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Q: WARNING: iCloud Music Library just destroyed my Mac's iTunes Library

I have a 13000 song library on my iMac. Installed iOS 8.4 on my iPhone this morning and had Apple Music and iCloud Music Library going...Everything was working fine on the device. Got home and installed 10.10.4 and iTunes 12.2 on my iMac. It asked to turn on iCloud Music Library and I accepted. All of the sudden it starts overwriting my album art with completely wrong art (example: Weezer showed art for a Radiohead album) on both my iMac AND my iPhone, screwing up metadata by putting random songs in albums where they didn't belong (there was a Cursive album where the first track was listed as a Foo Fighters song). Even worse, when I'd click to listen to certain songs, it would play the wrong song/artist, like the metadata was hijacked. What in the ****?  I've had this library organized perfectly for the better part of a decade and Apple Music screwed it up in minutes.

 

I was able to restore everything through a Time Machine backup and made sure NOT to turn on iCloud Music Library when I re-opened the .itl file. What a disaster. Hopefully someone from Apple reads this. Thinking it may have something to do with a iTunes Match account I had briefly a few years back. But yikes, can't believe how much damage it did in 5 minutes.

Posted on Jun 30, 2015 7:45 PM

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  • by Tulir,

    Tulir Tulir Jul 9, 2015 12:50 AM in response to Frank Berzau
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    Jul 9, 2015 12:50 AM in response to Frank Berzau

    Frank,

    Sorry but what you are saying is completely wrong. Yes, I want to pay for this service and $15 per month, this is not a problem, BUT that does not mean that I have to rebuild my library from the beginning just because Apple making ****** software and do not have a proper QA !!!

     

    Let the user decide what to do BUT first Apple has to clean their mess!

     

    I spent hours on deleting all music from iCloud and... after 6 hours some of the titles were deleted and most not. Than, the sync from iTunes stop syncing songs all together to my iPhone when I used my backup because - as I think - they were older than the one on the cloud! So after many attempts hours later I managed to sync the songs. Why they were synced this time? I don't know but it worked.

     

    Why Apple could not do a simple button " Delete iCloud Music content". ?????

  • by fabianhartmann,

    fabianhartmann fabianhartmann Jul 9, 2015 12:55 AM in response to Frank Berzau
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    Jul 9, 2015 12:55 AM in response to Frank Berzau

    Frank Berzau wrote:

     

    "Why do you even bother, you just gonna pay for this until you die. And when you do I'm taking over". Valid point.

     

    Valid if you assume that  Music still exists when you die (your daughter dies, your grandchildren die...). Given that Apple has a track record of killing off applications and services I would not bet my money on that. Especially when we talk about the music streaming market which is already as fragmented as it is young, also with lots of stakeholders involved.

    And even if it does exist on Apple's side, any other party involved (e.g. Taylor Swift, a major label, etc.) might quit any time. Take a look at Netflix which just removed lots of movies and series: http://whatsonnetflixnow.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/july-expirations-lets-call-it-ma ssacre.html

     

    Frank Berzau wrote:


    So instead of living in the past, with a bulk load of music from which I won't play 99% any time soon, I can free myself from that burden

     

    If you do not care about stuff you collected over many years - fair enough. I feel the same e.g. about video games. But assuming that applies to everyone else here (i.e. "we're holding it wrong") is rather bold.

     

    Frank Berzau wrote:

     

    I guess  MUSIC wasn't meant to be a storage solution for my historical library.

     

    When I remember the keynote correctly, Cue was all over "Man, we love music so much, and music is so important, and that super-rare bootleg mono recording from 1972 should live in the same place as that fresh new beats". So they practically advertised the service as a storage solution for your historical library, which is completely unique and important and nobody else can rebuild it, neither can the iTunes Store. They were fully aware of that. Destroying your library, modifying your metadata and matching live to studio versions unveils that all that "we care about your music" stuff was a total lie. They completely ****** up and they need to fix it. Fast. And they need to apologize for the damage done, though I doubt that will ever happen.

