External SSD speed vs Thunderbolt 2 Dock on 2011 iMac

I purchased a 500GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD recently to set it up as my boot drive for my mid 2011 iMac...During my research regarding buying a Thunderbolt or Firewire SSD enclosure for it, which looks like there aren't many options for TB enclosures, I've started to look into the Thunderbolt 2 docks offered by Belkin/OWC/Elgato.. Would the speed stay the more or less the same if I have my SSD connected to any of the docks compared to it being directly connected to the iMac? I'm also thinking of cloning my SSD and using it as my primary drive and wondering if I can use the internal HD as an extension for more storage? If so, how can I set this up? Thanks in advance Mid 2011 21.5 iMac, Quad core 2.5GHz i5, 16GB Ram, 10.10.4

Posted on Aug 19, 2015 8:01 AM

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Jul 25, 2017 11:13 PM in response to jsa

just my 10 cents if somebody finds this information useful. in the moment you have a imac and a apple laptop (> 2015 models) and you dont want to use cloud solutions for syncing your data across devices here is my setup. owc thunderbay 4 tb2 dock on the imac 5k 2016 and seagate goflex bus powered tb2 enclosure when mobile on a macbook pro late 2011. i have no problems with speed. you could have problems when video editing and such. i can fully recommend this setup and switching from one device to another takes about 2 min. the owc dock serves as raid/clone data backup so no cloud needed

Aug 25, 2015 8:02 AM in response to jsa

"Yes" is the basic answer to your questions. This is what I have been using for awhile. I have a 2011 27" iMac that was modified by OWC with a SSD and the Apple hard drive in the iMac. 240gb SSD is the main system drive and the stock hard drive for storage. This link from OWC will tell you how to do this. http://blog.macsales.com/24915-splitting-your-data-an-alternative-to-fusion .

I use an OWC Thunderbolt2 dock. and have not seen any slow down of any drive connected to it.

SSD's normally max out around 480 to 500GBs which is well below the bandwidth of Thunderbolt, so there is little to no effect on speed.

I see you have a mid 2011 iMac, the OWC dock will let you now have USB 3.

I don't mean to sound like i'm pushing OWC, I am not affiliated with them, but I have used a lot of there products for over 10 years with no problems.

Aug 25, 2015 8:38 AM in response to Gordon Grotts

Thanks for the reply and link Gordon... I'm planning on ordering the kit from OWC and following their video for installing the SSD into my iMac... Even though the OWC dock provides USB 3, my iMac doesn't come with USB 3 but rather USB 2, want to utilize some of the speed on the iMac which I haven't yet, thus my inquiry to install an SSD and perhaps use a TB dock...

Aug 25, 2015 8:48 AM in response to jsa

I have been looking at similar issues. Basically you're limited by wherever your bottleneck is located. If you have USB2 then that's where it is. You can get really, really fast drives but if it is all getting channeled through USB2 that's the speed you get. In my case I have been thinking about external data storage and figure I don't need more expensive 32MB cache, 6Gb/s, 7200 rpm drives because they will only get USB2 in and out of my '08 MacBook.

Aug 25, 2015 2:04 PM in response to jsa

If you have a thunderbolt port, which you 2011 iMac has, the thunderbolt docks, any brand, will allow you to run USB3. My OWC Thunderbolt dock runs an external SSD at over 400Mb per second. Be sure to download the drivers from OWC or for what ever brand you get. You will not be able to use an external USB3 drive, through the dock, as a start-up drive though because the USB drivers for the dock do not load until the Mac has started up. You need a Mac that came with USB3 to use an external USB3 as a start-up drive.
I hope this helps.

Apr 3, 2016 6:17 AM in response to Gordon Grotts

Hello Gordon Grotts


I know your post is almost a year old but I exactly have the same configuration with js (whom you replied about upgrading to SSD and using it through tunderbolt as booting the OS.


I need to upgrade to SSD and I want to use is as an external drive to run my OS also. But English is not my native language so I want to be sure I understand you correct.


My iMac is Mid 2011, so it supports USB 2.0 and thunderbolt.
I am planning to purchase Sandisk Extreme Pro 480 GB and use it with thunderbolt dock (because of USB2 limitaiton on my iMac) but I cant figure out which thunderbolt dock to go with. I want to benefit the speed of Sandisk Extreme Pro SSD with thunderbolt .. Is that possible or I would be limited with USB 2 in my iMac?


Sorry if I sound like idiot but I am very kowledable on these topics.


Regards,

Enis

Apr 3, 2016 1:31 PM in response to Rudegar

Hello Rudegar,


I am sorry but I am not sure what you mean with your mean.

Although, after reading and searching and searching I think I have a better understanding of what Gordon Grotts mean.


Please correct me if I am wrong:

By going with TB Docks (such as OWC TB Dock 2...) even though my Mid 2011 iMac doesn't support USB 3, I will be able to benefit SSD speed thru thunderbolt connection to my iMac and can even boot up via SSD but not directly via External USB 3.


What I read from the reviews that OWC Thunderbolt Dock 2 has frequent disconnecting problem while working. Also checked Elgato TB Dock Station and some users are complaining that the display port is not working properly and the USB 3.0 ports are slower than expected. Now I am totally confused which direction to go for.


Any suggestions/advices or enlightening responses?


thanks,

Enis

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