barneyman

Q: My recent calls appearing on another iPhone!?

Hi,

 

Hopefully you can help.

 

I use my phone for business and we have noticed in the last few days that all of the calls I make and receive are appearing in my wife's iPhone recent call history?

 

I have hunted high and low in settings on both phones but with no joy.

 

It is only affecting calls i make, not the other way round? so i am not seeing calls my wife makes on her phone in my recent call history?

 

It is also not affecting text messages...


We are both using the same iCloud account but the inconsistencies above suggest its something more involved (or very simple!)

 

The slightly odd thing is that it only seems to do it when my phone is at home, i went out this afternoon and the calls made/received have not appeared on her history. so maybe its a wifi thing?...but...

 

I also phoned vodafone when i got home to see if they could help (they couldn't!) and that short dial number is also not appearing on her history?

iPhone 5s, iOS 8.3

Posted on May 22, 2015 10:46 AM

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  • by Philip Zurcher,

    Philip Zurcher Philip Zurcher Sep 3, 2016 9:04 PM in response to Philip Zurcher
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    Sep 3, 2016 9:04 PM in response to Philip Zurcher

    This also doesn't explain why only two phones are affected and not all the iphones. Remember there are five on the same Apple ID. So to just put it on me that the manufacturer is not at fault is just short sighted. Why than does this effect only two phones and not all the phones. They all had identical settings before and the still do today except I turned off Apple ID for iMessage and Facetime on all the phones today. Yet the same two phones share phone call logs still.

  • by LACAllen,

    LACAllen LACAllen Sep 3, 2016 9:15 PM in response to Philip Zurcher
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    Sep 3, 2016 9:15 PM in response to Philip Zurcher

    Apple IDs have become similar to phone numbers. They are now used to identify a device mapped to both an Apple ID (email address) and a phone number. These 2 endpoints are mapped to each other in a database. When a message is sent to find one entity, it can also find the other. If two users have knowingly made their devices the same entity, this is what will happen.

     

    We are back to the the days of telephone party lines. Multiple users sharing a single communication line.

     

    Apple IDs have evolved, not become broken.

     

    This has nothing to do with Koolaid. In fact, I don't even use an iPhone day to day. I am sticking up for logic and common sense.

     

    "Doctor, doctor... it hurts when I do this..."

    "Then don't do that"

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 4, 2016 5:18 AM in response to Philip Zurcher
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    Sep 4, 2016 5:18 AM in response to Philip Zurcher

    The only thing that changed is that you decided that you knew better than Apple, and clearly you don't. Just do it as Apple recommend and your problem will end, Its your choice.

  • by Philip Zurcher,

    Philip Zurcher Philip Zurcher Sep 5, 2016 11:40 AM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 5, 2016 11:40 AM in response to Csound1

    Thanks for all the helpful comments from those that post facts. So all you commentators with so many condescending comments keep them to yourselves and only post helpful comments. Period!

     

    Nobody has offered to explain why only two phones of five have the issues mentioned above, not affecting the three others that have shared one Apple ID since 2008 too. Why did this only start several months ago after working since 2008? Apple has not made it mandatory to set up new Apple ID's. Recommended or not Apple has not sent out notices to Apple ID users about issues with their services. If so please copy and paste here for myself and everyone else that are having issues today with this and other sync issues.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 5, 2016 11:42 AM in response to Philip Zurcher
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    Sep 5, 2016 11:42 AM in response to Philip Zurcher

    If you expect that your commands not to post here will be followed you will be disappointed, this is a public forum and you do not control it, if you need to be in charge you should start your own forum.

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Sep 5, 2016 3:02 PM in response to Philip Zurcher
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    Sep 5, 2016 3:02 PM in response to Philip Zurcher

    You need to provide more information than you have. What model are these 5 phones, and what and iOS versions are they running? You indicate that Settings are identical - are you absolutely certain of that? Have you compared one of the two phone's Settings to one of the remaining phone's Settings to verify that they are set up exactly the same way in every regard, including what Apple ID is signed in where?