  • by Stephengraves,

    Stephengraves Stephengraves Jul 9, 2015 4:28 AM in response to Tuff Ghost
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    Jul 9, 2015 4:28 AM in response to Tuff Ghost

    It's gutted my music library too. I had a rip of the bonus CD from Guns N' Roses' Appetite For Democracy live Blu-ray, and it's replaced half of the tracks with the studio versions.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jul 9, 2015 4:34 AM in response to Frank Berzau
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    Jul 9, 2015 4:34 AM in response to Frank Berzau

    Frank Berzau wrote:

     

    Maye "we're holding it wrong"...

    Maybe you are, I certainly do not know what you do.

     

    But I'm not.

  • by neander7hal,

    neander7hal neander7hal Jul 9, 2015 6:36 AM in response to Tuff Ghost
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    Jul 9, 2015 6:36 AM in response to Tuff Ghost

    I wish I'd seen this thread before I updated. Apple Music decided to add disc numbers to all of my tracks and it doesn't recognize deluxe editions, so any deluxe or one-disc album I have is unmatchable.

     

    And oh, how convenient - it's also forgotten how to automatically search for the rest of an album when you locate one song! I was about to be forced into either manually finding 1000 songs or cloud-downloading them.

     

    You done goofed with this one, Apple. I'm undoubtedly canceling my Music subscription unless these issues are fixed. I can't believe Apple would base so much of their service on matching songs to libraries when that has ALWAYS been one of iTunes' biggest weaknesses.

  • by taalvoel,

    taalvoel taalvoel Jul 9, 2015 8:24 AM in response to neander7hal
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    Jul 9, 2015 8:24 AM in response to neander7hal

    I am too a victim of this. I had my iMac with an iTunes Match subscription six months prior to the launch of Apple Music.

     

    Upon updating both my iPhone and iMac to Apple Music, several hundred artists have now been lumped into a "unknown album/unknown artist."


    Their artwork has been removed. These tracks are either iCloud Matched or iCloud uploaded.

     

    I love discovering new artists on Apple Music and have been using iTunes since 2001 and have spent not only a great deal of money at the store, but many hours making sure my music is the way I want it.

     

    I tried the Time Machine .itl fix, but it didn't work.

     

    Also, Apple support has never heard of this issue when I've called for support.

     

    I consider this data corruption. I no longer trust Apple with my data.

  • by trendaway,

    trendaway trendaway Jul 9, 2015 9:23 AM in response to taalvoel
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    Jul 9, 2015 9:23 AM in response to taalvoel

    I think iTunes Music for free for 3 months is a great way to discover new music as their "For You" recommendations are pretty great. I'm happy to stream for now and then pick and choose what I like and get it some other way.

     

    But if things aren't fixed after the trial, then I'll cancel and discover music in the many ways I've used for my entire life up to now! I'm not going to risk my music library being corrupted by some faulty algorithms.

     

    One interesting thing: the music I saved for offline listening on my iPhone is still there after I turned iCloud Music Library off. I don't get it - I've even synced multiple times since then! And also, I left it "on" on my iPad and everything is the same after I turned it off on my iPhone... it's still showing all of the stuff from my iPhone so maybe the iPad will just be a snapshot of what my iPhone music library was for the brief period that iCloud Music was on? Weird stuff.. I expected the Music app on iPad to have updated (i.e., removed everything) when it realized that there was no longer a source to copy.

     

    And just to be clear: my main music library on my iMac was never uploaded to iCloud Music; I wasn't able to turn it on on my iMac (thankfully).

  • by Master CMB,

    Master CMB Master CMB Jul 9, 2015 12:40 PM in response to Tuff Ghost
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    Jul 9, 2015 12:40 PM in response to Tuff Ghost

    Hi,

    Same here as everyone of you: Apple Music destroyed my entire iTunes library. I managed to rebuild it (thanks to Time machine) and tried to edit the corrupted metadata as much as I could.

