lnsmhntr

Q: When making a call using Apple Watch, is there a way for the watches native audio and mic capabilities to be bypassed in favour of a connected bluetooth headset?

What I am trying to figure out is whether, when I initiate a call on the Apple Watch, audio and mic capabilities can bypass the Watch to a bluetooth headset when one is connected to the phone. I tried calling someone with my recently acquired Watch, bluetooth headphones connected, expecting to receive and register audio via the headset. What I got instead was a phone call occurring entirely via the Watch.


This seems like a relatively obvious feature to have and if not I'll send this along to tech support for review as an added feature. The idea behind my watch was to not have to take my phone out but I also want my phone conversations to be private, not blaring through a tiny speaker on my watch for all to hear. If I could simply use the watch to initiate the call, that would be superb.


Thanks to the community for any helpful advice or feedback.

Apple Watch, watchOS 1.0.1, with bluetooth headphones

Posted on Jul 10, 2015 4:42 AM

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  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Jul 13, 2015 9:13 AM in response to lnsmhntr
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    Jul 13, 2015 9:13 AM in response to lnsmhntr

    So can you write the code that is needed to do this and post it here for everybody?

     

    I rarely use a headset to take a call but when I do I don't find it onerous to tap the control on my headset and answer it. I do appreciate the fact that I can see who is calling by looking at the watch. I don't have music on my watch so I don't connect my headphones to it using the A2DP protocol.

     

    I have taken calls on my watch, especially while home alone and my gripe is the delay in answering using the phone while the Handsfree connection engages between the phone and the watch but I understand with the nature of BT this will happen.

     

    For your suggestion to work (I hope you did send feedback on this) it is going to require disconnecting the BT connection between the iPhone and the Watch, and then establishing a pairing using the handsfree pairing with the headset and the watch using that protocol. This will not be trivial programming and will involve several levels and definitely will no be easy. When a call comes in and is sent to your Watch you will have to be given the option on screen (small real estate) that you have now plus an option to answer on the Watch or a headset. If you choose headset the Watch will have to terminate the connection the on the Watch with the iPhone which with BT causes a delay while this happens and then establish a connection with your headset, again the BT delay and a possible problem: if the headset has been used to handsfree pair with the iPhone it may connect to that instead. You will have to take out your phone to turn off that connection then you can take the call on your headset.

     

    If I was calling you I've long since hung up.

     

    A better way to accomplish what you want would be to install either two BT radios or a chip that has two BT circuits allowing the Watch to maintain simultaneous Handsfree protocol connections with the iPhone and the headset. This would simplify the coding and connections required and merely pass the feed from the iPhone to the Watch and relay it to the other radio to the headset. There will still be the inevitable BT delay but it would be much faster and far more reliable.

     

    Or wait for a new Watch that has its own cell radio.

  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Jul 13, 2015 9:24 AM in response to lnsmhntr
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    Jul 13, 2015 9:24 AM in response to lnsmhntr

    Another option: a Bluetooth upgrade that would allow multiple device pairing. In other words allow the headset to be paired as a handsfree device with the iPhone while it was paired via A2DP with the Watch. To answer via your headset you tap the icon on your watch screen which pauses the A2DP feed and switches to the iPhone Handsfree feed. You will need to send this suggestion to the BT consortium.

     

    In the meantime you can pair to the iPhone, look at your watch to see who is calling then tap your switch on your headset to take it there if you wish.

  • by lnsmhntr,

    lnsmhntr lnsmhntr Jul 13, 2015 10:03 AM in response to deggie
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    Jul 13, 2015 10:03 AM in response to deggie

    Deggie,

     

    I'm not a programmer, I'm a consumer, and while I admit that I have no idea how the coding behind these devices works, what I am suggesting should not be impossible. As you have just described above, the Watch could in theory send the call back to the iPhone with a simple prompt from the Watch, as it does with various other apps. The "real estate" on the Watch face is a pointless argument to make because many a time now I have been required to scroll down to select various options for the apps supported by the device, whether to reply to a text message or some other option. While the delay you are describing could present a problem, the Watch OS 2 update will allow apps to run natively on the Watch decreasing delay. I don't know whether this will have an impact on the calling functionality between the Watch and the iPhone, but here's hoping. With that being said, when a call is coming through, both my Watch and iPhone are technically ringing. When answered via the watch there is a delay, but when answered via the iPhone there is not. The delay you speak of may likely be due to the fact that you are choosing to answer on the watch and not the phone. If you could quickly scroll down to initiate the call from your iPhone the delay you mention may not even occur because the call itself will not be transferred to the Watch, only the prompt to answer the call.

