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Q: Mac Pro Late 2013 AMD FirePro D700 D300 D500 Windows 10 Boot Camp Driver

More than a question this is an advice, if you are running Windows on a Mac Pro Late 2013 (the so called "ash tray") and you want to upgrade to Windows 10 you will have some problems ONLY with the video cards, at this moment (Monday, July 27, 2015) the AMD Boot Camp drivers downloaded with the Boot Camps assistant on OS X are NOT working at all with Windows 10, also, the drivers available directly from the AMD site are buggy on Windows 8.1 and don't work at all in Windows 10.

 

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/bootcamp

 

After realizing that the video cards didn't work I had to rollback (downgrade) to Windows 8.1 and I'm amazed that is quite easy and very fast, here is a video showing how:

 

https://youtu.be/UIj1H_6R7-k

 

So you have been warned, wait until Apple release the Windows 10 Boot Camp drivers.

Mac Pro (Late 2013), OS X Yosemite (10.10.4), Boot Camp

Posted on Jul 27, 2015 5:15 AM

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Q: Mac Pro Late 2013 AMD FirePro D700 D300 D500 Windows 10 Boot Camp Driver

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  • by Rudegar,

    Rudegar Rudegar Jul 27, 2015 8:13 AM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom
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    Jul 27, 2015 8:13 AM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom

    nice to hear it I have imac 2011 with some amd gpu and had unstable problems with win8 with win7 bootcamp driver and later problems with win8.1 with win8 drivers

    hope that the bootcamp drivers for win10 will have drivers at all for my amd gpu as nvidia and much newer amd gpu's are used in macs new enough to likely official support win10 in bootcamp

  • by RodrigoPoloDOTcom,

    RodrigoPoloDOTcom RodrigoPoloDOTcom Jul 28, 2015 12:31 PM in response to Rudegar
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    Jul 28, 2015 12:31 PM in response to Rudegar

    I hope so, I shared some of my views about AMD video cards on their support forums:

    https://community.amd.com/message/2660523

  • by Cliffback,Solvedanswer

    Cliffback Cliffback Jul 30, 2015 8:31 PM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom
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    Jul 30, 2015 8:31 PM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom

    I've successfully upgraded to Windows 10, and I'm currently using what you could called "modded" AMD drivers. I have used them fore a while, after I grew tired of no updates, and learned about the method on some forums. Right now I have installed the AMD Catalyst 15.7.1 update, and it runs just fine. Have used modded drivers for some months, and haven't encountered any issues (once I got a successfull install).

     

    I have a Mac Pro (2013) with the D700s.

     

    The process, which actually is quite easy:
    1. Download the latest driver (at the moment of writing 15.7.1), the AMD Omega 14.12 driver, and the official December Bootcamp Driver 14.301.

    2. Make a new folder called "modded driver", which purpose explains itself.

    3. Copy everytning from the latest driver to "modded driver".

    4. Copy everything from the Bin64 folder of the Omega driver and overwrite everyting in the Bin64 folder of "modded driver".

    5. Copy "InstallManagerApp.exe" and "InstallManager.dll" from the Bin64 folder of the December Bootcamp driver, and overwrite the corresponding files in the Bin64 folder of "modded drivers".

    6. Now you are ready to install the driver. Just run "setup.exe" in the root folder of "modded drivers"

     

    Now you should have new and better performing drivers installed, working perfectly with Windows 10.

     

    If you have problems with the Catalyst software, which I had on the latest driver updates in Windows 8.1 (but not anymore on Windows 10), do the same process with an earlier version of the driver (15.5 worked for me), run the setup, and chose custom installation. Here you only chose to install Catalyst. Now Catalyst should work properly too.

     

    Also, if you encounter any more problems using this method, you should uninstall the driver using "Display Driver Uninstaller", and probably delete everything AMD related in the registry (CMD+R, regedit).

