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Feb 6, 2016 10:31 AM in response to stuffdogggby Csound1,stuffdoggg wrote:
yes I meant 5 Users, If you have 6 or more users familyshare won't accommodate as far as I know.
Incorrect, you can have 6 members on Family Share
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Mar 28, 2016 8:21 AM in response to Csound1by dynesomite,I hate to beat a dead horse and drag on this conversation, but...
I have a family of 5 and we all share a icloud account (WAIT before telling me to use Family share). When i call child A and they don't answer, all 3 get the a "missed call from Mommy" alert. So they each think there is an emergency & call me back...Or a friend of myself & husband calls him and he misses the call, I also get the missed call alert, so I assume they are calling me...You get the point.
I appreciate the family share thing BUT,
1) we have over 40k+ songs in music and 100s of playlists, much of which we have uploaded to our icloud account - with family share ONLY THE MAIN PERSON CAN SEE THAT MUSIC & PLAY LISTS (I know you can share playlists, but seriously). We ALL listen to this music and have group music stuff, so the access is needed...
2) Both parents need to see ALL THE CALENDARS at the same time to make sure our kids are where they need to be. And kids need to see parent's calendar so they don't promise to be somewhere when they don;t have a parent available to drive them
3) there are times when we will monitor our children's texting by getting their texts sent to our computers (Big Brother ish? yes, but I do pay the bill!)
4) At times, i cannot reach a child, so I will text their friend, which ARE IN THE SHARED CONTACTS across phones. With family share, I lose access to their contacts.
It is my understanding (and maybe I am wrong) that the 4 issues above are not available with Family sharing. Since I pay for their phones, and am a caring (yet, rightfully so in this crazy day & age, stalking) parent, I do not want them on their own accounts...yet I also do not need them to freak out when they get 10 of my work related missed calls while they are in school....
So, is my case one that Family sharing should work? nope. so then why can't apple just have an option to TURN OFF missed call sharing (and yes, I have tried almost ALL options in the past 9 pages of replies)...I don't mind a shared call log, but the missed call alert is not needed - i can turn off shared texting, I don't see why you can't turn off shared calling.
Thank you.
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Mar 28, 2016 8:31 AM in response to dynesomiteby Meg St._Clair,dynesomite wrote:
(and yes, I have tried almost ALL options in the past 9 pages of replies)
That begs the question: which ones didn't you try? The one that people seem to have the most success with is disabling iCloud drive. Did you try that one?
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Mar 28, 2016 8:33 AM in response to dynesomiteby Philly_Phan,Family sharing will solve your problem. Perhaps you should investigate and learn how it really works instead of making wild assumptions.
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Mar 30, 2016 11:34 AM in response to Philly_Phanby dynesomite,I appreciate your time to be snarky to me. I have tried family sharing multiple times and if you can show me where I am wrong (not assumptions but actually tried using), the I apologize. Otherwise, your reply was not necessary:
1) cannot share uploaded music, only purchased music. We've had itunes since it started and have uploaded and integrated Amazon purchases over 10 years and have A LOT of music not available in Apple Music that we want to share
2) there is one family calendar to share - my children have cloud calendars from school to show their homework and sporting events which can be sent to 1 device - I need to see these, not 1 family calendar. Each child keeps their own calendar and I need to see this info too. A family calendar doesn't cut it.
3) I did not see how I can allow their texting to go to my computer imessage when they are on their own account
4) in Family share, newly added contacts are not shared across accounts
Please correct me if I am wrong about these
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Apr 8, 2016 11:48 AM in response to Jbbttusmuby jasontoheal,Come on Apple. Fix this problem already. Clearly there are so many use cases as to why this should not be happening. Apple never intended on people creating multiple Icloud accounts when they have multiple phones.
and the family sharing thing is useless when the main thing people want to share is photos, and multilpe users in the home want their pics to automatically go to the one iCloud account on the household mac.
The facts are simple... everyone's devices were configured correctly and they behaved correctly. Then they started doing something wrong. Apple never changed their rules for setting up a device. Apple never said people shouldn't share an iCloud account. Apple created an OPTIONAL feature called family sharing for people who DONT WANT to share certain things across devices.
Apple created Handoff etc so your iPad would ring when your phone would ring. That's great. so you can see your missed calls on your watch and iPad and Mac. But why your missed calls would appear on another PHONE is a flaw. That PHONE never rang at the same time. Clearly this is a design flaw. Please stop defending Apple as if they're your infallible Pope. The fact is Continuity/Handoff is still buggy (in plenty more ways than just this too) and this bug hasn't been fixed yet.
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Apr 8, 2016 11:45 AM in response to jasontohealby KiltedTim,Sorry. You're the one who doesn't know what they're talking about.