     

    You also keep ignoring the fact that I would like to be able to INITIATE a phone call, as in MAKE one MYSELF, from my Watch but have the call itself be conducted via the iPhone. This is the real issue at hand in my feedback. I know I can answer calls easily with my headset, which I do, so the issue of someone hanging up before I answer is irrelevant. Furthermore, the Watch shouldn't need to connect to my headset for this to work as the iPhone could create a bridge between these two devices, negating any need for the Watch or the headset to communicate directly, ever. If my wireless headset is connected to my phone, and the call I have initiated on my Watch is designated to my phone via an on screen prompt to do so, the call now occurring on my iPhone should automatically be projected to my bluetooth headset, because that's how the iPhone works.


    What is relevant is that I don't want to have to take my phone out every time I want to make a call when the functionality to do so on the Watch could exist. As such, the delay would be on the end of the user and not the receiver, something I and others would not be too bothered by as it beats having to pull your phone out of the bottom of your bag, or fetching it from another room. I have already seen that a phone call is very easily transferred from the Watch to the phone when I pick up my iPhone to continue the conversation that was occurring on the Watch, without any delay in transference, hence why I believe this feature is possible and that you are focusing too heavily on the apparent limitations of the technology and not enough on the communicative functionality and programming which already exists between all of these devices.


    On a side note, calling someone out on a support/feedback forum to "write the code that is needed" for a certain function to work isn't constructive. So far, whether you have been right or wrong, which has yet to be determined, in your feedback, I have been uninterested in what you've had to say because you lack lack the ability to communicate in a constructive manner like a regular human being. You also keep referring to how you do things with your devices. Well guess what, you're not the only person using them. We all use our devices differently.


    I have already contacted Apple with the feedback mentioned in all communications above. Thank you for whatever time you have taken out of your schedule to try and help inform me better. I will now resign from further communications as this issue has been beaten to death and all we can do now is to wait and see what Apple can manage in future Watch and iOS updates. If you were right all along, more power to you but I firmly believe that outside opinions and ideas, such as my own, can lead to further improvements of the devices we enjoy.


    Best regards.

  • by Tim Campbell1,

    Tim Campbell1 Tim Campbell1 Jul 13, 2015 3:17 PM in response to lnsmhntr
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    Jul 13, 2015 3:17 PM in response to lnsmhntr

    It might make more sense if you think of the watch as a 2nd display for your phone (it's a smart display... sort of like Airplay protocol for an Apple TV in that it can run it's own apps or display remote apps.).  In reality, everything in the watch universe really revolves around the iPhone.  Your watch is an extension of the phone.

     

    When you make a call on the watch, it's really a call on the phone and the iPhone is acting "like a bluetooth speakerphone" on your wrist. 

     

    If you look at your phone, (unlock it if you need to) you'll notice the home screen has a green border along the top indicating that you are currently in a phone call.  Tap that green border and it brings up the phone interface and takes control of the call (on the phone).  It also transfer the call back to the phone audio. 

     

    Just take control of the call with your phone, and tell the phone to use your bluetooth headset.

     

    You can do this in mid-call.  It will not drop.

  • by Katiedid2,

    Katiedid2 Katiedid2 Jul 13, 2015 8:29 PM in response to lnsmhntr
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    Jul 13, 2015 8:29 PM in response to lnsmhntr

    WWait..in the settings on the watch, you can pair a bluetoothe device with the watch, or am I wrong?

  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Jul 14, 2015 8:23 AM in response to Katiedid2
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    Jul 14, 2015 8:23 AM in response to Katiedid2

    Your can pair headphones or a speaker using the A2DP BT protocol.

  • by Robert Lewis1,

    Robert Lewis1 Robert Lewis1 Jun 20, 2016 1:33 PM in response to Tim Campbell1
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    Jun 20, 2016 1:33 PM in response to Tim Campbell1
    The whole point is to avoid getting the iPhone out of your pocket.  We want the convenience of placing a call via the watch and using a headset to have the conversation.
  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Jun 20, 2016 2:04 PM in response to Robert Lewis1
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    Jun 20, 2016 2:04 PM in response to Robert Lewis1
    Everyone understands that. Send in your feedback as suggested earlier in this year old post.
  • by Robert Lewis1,

    Robert Lewis1 Robert Lewis1 Jun 20, 2016 2:54 PM in response to deggie
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    Jun 20, 2016 2:54 PM in response to deggie

    Everyone but Tim Campbell1, to whom I was responding.

  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Jun 20, 2016 3:06 PM in response to Robert Lewis1
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    Jun 20, 2016 3:06 PM in response to Robert Lewis1

    His last post was in October of last year.

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