When is apple going to fix split stereo files not working in Logic X

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When is apple going to fix split stereo files not working in Logic X

I'm a professional user of Logic since version 1.6. In all of the versions on Logic since they incorporated audio you have been able to edit and work with split stereo files. What idiot thought it was a good idea to get rid of that? Some of us work on consoles and need stereo files to be in even/odd pairs of outputs rather than odd even pairs. Some of us even need to disconnect the split files and edit them separately like we've been able to do in every version of Logic up until 10.0.5. Please fix this in the next update.

Posted on Jul 27, 2015 11:07 AM

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Answer 1

Jul 27, 2015 12:40 PM in response to themusiclabnyc

This is the new procedure in LPX:

LPX will always create an interleaved audio file (Audio Region) when importing a multi-channel audio file that is "formatted". With formatted I mean, a stereo file or any other multi-channel file that uses a surround format (i.e. 5.1). The only exception is if you have a non-formatted multi-channel file, for example a field recorder used in movie production. In that case, Logic extracts the individual channels as individual audio files (Audio Regions). with the option how to place those Regions:

If you have split mono files with the common channel extensions (.L .R .LS .C etc), then Logic will create an interleaved audio file (Audio Region) when you import such a file.

A cumbersome way to extract split-mono files from a stereo file:

Import the file
In the Project Audio Window, control+click on the the Audio File and select "Copy/convert" command. Choose the "Interleaved to Split" option
Very important: don't check the "Add resulting files to Project Audio". This would import the split fils again as an interleaved files.
Another important step: Change the channel extension (.L and .R) on the files after you exported them. Otherwise, Logic would again create an interleaved file upon import
Now finally, import the split mono files into Logic as separate files

Hope that helps

Edgar Rothermich - LogicProGEM.com

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Answer 2

Jul 27, 2015 12:51 PM in response to EdgarRothermich

I know full well the workaround, the point is that *****. There is no good reason for Apple to have stopped properly supporting split files and being able to edit them. They should fix this. It's unprofessional and frankly total ********.

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Pancenter

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Jul 27, 2015 1:22 PM in response to themusiclabnyc

Apple probably considered their past method as "supporting" Pro Tools. Indeed, that's what it was designed for, I think the new crop of users Apple would like to cultivate would have no need for support of anything non-Apple.

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Answer 4

Jul 27, 2015 3:06 PM in response to themusiclabnyc

themusiclabnyc wrote:

They should fix this. It's unprofessional and frankly total ********.

First of all, if Apple did this on purpose and it is not a bug, then I don't think they will follow your reasoning of "fixing" it.

Apple chose to do it this way, maybe for the reason Pancenter pointed out. The only way to convince Apple of your understanding of professional vs. unprofessional, is to get enough professionals behind you and have them all send their opinion via the officialLogic Feedback channel. But even then, I wouldn't get my hopes up.

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Answer 5

Jul 27, 2015 4:56 PM in response to EdgarRothermich

Like I said I've been a Logic user since version 1.6. In the beginning Logic only worked with spit stereo files, interleaved files happened later. For professionals who use a console, this is a giant pita. If they made it so you could assign even /odd output pairs instead of only odd even, it would be reasonable. But even with that, sometimes I get remix jobs where I'll get a pile of interleaved files, the problem often is users in other platforms often send stereo files regardless of if the file really is in stereo or not which is a waste of a channel if it's really in mono. I know it's not a bug but the fact of the matter is pro users often have to deal with files from other platforms, and for the first time they just made it so you can't really use their program to address this. It's not merely supporting Pro Tools it's also supporting Pro users.

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Pancenter

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Jul 27, 2015 9:16 PM in response to themusiclabnyc

themusiclabnyc wrote:

just made it so you can't really use their program to address this. It's not merely supporting Pro Tools it's also supporting Pro users.

I agree completely, but Apple has been moving away from that kind of user for quite some time. They've always preferred a closed system. I've been a Logic user almost as long as you have, a MIDI only version of Logic 2.0, didn't upgrade to an audio until version 3 or 3.5. That kind of support is no longer seen as feasible, pro users are mainly trouble makers. :-) Seriously, the past version releases of Logic (versions 9 and X) had to go through several revisions before becoming stable on Apple's current operating systems. Users have been demoted to beta testers.

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Answer 7

Jul 27, 2015 9:47 PM in response to Pancenter

Pro users are mainly trouble makers. :-)

Surely not?

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Pancenter

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Jul 27, 2015 11:57 PM in response to The Art Of Sound

The Art Of Sound wrote:

Pro users are mainly trouble makers. :-)

<Innocent Look>

Surely not?

You sir, are an exceptional exception! :-)

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Answer 9

Jul 28, 2015 6:34 AM in response to Pancenter

Here's the thing, why remove something that's a real functional tool that has been with the program since it had audio? Whatever imbecile thought this was a good idea should rethink it.

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