    But, it is not my only concern now! When I try to close iTunes (12.2) on my iMac (Yosemite10.10.4), it takes quite a long time but, on my MacBook Pro (Yosemite 10.10.4), it never ends and and I need to "force quit" iTunes each time now. Impossible to do otherwise.

    Anyone has an idea (as to why and) how to manage that?

    Does anyone have the same kind of problem?

    It is too bad since Apple Music is a good concept but I can't imagine going on very long this way with it. Anyway, in 3 months, no way I will pay for such a beta version.

     

    Thanks fo any reply.

     

    PS: I wrote back all that to Apple (via Apple feedback) and hope they will correct these major bugs with Apple Music very very soon.

  • by ChzPlz,

    ChzPlz ChzPlz Jul 9, 2015 1:32 PM in response to Tuff Ghost
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    Jul 9, 2015 1:32 PM in response to Tuff Ghost

    Mine is oh so worse. The only thing that is right is the artwork. Artist / Album / Title are all wrong. And what makes it terrible is that I have iTunes set to keep my library organized, so the files all got moved into the wrong folder based on the new wrong metadata.

     

    I would literally have to listen 12000 songs individually and update the metadata for each one to get this back to where it was.

     

    I'm devastated.  Apple - we need a retroactive fix!

  • by santiagoIT,

    santiagoIT santiagoIT Jul 9, 2015 8:43 PM in response to Tuff Ghost
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    Jul 9, 2015 8:43 PM in response to Tuff Ghost

    I have the exact same issue. Playlists DESTROYED........ Oh nooooooooooooooo

  • by MarcLT,

    MarcLT MarcLT Jul 10, 2015 5:54 AM in response to Tuff Ghost
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    Jul 10, 2015 5:54 AM in response to Tuff Ghost

    Same boat as you guys, playlists, albums eg call messed up. To be honest, I'm going to wait and see what happens from Apple before I start messing about as I know I'll make it worse.

     

    The sad thing is that I was really looking forward to having all my music in one place. When Sony had their Music Unlimited app, you could have all this mixed in with your normal music and it worked great...as such I thought this would be the case for Apple. Time for the waiting game I guess.

  • by baguwka,

    baguwka baguwka Jul 10, 2015 10:35 AM in response to Scott B. Silverman
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    Jul 10, 2015 10:35 AM in response to Scott B. Silverman

    I feel your pain.

  • by iSwan,

    iSwan iSwan Jul 10, 2015 4:32 PM in response to Frank Berzau
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    Jul 10, 2015 4:32 PM in response to Frank Berzau

    You sound like an apple employee.

     

    Yours is the mentality apple hope people will take which is: as long as you subscribe to apple music, you'll have all your music wherever and whenever you want it.

     

    In reality, and what people are actually saying is - how dare apple completely trash my music, and if you ever decide to unsubscribe, you lose EVERYTHING you once owned (which if purchased, surely that becomes a legal issue?)

     

    Im annoyed at the time Ive wasted reverting my library back to its old state, had I known that it was going to completely trample my library to replace it with iCloud music, i wouldn't have done it. and i don't think it was made very clear

  • by JazzmanJohn,

    JazzmanJohn JazzmanJohn Jul 10, 2015 6:01 PM in response to iSwan
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    Jul 10, 2015 6:01 PM in response to iSwan

    It was not made clear at all. Apple Music has some good qualities, but the part that resulted in trashing existing music files on customers' computers is really bad. I could not agree with you more. My library has been restored as well as I can expect, but it sure took a lot of time to do it and my 128 Gb iPhone 6 Plus. I don't ever want to do that again.

  • by serendip,

    serendip serendip Jul 11, 2015 4:03 AM in response to JazzmanJohn
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    Jul 11, 2015 4:03 AM in response to JazzmanJohn

    This is Apple all over, anyway you like it as long as it is their way.  Managed to catch this before too much damage was done, but still needed to delete all the music off my iPhone before restoring from an unaffected iTunes library to get it back to how I want it.

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