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Apr 12, 2016 3:53 AM in response to Jbbttusmuby blokefromlondon,Surprised by the amount of unhelpful and stubborn "that's not our policy" type response here towards many people that have encountered the same issue. The repetition of you need to use "family sharing" is not a good fix for missed calls appearing on phones that did not miss the call. As a "feature" seeing missed calls elsewhere can be helpful, but the implementation is flawed in that there is no choice provided if you want it or not. A simple toggle in the settings would fix it all. It can be very confusing to see these messages.
Please, stop saying Family Sharing is the answer. It might fix the issue in some circumstances, but it is overkill fo this use case and still not a fix for all. How does it solve my problem? Very simply, I have 2 phones. I own them both. I use them both. I personally DO NOT want to see missed calls from one phone disturbing me on the other phone. It rarely makes sense. I intentionally want to keep them as identical as possible from an apps and content perspective, and as they are both owned by me I do NOT want to create an additional icloud account owned both owned by me.
Also, switching off other features which may be useful such as icloud drive, or handoff - no, those are workarounds that remove other functionality.
I'm not the only one - I suspect there may be a few more people using their phones like me - in fact there are a few here with the same issue!
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Apr 12, 2016 5:44 AM in response to blokefromlondonby Csound1,Do it your way then, I wont tell you how to stop it (as you don't want me to)
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Apr 12, 2016 5:40 AM in response to blokefromlondonby Meg St._Clair,blokefromlondon wrote:
Surprised by the amount of unhelpful and stubborn "that's not our policy" type response here towards many people that have encountered the same issue. The repetition of you need to use "family sharing" is not a good fix for missed calls appearing on phones that did not miss the call. As a "feature" seeing missed calls elsewhere can be helpful, but the implementation is flawed in that there is no choice provided if you want it or not. A simple toggle in the settings would fix it all. It can be very confusing to see these messages.
Please, stop saying Family Sharing is the answer. It might fix the issue in some circumstances, but it is overkill fo this use case and still not a fix for all. How does it solve my problem? Very simply, I have 2 phones. I own them both. I use them both. I personally DO NOT want to see missed calls from one phone disturbing me on the other phone. It rarely makes sense. I intentionally want to keep them as identical as possible from an apps and content perspective, and as they are both owned by me I do NOT want to create an additional icloud account owned both owned by me.
Also, switching off other features which may be useful such as icloud drive, or handoff - no, those are workarounds that remove other functionality.
What, else, exactly, do you expect us to tell you? This is the way Apple has it set up. We can't change that. The only suggestions we can offer are what you call "workarounds". Sorry, but no one here can magically fix this issue for you. Only Apple can and they are not involved in this discussion.
If you want to complain, complain to Apple. Tell them what you want:
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Apr 12, 2016 5:48 AM in response to blokefromlondonby Lawrence Finch,blokefromlondon wrote:
Surprised by the amount of unhelpful and stubborn "that's not our policy" type response here towards many people that have encountered the same issue. The repetition of you need to use "family sharing" is not a good fix for missed calls appearing on phones that did not miss the call. As a "feature" seeing missed calls elsewhere can be helpful, but the implementation is flawed in that there is no choice provided if you want it or not. A simple toggle in the settings would fix it all. It can be very confusing to see these messages.
Please, stop saying Family Sharing is the answer. It might fix the issue in some circumstances, but it is overkill fo this use case and still not a fix for all. How does it solve my problem? Very simply, I have 2 phones. I own them both. I use them both. I personally DO NOT want to see missed calls from one phone disturbing me on the other phone. It rarely makes sense. I intentionally want to keep them as identical as possible from an apps and content perspective, and as they are both owned by me I do NOT want to create an additional icloud account owned both owned by me.
Also, switching off other features which may be useful such as icloud drive, or handoff - no, those are workarounds that remove other functionality.
I'm not the only one - I suspect there may be a few more people using their phones like me - in fact there are a few here with the same issue!
Like you, I have 5 devices that I use - 2 Macs, 2 iPads and an iPhone. I share an Apple ID on all of them because I am the only user. This is a great convenience for sharing contacts, calendars, notes, Safari bookmarks, Keychain, Find my iPhone, app data through iCloud Drive, music, apps, photos, messages and email. I see my recent contacts across devices also. Since they are all mine I find this a convenience, it certainly doesn't bother me, and I frequently take advantage of it, so I can return a missed call to my phone from my Mac. My wife has her own Apple ID. We share apps, music, calendars through Family Sharing. She doesn't see my calls, and I don't see hers.
That's the way it's designed to work. No one in this user-to-user support forum can change the way it works.
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Apr 12, 2016 6:52 AM in response to blokefromlondonby Philly_Phan,blokefromlondon wrote:
Very simply, I have 2 phones. I own them both. I use them both. I personally DO NOT want to see missed calls from one phone disturbing me on the other phone.
As has been explained by others, Apple considers you to be one individual. In your case, it makes sense to create two separate Apple IDs, one for John Business Doe and one for John Personal Doe. You will "fool" the Apple system into thinking that you are two persons and missed calls from one phone will not appear on the other phone.
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