     

    GB

  • by LACAllen,

    LACAllen LACAllen Sep 5, 2016 3:47 PM in response to Philip Zurcher
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    Sep 5, 2016 3:47 PM in response to Philip Zurcher

    Apple has not made it mandatory to set up new Apple ID's. Recommended or not Apple has not sent out notices to Apple ID users about issues with their services. If so please copy and paste here for myself and everyone else that are having issues today with this and other sync issues.

     

    See... this amuses me.

     

    You have clearly shown you don't like suggestions as to how to use your Apple ID more effectively. And yet you are wondering why Apple has not "made it mandatory" and "has not sent out notices"

     

    This is about as strongly worded as you will see Apple get. (is 3 examples enough?)

     

    Screen Shot 2016-09-05 at 6.28.17 PM.png

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    and for the lovers of pure legalese...

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    To feign anger, ignorance and disbelief that there may be an issue when sharing an Apple ID is indefensible. You have likely agreed to these terms numerous times. That you haven't read and absorbed them is on you.,

     

    I am willing to bet that the outrage over Apple making it mandatory to have your own Apple ID would far outweigh this thread in size and tone. Besides being impossible to enforce. IMO, Apple et al are doing their best to inform, educate and yet allow.

     

    The results of doing so are on you.

     

    Face it, you see threads here objecting to passwords. "Let me decide on my own security comfort level"

     

    Sometimes you can't protect people from themselves. Observe any "wet paint" sign for a few minutes as proof.

  • by Dennis Poust,

    Dennis Poust Dennis Poust Sep 10, 2016 10:44 AM in response to LACAllen
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    Sep 10, 2016 10:44 AM in response to LACAllen

    What many on this thread don't get is that people have very good reasons for sharing an Apple ID, based upon certain limits of iOS related to the ability to easily share content. If you're not married, it is probably not a big deal to you. Even if you are, it may not be. But my wife and I both want access to our entire 90 GB Photos library, so we must share an ID for that to be so. Likewise, we both want full access to our 100 GB iTunes music library, which iTunes Match allows us to do, but only if we share a single Apple ID. There is no way to designate multiple Apple IDs to share a single Photos or iTunes library. We also have our own personal Apple IDs for things like Notes, Messages, contacts, calendars and FaceTime but the primary ID has to be shared because Apple developers don't seem to think like married people. We don't just want to pick and choose select photos to share once in a while. We want full access to all photos, all the time without having to take actions to move them into a shared album. We don't want to have to pay twice for iTunes Match or additional iCloud storage either. So it would be really helpful if people stop just repeating, "Don't share an Apple ID." Because that is not an option for some people and it doesn't solve the problem people are having with call logs showing up on multiple phones which, incidentally, is a relatively recent phenomenon. Dismissiveness does not help. A failure to recognize that people have needs that you do not share hinders the ability to be helpful. People on this thread have already made an intelligent decision that sharing an Apple ID is the best option for them to share the features they want to share. If you can help them with their questions with an understanding of that reality, great. If not, just repeating, "Don't share an Apple ID" is a waste of everyone's time.

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Sep 10, 2016 10:54 AM in response to Dennis Poust
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    Sep 10, 2016 10:54 AM in response to Dennis Poust

    Dennis Poust wrote:

     

    What many on this thread don't get is that people have very good reasons for sharing an Apple ID,

    I'm sure they do. And it changes nothing. I may have good reasons for cheating on my income tax but the IRS is still going to be cranky about it. The bottom line is, Apple IDs are not designed to be shared. No matter how much you might want them to work a certain way, Apple hasn't set them up to work that way. If you continue to try to use them in a way they were not designed to work (and you can, unlike the IRS, Apple won't try to stop you), you will have problems. There is nothing you or anyone else on these forums can do to change that.

     

    Submit your feedback to Apple and, meanwhile, learn how Family Sharing works. You may find it solves some of your issues.

  • by LACAllen,

    LACAllen LACAllen Sep 10, 2016 4:55 PM in response to Dennis Poust
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    Sep 10, 2016 4:55 PM in response to Dennis Poust

    Dismissiveness does not help.

     

    Right back at ya.

