Q: My recent calls appearing on another iPhone!?

GovtLawyer wrote:

 

 

I've been led to believe that Apple peruses these forums.  I have my doubts.  I'm open to any suggestions.

I don't know who led you to believe that, but Apple does not read the forums. This is a user-to-user site. Some Apple employees may randomly read messages, but there is no individual or group assigned to read posted messages, and anyone who does read has no authority. Even moderation is invoked by other users; anyone with over 150 points will have a button to report a post for review. The moderation team will review the post and decide if it requires any mod action. But even then the "hosts" work full time at the moderation task, and do not get involved in message content other than to keep the peace.

You obviously are not in control or have ever controlled a large family's doings using minimal time. It is very easy to have ONE centralized calendar that all SIX of us can edit. If we did what you say and use Family Sharing, there would be SIX different calendars and EACH would have to be shared with FIVE OTHER people...do the factoring! And calculate the time it takes (and the fact that it probably won't get done with teenagers involved)!  I'm no idiot.  You are. 

Any questions you have relating to time-saving ideas, feel free to ask.  I'm sure I'll have a faster/easier way...

Using Family Sharing you can have ONE calendar that everyone can access. My family does it. It took about 1 minute to set up, after I created separate iCloud accounts for each family member. Even better, you can have calendars that are shared, as well as private calendars that are not shared.

There is no need to have 6 different calendars that all have to be shared with everyone. You only need to share ONE calendar with everyone in the family. That doesn't even require family sharing. There you go. Done. Here's a time saving tip for you, educate yourself. Learn to actually USE the tools at your disposal.

Next time you have a "suggestion", maybe you should stop and make sure you're not making a fool of yourself before spouting off.

Then I stand corrected.  When Family Sharing was first available and I inquired, you could not have all six of us have our own calendars/colors on ONE calendar.  Currently, each of us have our own color (which is a "calendar") within the one calendar.  Per the genius, you could not do this with Family Sharing.  Nor could you share contacts if one child added a contact...it would NOT automatically be added to our one, shared contacts database.  And, wasn't there a stipulation on the music purchased using Family Sharing?  So, Family Sharing was of no use to me.  It has been a while since it has been available, so I guess things have changed...but, why fix things that aren't broken is my theory...until now.  I'm sorry.

Stand corrected? yes you do.

Wow...was that necessary!? Did it add value? No wonder there's so much riff raff in this world. Don't you have bigger mountains to climb?

I'd like to hear a reply from KiltedTim, not you.

Peace.

You don't get to choose unfortunately, but KT can speak for himself.

I still agree with you though.

Don't share an iCloud account. They are not intended to be shared.

Understanding that the above is the general consensus, a while back my wife and I got separate accounts for our iPhones. We found the workload to be much greater with separate accounts. We have now gone back to sharing accounts.  We have no difficulties, problems, or issues, and our iPhone life is much simpler by sharing an account.

Having said this, we ONLY use the cloud for Contacts and nothing else.  Perhaps that's why some have troubles, and we are not.

Ziatron wrote:

 

Don't share an iCloud account. They are not intended to be shared.

 

Understanding that the above is the general consensus

It is not the "general consensus". It is the documented way iCloud is supposed to be used. It's not just Apple's "opinion" of how it was designed to function.

I have been having the same issue. This is so ridiculous apple needs to get their **** together. It should not be this challenging to have multiple phones within a family, or work environment! I work in data processing, managing data streams and accounts for some of the largest companies in the US and have very strict security compliance protocols. I can not have my call lists being sync with my families phones, it could be considered a security breach and punishable by contract termination!

Additionally my contacts and my wifes contacts were once synced 4 years ago, before we realized all of our contacts would be shared. When we went to un-sync the contacts we found out that by deselecting the sync contacts button all phone contacts would be deleted! Meaning apple made no provisions to mark contacts as native to the iphone or part of the icloud contact list. This may not be as big of a deal today with family members able to create their own apple id's but before that was possible the only way to have contacts saved and stored was to share all contacts! COME ON APPLE.