     

    Hope it works for you too! That being said, I'm really disappointed in the Bootcamp support, and the driver updates. I'm actually thinking about selling my Mac Pro, and building a pure Windows desktop, and no more AMD!!! I'm doing a lot of video editing in Premiere Pro CC, and have the experience have disappointed med, compared to how much money I put in it. No way I want to switch to FinalCut X (testet it with the trial). Also I game a lot, and that's not great in either OSX or Windows/Bootcamp, especially on new games that require driver updates with new profiles. I can play Borderlands 2 in 4K, but almost can't play The Witcher 3 in 1080p, even with the latest (modded) drivers.

     

    Btw. don't blame me if you brick your GPU (which I don't think it's likely to happen, but I just have to say it).

  • by fiftybarrel,

    fiftybarrel fiftybarrel Jul 31, 2015 3:28 PM in response to Cliffback
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    Jul 31, 2015 3:28 PM in response to Cliffback

    the following solved my issue

     

    Mac Pro Late 2013 dual D500's

     

     

    https://community.amd.com/thread/184589

  • by RodrigoPoloDOTcom,

    RodrigoPoloDOTcom RodrigoPoloDOTcom Aug 1, 2015 1:16 AM in response to Cliffback
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    Aug 1, 2015 1:16 AM in response to Cliffback

    Thanks, I saw the corrections made by mrrobot and it works!

    https://community.amd.com/message/2661642#2661642

  • by Cliffback,

    Cliffback Cliffback Aug 1, 2015 5:19 PM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom
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    Aug 1, 2015 5:19 PM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom

    I just uploaded all my working modded drivers to this folder, if anyone wanna download: https://mega.nz/#F!rE8T0BCT!e98m7Ww6mat3LedjR0aGJw

  • by Wintermancer,Helpful

    Wintermancer Wintermancer Aug 9, 2015 8:14 PM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom
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    Aug 9, 2015 8:14 PM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom

    The unwillingness of both Apple and AMD to provide up-to-date bootcamp video drivers, is totally unprofessional.  It is a slap in the face to every customer that uses bootcamp.  For this sector of customer base I believe it is damaging to their brand.  To be the only customer of which AMD's website says "This driver is not intended for use on AMD products running in Apple Boot Camp platforms."  And to have Apple standing by doing NOTHING to pass on updates to their customer base is appalling.  And it isn't like a driver update is a huge technical feat.  The code base is being maintained for every other AMD chipset out there.  People are able to hack it to get it to work.  For Apple to provide a stable driver is maddeningly trivial, which makes it clear that denying it is likely the internal policy of some jerk manager(s) that want to kick in the nards anybody that dares to seriously use Windows on Apple hardware.

     

    A comparison, Apple has fired missiles at the Android community because their phones are notorious for getting no updates pushed from the manufacturers.  Well, Apple is acting from the same playbook.  When it comes time to get a new workstation, am I going to get an Apple again? NOOOOO!  Will I buy anything with an AMD card? NOOOOO!  Your brand is mud.  Can you, Apple and AMD, fix this?  Yes, just provide driver updates for the video chipset in my $10K computer!  It is insulting that I have to beg for you to do this.  But ultimately, the future will be a vote with the wallet.  You will have no body to blame but yourself for lackluster sales.  Is it due to product design?  No.  Is it due to lost 'halo' effect?  No.  Is it due to atrocious customer support?  Absolutely yes.

  • by RodrigoPoloDOTcom,

    RodrigoPoloDOTcom RodrigoPoloDOTcom Aug 9, 2015 9:41 PM in response to Wintermancer
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    Aug 9, 2015 9:41 PM in response to Wintermancer

    I agree that it is insulting that we have to beg for a driver, but lets try to be 100% fair, we have to understand the problem here...

     

    First, Apple decided to create a computer like no other, and they use a non standard AMD video card design, that lead AMD to change some things on the card that make it quite different from their common cards, so we cannot blame 100% AMD for not providing a driver in time if we consider this, but, if Apple ask AMD to provide a card for high end customers, AMD should put some effort on this "special" card, specially considering that high end users are the ones that influence other customers, Marques Brownlee for instance, a YouTuber that use this kind of computers is influencing potential customers and I can bet he can´t use Windows 10 on his Mac Pro.

