Buying a used phone from Craigslist - What should I look for?

I am getting my first iPhone from Craigslist, a Space Gray 32G iPhone 5S. However, Craigslist does not have a strong reputation (stronger than eBay, at least) and many scams have been done. The images shown are in dim light. They say there is only one small scuff on the side, of which I am fine with. They state the iPhone is factory reset, it has a clean ESN, and they are offering to give me the IMEI to personally check the device. It is an unlocked T-Mobile phone, of which I plan to replace the SIM-card for a different service.


I will be meeting them in a public area in real life, not shipping. What should I look for when examining the phone? I plan to setup the phone while they are there to make sure all the buttons work, Siri works, headphones and charging ports work, as well as the structure of the phone (make sure it isn't plastic, font is not from Android, basically just not a China fake). Is there anything else I should check for? Thanks. 🙂


Note: I do not have a SIM-card to test phone calls or texts, however I could try to test those on WiFi.

iPhone 5s, iOS 8.4, Space Gray 32G

Posted on Jul 11, 2015 10:41 AM

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Jul 11, 2015 11:55 AM in response to itsChris

In addition to the advice about checking the Activation Status of

the iPhone provided by Neil and FoxFifth, do the following.


Before purchase, take a photo of the seller and their photo ID and send

both to the cloud. If the seller demurs, walk away immediately.


Standard scam is to sell iPhone, then report it stolen/lost to insurance.

Seller has insurance money and your money, and you own a blacklisted

iPhone that is unusable.


Take someone with you and have that person stay in the car/across the room

(having entered separately from you) holding the money until after

you have checked out the iPhone. Be careful when you do bring out the

money that an associate of the seller cannot grab it and run. Also watch

out for robbery - either of the cash on the way to the sale/after seeing the

iPhone if the sale does not go through or the iPhone itself after the sale.

Jul 11, 2015 12:08 PM in response to imobl

I think taking an image of the seller and their ID is a bit overboard, I think writing down their license plate is much more suitable (unless they stole the car too 😝). As for your second advice, how would that work? If they factory reset the phone and remove iCloud from it (of which needs a password) it is legally not theirs, right? If the IMEI is approved by the websites above that means it is usable and not blacklisted. I'm not assuming the seller is a criminal, I'm just trying to be weary. My friend will be beside me and I will have the money in my pocket. What do you mean "if the sale does not go through,"? It is a trade in real life, not over the internet.


I'd also like to point out my question was about what to look for on the phone that could indicate it is a fake, I doubt the phone was stolen.

Jul 11, 2015 12:16 PM in response to itsChris

itsChris wrote:


I think taking an image of the seller and their ID is a bit overboard

Not really. In fact, you should immediately send the photo to a trusted friend who knows where you are and what you're doing. You should have another friend with you. Ideally, you should agree to meet the seller at your local police station. If they refuse, walk away. Better yet, don't even get into the mess of buying an iPhone from craigslist at all. At least eBay has buyer protection. craigslist has nothing.


And don't forget to google "craigslist scam" and "craigslist murder" before you take the plunge.

Jul 11, 2015 12:25 PM in response to itsChris

Cars are borrowed, rented, used without permission. Picture positively identifies

the person doing the sale. Not everyone has a phone ID - especially in urban areas

where not all people drive. Your choice if a photo of the person is enough.


Selling an iPhone and then reporting it lost/stolen is fraud. Insurance company has

the iPhone which you paid for blacklisted and the seller has your money and the insurance money.

The fact that the iPhone does not show as currently blacklisted does not prevent the seller

from causing it to be blacklisted later after you have possession of it.


Say the iPhone is not in the condition that was described and you decide not to purchase - the sale

did not go through. But the seller and his associates have seen you and know you had the

money to pay for the iPhone. Or there never was an iPhone to sell - they just want some

one to show with cash to be robbed. How are you going to identify yourself to the seller

upon arrival or know who the seller is? Look for me in a red shirt with money in my pocket?

Keep the money separate from your person until you need it - basic security. Many/most

Craigslist sales in public places go through without a hitch. But you have to plan ahead

to be sure you cannot be victimized if that is the intent of the seller.


Can you afford to lost the money you intend to pay for the iPhone? If not, take some

precautions. Just remember that not everyone is as nice or trustworthy as you would

assume them to be. Ask yourself 2 questions: if the price on the iPhone is a good

deal, why is it being sold for such a low price? And if the price is not a good deal, why

are you purchasing from Craigslist instead of Apple or an Apple authorized retailer

where you will get full warranty and support?


Please report back after the sale and let us know how it went.

Jul 11, 2015 12:39 PM in response to KiltedTim

Well, I don't have access to sending information to others. I am going with a friend, neither of us have phones. I already have situated a location with the seller. We both agreed to meet in a public area. I will specify where we should meet, but why a police station? I am not worried about being killed or him later reporting the phone stolen, I already have evidence of the post and our emails. My original post was about what to look for in a fake phone, plastic backs or discoloration of the phone.


I'm worried of being scammed of my money for a fake product, not of being physically harmed.

Jul 11, 2015 12:43 PM in response to itsChris

itsChris wrote:


Well, I don't have access to sending information to others. I ana public area. I will specify where we should meet, but why a police station? I am not worried about being killed or him later reporting the phone stolen, I already have evidence of the post and our emails. My original post was about what to look for in a fake phone, plastic backs or discoloration of the phone.


I'm worried of being scammed of my money for a fake product, not of being physically harmed.

Then you're not paying attention, people have already died in 2nd hand iPhone transactions, as well as in recovering lost ones.

Jul 11, 2015 12:48 PM in response to imobl

I still have a week until the sale. The seller works long hours during weekdays and I won't have my money until Thursday. We planned to meet at a local shopping mall in front of many people.


I planned to notify the seller of my location by describing the car I will be driving and for them to do so as well. Ex: I am in a blue Honda. Meet in front of Macys. Seller: I am in a red Chevy, see you there.


The seller also has notified me that the phone has a clean ESN. They state that the phone comes with a deactivated T-Mobile SIM-card, meaning they have paid off their final bill and it is unlocked (since T-Mobile is a GSM company).

Jul 11, 2015 12:50 PM in response to itsChris

itsChris wrote:


We both agreed to meet in a public area. I will specify where we should meet, but why a police station? I am not worried about being killed or him later reporting the phone stolen,

The point of meeting at a police station, aside from the risks Csound1 mentions (and they are real) is that people who are in the process of committing even a non-violent crime are not terribly inclined to do that where law enforcement might see them, might capture their likeness on a security camera.


Buying a used phone from an unknown person on Craigslist is just foolish. If the price is cheap, that's a bad sign right there. Either save your money and buy a new iPhone or use the money you have and buy another brand of phone that is less expensive. It would be better to have a phone that is not exactly the one you want rather than to be left with a phone you can't use and no money.

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