tk1ders
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Q: Photos out of chronological order in albums

Since the 'upgrade' to Photos Ver. 1.0 (209.52.0) from iPhoto, my photos appear out of chronological order after import into albums. I haven't found any 'sort' feature and photos cannot be 'dragged' into another location either (I should not have to do that anyway!!).  This happens whether all the photos are from one camera or from both my cameras.  This did not happen in iPhoto and no times/dates were altered from the original. This seems such a basic thing. Anyone know how to fix this?

MacBook Pro (13-inch Mid 2012)

Posted on Jun 28, 2015 7:11 PM

by R C-R,Apple recommended
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tk1ders wrote:

I may be misunderstanding this thread regarding time zones, but I'm confused about that since I thought that if you set the timezone in your camera with your current location, it will automatically adjust to the correct time of day where are standing at that moment. The time of day is most critical to me, since the date is usually always correct.

That's the way it works for me -- basically, the camera adds whatever date & time it is set to at the time the photo is taken, & that doesn't change unless you alter it later on.

I'm not having a problem with that...my problem is I have two different cameras I use at the same time and therefore photos are intermixed depending which camera I use.  When I download them now into 'Photos', some appear out of chronological order.  I could be viewing my photos and they next photo is completely out of place.  This is just aggravating and I cannot even manually reorder them.  I'm wondering if I'm 'missing' something?  Or is it a bug in Photos?

The order they appear in (& what sort options are available) depend on how you view them. For instance, the "All Photos" view is always ordered by when items are added to the library (not when they were taken), & that order can't be changed. The "Photos" view (the first button in the toolbar or first item in the Sidebar if it is visible) is ordered by when the items were taken & organized into a Years, Collections, & Moments hierarchy. The order in those views can't be changed either, nor can the order of "smart" or any of the system-created albums.

 

Regular user-created albums default to being sorted by when taken but unlike the others, you can uncheck the "Keep Sorted by Date" item in the "View" menu & manually drag them into whatever order you want. You have to do that individually for each album -- there is no global setting to turn off the date sort.

 

If you change the date and/or time using the Image > Adjust Date & Time ..." menu item, it won't change the "All Photos" sort order (because that always sorts by date added to the library) or any smart album sort order, but it should change the order in the "Photos" views.

 

It's all very confusing until you work with the app for while, or at least it was for me.

Posted on Jul 1, 2015 5:45 AM

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  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R Jul 4, 2015 4:10 PM in response to léonie
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    Jul 4, 2015 4:10 PM in response to léonie

    léonie wrote:

    When I switch the system time to a different time zone, for example Cancún - Mexico and restart the Mac,  Photos in MacOSX 10.10.4 will show exactly the same times for all my photos , but with a different time zone name: 10:56GMT-5 - the times of all photos have changed be seven hours just by changing the system time.

    But the times have not changed -- both show 10:56. I think the CEST or GMT-5 or whatever just indicates the format of the date & time, not a timezone or anything like it seems to. At least that's what happens on my system -- if I change the region in System Preferences > Language & Region, the only thing that happens in the Photos Info window is the date & time format change, but not the date or time.

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    R C-R R C-R Jul 4, 2015 4:47 PM in response to lnotwell
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    Jul 4, 2015 4:47 PM in response to lnotwell

    lnotwell wrote:

    First, there is no bug in sorting by Photos, at least in v. 1.0.1 (215.65.0). You simply need to make sure that you adjust BOTH the time zone as well as the time.

    From what I can tell, the time zone map & closest city dropdown is just a convenient way to set the date & time by increments corresponding to time zone offsets from the currently indicated one -- note that if you use that, the time (& if necessary the date) update in the "Adjusted" text box to reflect that.

     

    But using the map doesn't actually seem to create a timezone tag -- like I mentioned earlier there is no timezone in the Exif Date-Time tags, & changing the date or time with the map does not add a GPS UTC tag to the file.

  • by bigtexxx,

    bigtexxx bigtexxx Mar 27, 2016 7:41 AM in response to tk1ders
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    Mar 27, 2016 7:41 AM in response to tk1ders

    My problem is similar, but slightly different. When I import photos from my camera--one day, one location, one time zone--they are imported out of sequence. The first photos loaded were shot in the evening, then some from morning, a few more evening, some afternoon, more evening, then the morning ones again. There's no rhyme or reason to it, just an unholy mess of 712 photos out of order. Anybody got any ideas how to resolve this?

     

    FWIW, I think Apple has overthought Photos and is too cute by half with the whole application. iPhoto worked much more simply and intuitively, and I wasn't left trying to decide if I was having a Moment or Burst or a thrombo. If they want to add an improvement, a toggle to "make this app act like iPhoto" would be fine with me.

     

    My rant is concluded.

     

    Any thoughts on my mishmash issue? TYIA.

  • by eileensJC,

    eileensJC eileensJC Aug 5, 2016 8:45 AM in response to tk1ders
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    Aug 5, 2016 8:45 AM in response to tk1ders

    I just figured out why my photos are like this, even though I have the option to sort photos in chronological order.. I use my iPhone to take HDR and non-HDR pictures, and TrueHDR as well. Different pictures work out in different apps and I filter later. The iPhone pictures are grouped correctly chronologically, and the TrueHDR pictures are grouped separately and chronologically. Hence the mixup.

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