     

    In the other hand we have Apple, a company that is more interesting in the portable and mobile market, they take to long to update their Mac Pro line, and when they finally did it they did it in a great way introducing a incredible new design, I remember that after presenting the new Mac Pro design Phil Schiller said "Can't innovate anymore, my ***" and everyone on Apple were proud of it... but it looks like their focus is not in this product, or at least not in using Windows 10. Lets remember that Windows 8 was released on October 25, 2012 and Boot Camp 5 (for Windows 8) was available until March 14, 2013... six months and 17 days later.

     

    So who is the one to blame?

     

    First is AMD, Boot Camp drivers for Windows 8 work perfectly on Windows 10, everything but the AMD video card driver, and using a MacBook Pro Retina I know that the same driver everyone uses works on Windows 10 using the same Boot Camp instalation, so clearly Nvidia is doing a great job, the next one to blame is Apple first for not pushing hard enough AMD to have an up to date driver installation and secondly because they decided to use a different non-standard video card design and they choose to use f*king AMD instead of the great Nvidia video cards.

     

    I really hope that Apple switch to Nvidia on the next Mac Pro version and I really really hope they make available an upgrade to swap the AMD video cards for some new Nvidia cards, I'm willing to pay for that upgrade any time soon.

  • by 1v0,

    1v0 1v0 Aug 10, 2015 10:41 PM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom
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    Aug 10, 2015 10:41 PM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom

    Running the latest version of Windows 10.Well, that did not work for me. May be because my card is D500 and not D900.

    I managed to install the driver (15.7.1) but for Windows 7 64bit. It worked OK in the first few minutes and then started having linear sparks on both my monitors whenever there is movement on the screens.

    I followed this post http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/nmp-d300-d500-d700-do-not-work-in-windows-10 .1904313/#post-21652551

    So far the best solution for D500 cards, but it is not 100%.

    I also prefer NVIDIA cards for many reasons, but we are stuck with the AMD ones. They are not horrible, but I would not get them if I have a choice.

    Let's hope AMD/Apple will release an updates driver for Mac Pro Late 2013 soon.

  • by igmackenzie,

    igmackenzie igmackenzie Aug 13, 2015 11:36 AM in response to 1v0
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    Aug 13, 2015 11:36 AM in response to 1v0

    Guys, I have a 6970M in my 2011 iMac, and I tried your workaround to get the 15.7 drivers working as per Cliffback's post with the 'modded driver' folder process.

    It seemed to work OK, as the installation seemed to complete, but on reboot, it still seems like I have the 14.301 drivers.

    Any suggestions?

  • by RodrigoPoloDOTcom,

    RodrigoPoloDOTcom RodrigoPoloDOTcom Aug 15, 2015 10:46 AM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom
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    Aug 15, 2015 10:46 AM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom

    FYI: Apple Boot Camp 6 Update for Windows 10 available. 15 days after Windows 10 "release".

    Apple Software Update.png

  • by igmackenzie,

    igmackenzie igmackenzie Aug 16, 2015 4:58 AM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom
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    Aug 16, 2015 4:58 AM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom

    Sadly, this is no help to those of us on pre-2012 Macs!

    Does anyone have any ideas about my post 2 above?  It must be possible to do the workaround process for the 6970M.

  • by Wintermancer,

    Wintermancer Wintermancer Sep 1, 2015 6:39 AM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom
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    Sep 1, 2015 6:39 AM in response to RodrigoPoloDOTcom

    Thankfully, with Windows 10 and the release of bootcamp 6, the AMD drivers have been updated.  I hope that there will be continued updates for some time to come, and not years between driver updates.

  • by igmackenzie,

    igmackenzie igmackenzie Sep 1, 2015 6:44 AM in response to Wintermancer
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    Sep 1, 2015 6:44 AM in response to Wintermancer

    Wintermancer wrote:

     

    Thankfully, with Windows 10 and the release of bootcamp 6, the AMD drivers have been updated.  I hope that there will be continued updates for some time to come, and not years between driver updates.

    As you can see from my post just above yours, this is not true for pre-2012 Macs! 

    I am still trying to get the latest AMD drivers to install on my 2011 iMac.  The AMD auto-detect finds the hardware OK, and downloads the drivers, but when it tries to install them, the usual 'cannot find suitable hardware' type message comes up!

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