     

    People on this thread have already made an intelligent decision that sharing an Apple ID is the best option for them to share the features they want to share

     

    As is their right. Which has been acknowledged throughout this thread ad nauseum.

     

    Shouldn't intelligent people should also accept the consequences of their actions? By sharing an Apple ID, you are presenting yourself, from a communication perspective, as one entity. In POTS terms, a party line.

     

    You come here looking for solutions, but reject them when given.

     

    iTunes Match is $25 a year. iCloud storage is a buck a month. You want Apple to engineer a privacy solution to save you those costs? Perhaps send me your address and I'll gift you the $37 for your first year.

     

    Vent here >>> http://www.apple.com/feedback/

     

     

    If not, just repeating, "Don't share an Apple ID" is a waste of everyone's time.

     

    as is repeating this...

     

    people have very good reasons for sharing an Apple ID

  • by RexRox,

    RexRox RexRox Sep 15, 2016 10:31 PM in response to KiltedTim
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    Sep 15, 2016 10:31 PM in response to KiltedTim

    Really?

    Then how come Apple advises you to do so?
    "Use the same Apple ID for every computer or device on your Home Sharing network."

    Use Home Sharing to share iTunes content with other devices - Apple Support

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Sep 15, 2016 11:32 PM in response to RexRox
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    Sep 15, 2016 11:32 PM in response to RexRox

    That is for signing in to the iTunes & App Store. That way, everyone has access to the iTunes and App Libraries. Having multiple people using on Apple ID for iTunes & App Store is not a problem until someone wants to go to college, or get a divorce, and then all of the purchases are under the one Apple ID that you used for this process. So, you need to consider whether that is a problem for you or not.

     

    It is the Apple ID you use to sign into iCloud that should always be unique for each individual user. If you have 5 iPhones that all are signed into your iCloud account, that is fine. But you don't want your iCloud account singed in to your nephew's device, or you would get his texts, phone calls, or phone call logs, Contacts, Calendars, Photos, Messages, basically, anything that sync's to iCloud would be shared.

     

    Best of luck,

     

    GB

  • by RexRox,

    RexRox RexRox Sep 16, 2016 12:26 AM in response to gail from maine
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    Sep 16, 2016 12:26 AM in response to gail from maine

    Hi Gail,

     

    "...basically, anything that sync's to iCloud would be shared."
    This is actually the key point. Our devices are explicitly set to NOT share this information.
    Of our 3 x iPhones and 1 x iPad the sharing is only happening between two phones - an iPhone 5s and iPhone 6s.
    As has been said by many, many posters with this problem - if it was 'expected behaviour' then it would be happening across all devices.

    Clearly it is not.

    I should also add that we shared an ID for years without any of these problems and then I think it was iOS9 when the problems all started.
    I'm no tech-guru but seems to be that the roll-out of HandOff & Continuity is when this can all be tracked back to. There seems to be some sort of bug impacting a limited number of users.
    Fact is people do share an ID for a whole host of reasons, in my discussions with Apple techs they have clearly said that's no problem, but there is something going wrong somewhere for some folks.
    If there was another solution for sharing all of our Calendars & Contacts I'd be using it but Apple haven't come up with an adequate alternative yet.

  • by cdavis179,

    cdavis179 cdavis179 Sep 16, 2016 2:24 AM in response to barneyman
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    Sep 16, 2016 2:24 AM in response to barneyman

    I share between multiple iPhones... Its odd.. and probably shouldn't happen.. especially since you can pretty much pick what you want to share between devices...

     

    In any case.. turn off icloud drive on at least one phone..

     

    for all the people saying "icloud accounts are not meant to be shared" are dumb.. they are not helpful... and yes.. there are many reasons why people need to use the same icloud account on different phones...

  • by RexRox,

    RexRox RexRox Sep 16, 2016 5:04 AM in response to cdavis179
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    Sep 16, 2016 5:04 AM in response to cdavis179

    Thanks cdavis179, that's the thing... I have iCloud Drive turned off on all devices yet it's still happening.

    Makes zero sense & Apple's 2nd tier support have said the same.

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