The ONLY thing apple is offering right now that google doesn't is a safer app store. Between this, and the limitations with downloaded content (not being able to create an mp3 CD for downloaded music unless its "Itunes Plus." So you have to create an audio CD, rip the music back to your computer, add the titles and artists, then convert to MP3. I would gladly pay an additional subscription or a premium charge if I could have my itunes enabled for mp3 conversion. There is nothing protecting the artist (as you can get the file from apples encrypted file to to mp3, it just makes it annoying for the consumer, who PURCHASED the music). Even once I purchased music its apparently not really mine.

IT IS BROKEN!!!

1. When I got my iphone and when the rest of the family on my plan got their iphones there wasn't an option for multiple apple ID's. The only option was to share the same apple ID.

We would have to go back and change the way all of our phones are set up, in order to create a work around to a problem that should not exist!

2. My personal call data should not be anywhere other than on MY PHONE! I work in data security and have very strict security compliance protocols, the fact that my call history with clients personal cell numbers, is being distributed through the cloud is an issue!! Even if I change the apple ID's of my family members (who I'm not worried about) the fact that someone could hack my apple ID and have access to my call logs IS A PROBLEM. Apple needs to provide a way to opt out of all "cloud" sharing for call lists, recent calls, and other messaging formats!

hsophos wrote:

 

 

The ONLY thing apple is offering right now that google doesn't is a safer app store. Between this, and the limitations with downloaded content (not being able to create an mp3 CD for downloaded music unless its "Itunes Plus." So you have to create an audio CD, rip the music back to your computer, add the titles and artists, then convert to MP3. I would gladly pay an additional subscription or a premium charge if I could have my itunes enabled for mp3 conversion. There is nothing protecting the artist (as you can get the file from apples encrypted file to to mp3, it just makes it annoying for the consumer, who PURCHASED the music). Even once I purchased music its apparently not really mine.

Music from the iTunes Store hasn't had DRM since March 2009. You haven't had to burn the music to an audio CD to convert them to mp3s since then.

If you still have some DRM'd tracks, see this article:

http://lifehacker.com/delete-old-drm-copies-of-itunes-music-and-download-drm-154 6445214

And no, you don't own the music. You own a license to use it. That's always been true, even when you bought an LP, an 8-Track, a cassette, or a piece of sheet music.

It is not "broken". Sharing an ID is a direct contradiction of Apple's documentation. I can't believe you work in an IT related field and can't comprehend that. STOP SHARING AN ACCOUNT.

Apple doesn't need to do squat. They have already provided a way to keep this from happening. DON'T SHARE AN ID. How hard is that to understand? Just because you did it in the past and didn't have a problem, does NOT mean that continuing to do so will not cause issues.

hsophos wrote:

 

I have been having the same issue. This is so ridiculous apple needs to get their **** together. It should not be this challenging to have multiple phones within a family, or work environment! I work in data processing, managing data streams and accounts for some of the largest companies in the US and have very strict security compliance protocols. I can not have my call lists being sync with my families phones, it could be considered a security breach and punishable by contract termination!

 

Additionally my contacts and my wifes contacts were once synced 4 years ago, before we realized all of our contacts would be shared. When we went to un-sync the contacts we found out that by deselecting the sync contacts button all phone contacts would be deleted! Meaning apple made no provisions to mark contacts as native to the iphone or part of the icloud contact list. This may not be as big of a deal today with family members able to create their own apple id's but before that was possible the only way to have contacts saved and stored was to share all contacts! COME ON APPLE.

Misunderstanding how it works?

Your Contacts are not deleted, they just aren't visible while you are signed out (ie. Not accessible to devices that are not signed in to your account) such basic misunderstanding of how the system works makes it hard to place any credence in what you post.