emac to emac file transfer

hi - the screen on my old emac is gone (just a vertical line in the center of the screen). i got a new emac (used). i want to transfer the files from the old one to the new one. have tried using the migration assistant with firewire but it stalls at "waiting for discs to appear". my old emac is user password protected so that before i get a disc image i would have to log in. i'm assuming that is why the migration assistant stalls out. is there any way for me to proceed with this or will i have to take it to a technician and have him pull the hard drive and the files ? - thanks, beaner

emac, Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Oct 30, 2006 7:00 PM

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Oct 31, 2006 4:25 AM in response to bobbymacbean

Without your screen working there's not much you can do. The easiest way is to link up your 2 eMacs using an ethernet cable and plug a projector into your eMac (the one with the non working screen).

Go into system preferences (on both) and under sharing click "enable file sharing". Go onto your second computer (with the first one still on) and, in finder, under go, click connect to server and chose your other computer. Log in as your old username and password and you will have access to your entire computer.

Chuck

eMac Mac OS X (10.4.8) 1.42Ghz PPC G4

Oct 31, 2006 2:07 PM in response to Chuck Smith 2

Without your screen working there's not much you can
do. The easiest way is to link up your 2 eMacs using
an ethernet cable and plug a projector into your eMac
(the one with the non working screen).

Go into system preferences (on both) and under
sharing click "enable file sharing". Go onto your
second computer (with the first one still on) and,
in finder, under go, click connect to server and
chose your other computer. Log in as your old
username and password and you will have access to
your entire computer.

Chuck

eMac Mac OS
X (10.4.8) 1.42Ghz PPC G4


thanks for the response chuck. is using a projector the same concept as mirroring ? i have read a bit about the mirroring process with an external monitor but nothing of what i have read tells me if the keyboard/mouse will be active in the monitor or projector used to mirror the faulty screen ? i'm guessing the answer to that is yes since you say above to go into preferences to enable file sharing ? appreciate your help. thanks, beaner

Oct 31, 2006 2:35 PM in response to PT

Have you tried connecting the two Macs with a
Firewire cable, then first booting the broken display
one into Target mode by booting up while holding the
T key, then booting up the other one?

Patrick


thanks for the response patrick. as stated in my original question, that is what i have already done using the migration assistant but it didn't work but thanks for the suggestion. - beaner

Oct 31, 2006 4:12 PM in response to bobbymacbean

Odd; Patrick's suggestion should work to put the Mac with the bad display into Firewire Target Disk mode; even in Migration/Setup Assitant stalls, it should still be possible to get at the hard drive contents.

I do recall several posters reportd trouble with the timing of turning on the godd computer (the host) and the trohbled one (the client) in the terminology of FireWire target disk mode.
You can also double-check the steps in Setup Assistant.

Oct 31, 2006 4:53 PM in response to JMVP

Odd; Patrick's suggestion should work to put the Mac
with the bad display into Firewire Target Disk mode;
even in Migration/Setup Assitant stalls, it should
still be possible to get at the hard drive contents.


even if start up is user id log in protected ? - thanks, beaner




I do recall several posters reportd trouble with the
timing of turning on the godd computer (the host) and
the trohbled one (the client) in the terminology of
FireWire target disk mode.
You can also double-check the steps in Setup Assistant.

Oct 31, 2006 5:20 PM in response to bobbymacbean

Odd; Patrick's suggestion should work to put the

Mac
with the bad display into Firewire Target Disk

mode;
even in Migration/Setup Assitant stalls, it should
still be possible to get at the hard drive

contents.


even if start up is user id log in protected ? -
thanks, beaner



actually, i just looked at the migration assistant procedures again and it says to hold down the t key until the firewire symbol appears on the old machine. unless the migration assistant overides user id log in protection, i would not be able to see the firewire symbol until i have logged in to an administrator user account even if the screen was working which it is not. unfortunately, the easiest/cheapest way to do this (Mini VGA to Video Adapter) does not work on my emac so i will have to use a mini vga adapter combined with a db15/vga adapter and hope that one of the older monitors i have laying around will accomplish the mirroring and allow me access to the old computer so that i can enable file sharing and make a connection between the two computers. that is unless someone reading this can correct any misconceptions mentioned here or has an easier way of making this happen. - thanks beaner
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Oct 31, 2006 6:02 PM in response to bobbymacbean

The Migration Assistant does not require that a password to accounts on the other machine is entered before you can migrate data from it, and the login password protection mechanism does not block the use of FireWire Target Disk mode, as the account database isn't consulted until Mac OS X has mostly finished starting up.

If you have an Open Firmware password set on the machine, it will block access to FireWire Target Disk mode; in this case, follow the last set of instructions in this article and then use FireWire Target Disk mode.

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Oct 31, 2006 7:14 PM in response to Niel

The Migration Assistant does not require that a
password to accounts on the other machine is entered
before you can migrate data from it, and the login
password protection mechanism does not block the use
of FireWire Target Disk mode, as the account database
isn't consulted until Mac OS X has mostly finished
starting up.

If you have an Open Firmware password set on the
machine, it will block access to FireWire Target Disk
mode; in this case, follow the last set of
instructions in this article and then use FireWire Target
Disk mode.

(17401)


thanks for the response niel. followed the instructions and the computer made all the right sounds. since i have no screen, i can't say for sure that the procedure was executed precisely but after each step i waited a bit before i moved on to the next one . at the end, it restarted as was predicted in the instructions so i'm fairly confident that it was done correctly. was still unable to connect the two machines. proceeded to "Resetting your Mac's PRAM and NVRAM" http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238 and followed the instructions in the same manner as the first set and again the computer restarted as was predicted in the instructions but still unable to complete the migration assistant. i guess i will have to wait until i can get the adapters needed to establish a mirror for this computer before i can figure anything else out. i'm going to leave this as unresolved in case somebody has other ideas to contribute but thanks to all for the constructive advice and helpful info. - thanks, beaner

Oct 31, 2006 7:32 PM in response to bobbymacbean

A thread elsewhere in the AD has reminded me that on some older Mac models, a display that appears as a single vertical line in the center of the screen could be tied to a drained PRAM battery. I don't recall seeing that display symptom mentioned in connection with eMacs, but it's something you can easily test. If you have a voltmeter, check the PRAM battery while it's under load (e.g., still in the battery holder in the eMac) and if it's more than 0.1v off from the nominal 3.6v rating, replace it with a 1/2 AA 3.6v lithium battery. In the US, those batteries are usually stock items at places like Radio Shack for around US$11 or so; you can find them for less online (but then you pay shipping and wait for delivery). Battery replacement instructions are at eMac - Do-It-Yourself.

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