing any device. Finally is saw the 8000, then when it tried to pair it up, that failed a bunch of times. Note I was mucking with the on/off and Bluetooth buttons on the bottom of the mouse thru this whole process.

Finally at the failure to pair up screen, I pressed the return key rapidly, returned to playing hockey with my boys and when I came back in, the pairing was successful.

What a PC experience.

Note in bluetooth mode, you only get the left, right, and scroll options. I am hoping that www.usboverdrive.com, will release the bluetooth version soon.

After much research, i found the trick to getting this mouse to work with my mac. Here is the solution, taken from the macrumors forums..

I followed the instructions exactly as shown below, except i did not have the MS Tools installed.. Works like a charm....

<http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=249841&page=2>
Originally Posted by viper0440 View Post
I just purchased the Microsoft Mouse 8000 and after working with it for a long time have finally figured out the following procedure to successfully "connect" the mouse with OS X. I believe this is the best mouse available right now for any bluetooth notebook, Mac or PC.

The steps below have been verified to connect my Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 8000 on my MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 2.33 with Mac OS X 10.4.8, updates as of 1/1/2007.

1. Turn on the mouse
2. Press or hold down connect button until light flashes alternating red and green
3. Click Bluetooth tray icon; Browse Device...
4. If the device "Mouse" is not in the list click search, then click browse.
5. Next to search button it will say "Device does not have the necessary services."
6. Click Cancel; Quit Bluetooth File Exchange
7. Open System Preferences; Bluetooth; Devices section
8. Settings section; Click the device ID in the list of your mouse, Add to Favorites
9. Turn Bluetooth Off, Turn Bluetooth On
10. Light should stop blinking and the device will show up with status "Connected: Yes" in bluetooth device list.

Notes:
- The device name comes through as (null) and instead uses the device address for the name but this does not appear to effect functionality. Also OS X does not say that the device is "paired", only "connected" but it this doesn't seem to matter as it connects when available.
- When doing this I also had the Microsoft IntelliPoint 6.1 software installed, I'm not sure if it's necessary. In the Microsoft Mouse preference pane, About Microsoft Mouse, Mouse Info it states "No Microsoft mouse devices found".
- The mouse seems to be more jittery in OS X than it is in windows, possibly because the advanced features of the windows software like battery performance adjustment are not available.
- The left, right and pause/play buttons on the bottom appear to not work.
- The back and forward buttons can be programmed through the Dashboard & Expose preference pane as mouse button 4 and 5.
- It might be possible to use a mighty mouse or the following article to further configure buttons 4 and 5:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.p...50806042924384
- I also have the mouse installed and working with a Boot Camp partition on the same system. After it is initially setup in both OS'es it is not necessary to re-pair the mouse when switching between OS X and Windows.

Macbook Pro 15" Core2 2.33 Mac OS X (10.4.8)