Apple Watch causing wrist/hand numbness and tingling

You have not had carpal tunnel syndrome but you know the symptoms? So is the magnetism from the Watch causing you to have carpal tunnel syndrome? You've worn the watch, gotten the symptoms, gone to your doctor and he has done tests to show it is that? Or some other inflammation? What does show up when you have the issue?

It isn't going to be magnetism (not enough magnetism in the watch to cause anything and it is not going to be the non-ionizing radiation that the transmitters in the Watch puts out. So what does this leave? Nothing. Sounds to be like it sits on the wrong spot where you wear it and presses on a nerve.

Hänsel wrote:

As such, there is no doubt: the cause is the Watch and probably a combination of its electronic activity and wireless signals, constantly happening while in direct contact with my skin. As I have seen enough examples of other people experiencing the same discomfort on the Apple forums and elsewhere, it seems to me that 1) either there is a certain number of Watches, all with a similar issue which causes some kind of 'leaking' of too much harmful electromagnetic radiation or simply electric current of some kind or 2) I just happen to be one of a fair number of people who are highly sensitive to electronic activity this close to their skin.

Yes, there's actually a lot of doubt. Just because you think that's what's causing the problem doesn't mean it is. The watch is not capable of generating any electromagnetic frequencies that are harmful to humans.

When I am on the phone with someone for a long while and thus hold my phone near my cheek for said long while, my skin starts turning slightly red and warm. This too strikes me as a connection between its wireless signals and distance to skin.

But I admit that this and what I experience with the Watch might be completely unrelated. This doesn’t make my point any less important to make, as the sensation I had felt truly bad and was the same feeling you get when in touch with light electronic currents. The relation between putting it on and experiencing the numbing was clear. It might not have been the wireless signals, that is just what I fear. It might just as well simply be the metal transferring some unwanted current to my skin. But when I said there is no doubt, I did not refer to the wireless signals, but to the fact that the Watch is, sadly for me and some other people, the cause.

Please allow those who have this tingling/numbing to voice their worries and refrain from overly defending the Watch (which I.d otherwise really love to keep!) just because you’re part of the (lucky) majority who experience no such harm, as it will probably prevent Apple from taking this matter seriously.

Well I can bet if you hold any mobile you can feel the radiation too, you probably have not noticed it.

Hold your phone and get someone to text you and you will feel the tingling sensation start in you hand before you even received the text, and yes not everyone one can feel it.

Lwales wrote:

Well I can bet if you hold any mobile you can feel the radiation too, you probably have not noticed it.

Hold your phone and get someone to text you and you will feel the tingling sensation start in you hand before you even received the text, and yes not everyone one can feel it.

That's what we call confirmation bias. The only way to really test if you can feel it would be if you were blindfolded and the phone had sound and vibration turned off. Then, have a friend do a series of trials. Half the time they do send you a text, half the time, they only pretend to. Can you tell the difference a statistically significant number of times?

I'll give you a hint. These studies have already been done and people can't tell. Here's some examples:

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.543.1328&rep=rep1&type= pdf

IEI-EMF provocation case studies: A novel approach to testing sensitive individuals. - PubMed - NCBI

Even though I’ve not looked but I’m sure you can find proof for and against, I’m only going by experience

Can I add this isn’t a topic wheather phones are good or bad for you, this is about if it’s possible for a person to be affected by any kind of tech radiation, and yes it can.

You do understand why that is don’t you?

The only way I would say to anyone who suffers with the issues while wearing the Apple Watch is to still wear it but put it into flight mode for a few days and report back to us.

Why is that?

No, that is still not a scientific test. And are you going to include the GPS + Cellular Watch? It didn't exist when this thread started. So all the Watch used was non-ionizing radiation from WiFi and Bluetooth. There have been many studies done on the effect of this, Idris was nice enough to give you one. None of them have found any biological impact. None.

Anything in that case study that showed any possibility that it could be true like the bag test, they just put it down to it Being a lucky guess, and anything else non conclusive so it never happened due to to them not being able to back it up ,and why would they?

But as I thought when you read further look who it was funded by 😳

The case study was purely subjective before it even started as they would never of got the funding to justify there jobs.

Though your all sitting there thinking how stupid I am, but I use to sit there thinking the same about others because I can read stuff on the net and it must be true.

I didnt come here to start saying who is right and who is wrong but I came as I would like to purchase an iwatch and my own personal reasons I had my own concerns.

Are you familiar with that group? Do you have any idea of their background? Do you really think mobile telecommunications companies (they aren't one) wouldn't be interested in this? Since they helped fund it does that automatically disqualify everything about the study. And how in the world do you come to the conclusion that the whole study is non-conclusive?

It wasn’t the whole study that was none conclusive, but any signs (though little) that people are affected by any kind of signal radiation got dismissed as due to the lack of evidence, therefore it never was and never has been.

This is not why I’m here to argue about case studies, because people can copy and paste what they believe they know.

I came here because I had a concern, and just as anyone else not only here has been shot down when they have a claim or concern because someone says it can’t happen.

Obviously there is a reason why some things are happening, maybe it’s the rubber.

Maybe there Is another reason, but it’s good to descuss these things.

Just for the record, I have purchased and iwatch with celular, as it didn’t workout buying a watch and buying a band that I like and paying almost the same for the better spec watch.

It has a fabric strap but I do not use the cellular features and I have not seen any reaction or experanced any strange tingling so far after a week of use.

Lwales wrote:

Anything in that case study that showed any possibility that it could be true like the bag test, they just put it down to it Being a lucky guess, and anything else non conclusive so it never happened due to to them not being able to back it up ,and why would they?

But as I thought when you read further look who it was funded by

The case study was purely subjective before it even started as they would never of got the funding to justify there jobs.

Though your all sitting there thinking how stupid I am, but I use to sit there thinking the same about others because I can read stuff on the net and it must be true.

I didnt come here to start saying who is right and who is wrong but I came as I would like to purchase an iwatch and my own personal reasons I had my own concerns.

I don't think you're stupid. I think you don't understand how science (or scientific funding) works. And, I think you have fallen prey to some very common, very human logical errors.

Well that settles it, since a guy who worked in Cambridge said it then it absolutely has to be factual. It is a good idea sometimes to look where the funding is coming from. So who is the group who funded this? Did you do any research on them? And not all scientists will do what this mythical expert said, in fact most of them will not. If you don't like this survey (and you obviously had trouble reading it) then look up one of the many others.

Whats the point of explaining when the thing that brought you here doesn’t exist, but hay I was brought here just as others have experienced something that isn’t right, only to be met by people who obviously live on here and obviously know everything about everything

Lwales wrote:

Well it was explained to me about funding for science many years ago by a guy who’s dead now who worked in Cambridge doing test on Animals, lets just say I was shocked.

He then mentioned to always look at who funding each project as this will pretty much determine the direction of the outcome as your basically not going to screw over your funding as you will want them to come back for any future investment.

That is largely false. The number of safe guards in place is astronomical. Other scientist are the biggest ones. They review the papers. They redo the research and see if they get the same results. That's why science works. One paper is not the answer to the question. It's the repetition. The further experiments that build off of it. Is it perfect? No, of course not. If it were, we wouldn't need Retraction Watch. But, it sure beats the alternative: relying solely on anecdotes.

In the U.S., the largest funder of scientific research is the U.S. government.