Are Apple updates too frequent?

gail from maine wrote:

Security fixes are not something that Apple can wait around and accumulate in order to make the updates less frequent. Almost all iOS updates include security fixes. If you are not worried about security, then just don't update until you feel like it.

GB

+1

No reason to compromise devices, just to have less frequent updates. I want an update when something needs to be fixed. Not 2 or 3 months from then, when the vulnerability is out there and has had time to be exploited.

4mercustomer wrote:

Agreed. Updates are too frequent.

You can sit on the update as long as you want. But Apple has a responsibility to offer the update promptly, and not wait to accumulate fixes before releasing one. With companies like Verizon, Yahoo, Equifax getting hacked, you really want Apple to not fix potential holes as soon as they find them? That just seems ridiculously dumb.

As a "4mercustomer", I'm sure the update schedule for most android devices will be more to your liking. That being maybe once or twice in 2 or 3 years.

Security fixes are not something that Apple can wait around and accumulate in order to make the updates less frequent. Almost all iOS updates include security fixes. If you are not worried about security, then just don't update until you feel like it.

GB

Your choice is to update or to leave your phone vulnerable to hacking. Most updates fix newly discovered security vulnerabilities, in addition to routine bugs. Once an update comes out hackers will attack the devices that haven't been updated, as the vulnerabilities that have been fixed are published. Your choice, however.

If you don't want notifications of app updates go to Settings/Notifications/App Store and turn off Notifications.

This thread was originally about iOS updates, however, not app updates.

IdrisSeabright wrote:

Phil0124 wrote:

As a "4mercustomer", I'm sure the update schedule for most android devices will be more to your liking. That being maybe once or twice in 2 or 3 years.

If you get them at all.

Indeed. Many times android devices will get no updates at all.

IdrisSeabright wrote:

And, of course, there's the fact that the carriers generally have control over the Android updates. So, even if there is a security update, well, who knows when AT&T or Verizon will approve it?

And also the device manufacturers. Many times you need to wait for them to actually get there hands on the update from Google, and tailor it for the devices, and requirements.

You'll be luck to get them within months or even a year after Google has released it.

Interesting reading:

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3173068/android/android-upgrade-report-car d-nougat.html?page=2

Spoilers: Samsung gets an F regarding timely updates.

The frequency with which you prefer app updates seems to depend on whether you are a nerd, or someone who actually has a life. I don't want to see the red updates sign on my AppStore app every single day. It always shows a number like 7 for instance, and when you open the app that number usually increases by a third or so. I do always update immediately, but it's extremely annoying to have to update every day as it takes time out of my otherwise busy schedule, as I use lots of applications for my daily tasks.

I understand there are people out there who just love the cult of apple and enjoy spending their lives updating software and talking about new apple products and looking down their nose at people who don't understand instal updates quite as regularly.

I'm a person who installs every update immediately, I have never owned a computer or smart device of any kind that was not produced by apple, but I do appreciate that some people just don't want to spend their lives espousing how great apple is and how great they are for loving apple and everything apple do, and how rubbish everyone else is because they just don't l get the thing about apple that they get.

The question is still: are apple updates too frequent? Forget the part about you loving apple and everything they do, and pretend that you don't feel that way and give the question another go.

Phil0124 wrote:

As a "4mercustomer", I'm sure the update schedule for most android devices will be more to your liking. That being maybe once or twice in 2 or 3 years.

If you get them at all.

Just manually update your system or apps.

Thanks for the reply. Yes. My message was totally irrelevant to the original post. I was actually just venting as it's so difficult to get an answer to a question online as everyone wants to be an expert. I googled "what to give a cat visitor too drink" last week and found dozens upon dozens of posts relating to the feline digestive system. (The answer was simple people, "a saucer of half milk half water" - get a grip of yourselves).

Anyway. I was actually trying to find out why every day my App Store shows me the badge icon for updates waiting to be installed. It usually shows upwards of three, and sometimes as many as seven (this is actually every single day). When I open the App Store app that number usually increases by around a third to a half.

although it's no great inconvenience is slightly annoying that every day I'm being asked to update apps. I don't have an enormous number of apps by the way.

Yes, actually I'm sorry. In my defence it was a two-year-old post and didn't expect anybody to be reading it. However, it is awfully difficult to get an answer to very straightforward question. My query when I googled and found this post was "why are my apps asking me to instal lots of update every day"?

williworm72 wrote:

The frequency with which you prefer app updates seems to depend on whether you are a nerd, or someone who actually has a life.

I'm not sure why you think the two are mutually exclusive. I's rather like saying something seems to depend on whether you read books or have a life. Or whether you watch football (either variety) or have a life. Or whether you mix a mean martini or have a life. Such a statement is rather insulting.

I'll take that into consideration. But they fix one thing and break another. Recently the Apple Contacts doesn't allow me to scroll down and read what's in the notes. That's a new thing. It was working just fine before one of the last updates. I feel that Apple just is writing sloppy code and releasing it to the public full of bugs and then we have to spend all this time doing the updates when staff should have worked out the kinks in beta. It feels in a way that we are doing Apple's testing for them.

Does that have anything to do with the fact that there are several hundred OPEN security vulnerabilities in most Android phones, or that a number of Google Play store apps that contain spyware have been downloaded millions of times?

My experience was the Motorola did the best. At least with Verizon, they put out the phones with the least amount of extra junk on them. The original Pixel came out just after I stopped working for them so I haven't really looked at it or the Pixel 2 but, hopefully, as they are branded "Google", they get updates a little more often.

Well, Motorola it appears, has been going down hill:

computerworld.com wrote:

Under Lenovo's wing, Motorola went from being at the head of the class to earning an ever-slipping range of embarrassing scores. It got a 65% "D" grade in 2015, a 52% "F" grade in 2016, and now -- a mere three years after Lenovo took the company's reins from Google -- it's down to a shameful 49% failing score.