apple llgs still working but don't know how to convert database

We, a non-profit music organization, have been putting our data base on an applle llgs for the last, oh, about 25+ years.

The program is appleworks.

How do we take the data base and convert that to something else we could use in an updated computer.

We have about 3,600 entries, and we don't want to lose it. This computer is VERY old.

apple llgs, Other OS, Old computer, need help

Posted on Oct 26, 2006 9:59 PM

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Oct 27, 2006 12:12 AM in response to OVDA

Hi OVDA<

Welcome to the discussions and the AppleWorks forum.

It's been a while since I used any of the Apple II versions of AppleWorks.

Your best bet for producing a file transferable to another database program would be to export to a tab delimited text file, or to a comma separated values text file. Either of these plain-vanilla files can be picked up and used by most DB applications, but you will be able to transfer only the data, and will lose the field names and any formatting.

A larger difficulty may be getting the file out of your IIgs and into the other computer.

If your IIgs is able to connect to the internet for email, you should be able to send the file as an attachment, then save it on the new machine. If your IIgs has an ethernet card, you should be able to make a direct connection with a newer machine.

Other than those methods, you'll be looking for some sort of compatible media on which to save the file, carry it to the new machine, then load it from the media. That could turn out to be a challenge, and may require the use of an intermediate machine to move the file from one medium to another.

Regards,
Barry

Oct 27, 2006 1:00 PM in response to Barry

Hello

The apple II gs worked with two kinds of operating systems.
If you where using the late one: GSOS, you where storing datas on 3"5 disks or even on a SCSII drive.

If I remember well, there is at least one person on this forum continuing to run a GS. I hope that this complementary message will bring the problem to its attention 😉

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE vendredi 27 octobre 2006 22:00:49)

Oct 27, 2006 6:23 PM in response to KOENIG Yvan

It's been a long time since even turned on my IIgs & even longer since I opened AppleWorks GS on it. It's no longer recognizing the external hard drive so it's a real pain using floppies, even though I do have 2 3.5" drives. It's been so long since I've had to answer a question on this, I can't find one of my old posts with the rather lengthy explanation. Barry did a very good job, noting that the most difficult thing is to get the files from the IIgs to the "modern" Mac.

Macs using a system prior to OS 8, I believe, can read ProDOS/GS-OS disks. Although there were high density drives available for the IIgs, very few users had them & used double-density 3.5" floppies. None of the USB floppy drives that are the only thing newer Macs can use can read them, only the high density disks. So, the problem is getting from ProDOS formatted double-density floppies to a current Mac. I keep an old PowerBook 1400 to read even Mac-formatted double-density disks. The best sources for finding someone with the ability to copy the files would be a school, probably an elementary school, or an Apple II user group. These user groups do still exist & a Google search might be the best way to find them. The last I heard/read a few years ago, there was a group still active in Tacoma, Washington, Northwest Apple Pickers.

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Oct 29, 2006 4:50 PM in response to Barry

I have the data base on a floppy 3.5, but my computers are pcs. THey don't recognize there is a file on the floppy, saying the disk is not formated.

DO you know what ''intermediate' machine would be the right one to try using iwth this disk?

The coputer we have, is not hooked up to the internet, and we don't think it has that capability.

ANy idea how to produce a tab deliniated text file, or a comma seperated values text file?

Oct 29, 2006 5:49 PM in response to OVDA

Did you read the second paragraph in my post above? You need to use a Mac that is capable of reading a double-density floppy disk & that is running a version of the Mac OS that can read the ProDOS-formatted disks the IIgs uses. That would be a Mac with a built-in floppy drive. No USB floppy drive can read a double-density disk. You would then copy the text files from the floppy to the Mac's hard drive & then copy it to another medium. That could be a high-density floppy, a USB flash drive (if there is a USB port on that Mac), a CD or it could be e-mailed.

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Oct 30, 2006 4:48 PM in response to Peggy

I had an old Performa 5200 that had a drive that would handle the Appleworks files from my old IIGS and IIc. The IIGS ran PRODOS 7 or 8. I think the Performa ran OS 7.5 or 8.0. I converted lots of files to Mac that way back then. It was a perfect bridge to the new technology. There should be machines of that type around somewhere. I think the department I taught in still has one that I bet they don't use much. I know the database will convert if you can find one. You might have to uses Mac OS9 though-I'm not sure

Oct 30, 2006 5:22 PM in response to George Chapman

George,

I'm not sure why you chose to reply to me. Your last two sentences don't make a lot of sense to me. The other things you said have been said earlier in this thread by others, not just me.

I have no problem at all transfering any file from any computer to any other computer, be it my IIgs to one of my many Macs to someone using a Windows PC & back again.

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