Foxy754
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Q: eMac won't boot up.

I just bought an eMac on craigslist. I pressed the power button and I hear the fans turn on. I press and hold until I hear the mac chime and the light in the front light up. I then get the apple logo with the spinning thing under it. This screen doesn't stop. It keeps spinning for long amounts of time. I tried to do an FSCK on it. However, when I get to the screen it wont let me type. The chime also adjusts its volume when it powers on. I reset the PRAM because I always do that when I buy a computer. Any other ideas? I can replace the hard drive if thats the problem. Thanks.

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eMac, Mac OS X (10.4.8), Not sure what OS. Just guessing.

Posted on Aug 21, 2015 9:05 PM

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  • by Allan Jones,

    Allan Jones Allan Jones Aug 22, 2015 10:06 AM in response to Foxy754
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    Aug 22, 2015 10:06 AM in response to Foxy754

    Dear Foxy,

     

    The first thing to check is the serial number. Many later-model eMacs with 1.0 and 1.25 Ghz processors had a fatal logic board problem whsoe repair program has long since expited. There is little chance of getting it working if yours falls in these serial number ranges:

     

    • G8412xxxxxx- G8520xxxxxx
    • YM412xxxxxx - YM520xxxxxx
    • VM440xxxxxx - VM516xxxxxx

     

    You can find your serial number and, more importantly, the exact model, using this article:

     

    eMac: How to locate the serial number and identify your model - Apple Support

     

    If yours is not among the ones with the fatal logic board problem, our knowing your model may help us figure if your has a user-servicealble issue that can get you going again.

     

    Be prepared to return the computer to seller if it shows up in the range of bad serial numbers; the majority of those in those ranges seem to have failed and there is no practical fix available today,

     

    We have two eMacs: one of the first models, a 700mHz model running OS 10.4.11; and one of the last, a 1.42Ghz running 10.5.8. The later is still a capable computer if you don't need the latest and greatest software.

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Aug 22, 2015 10:12 AM in response to Foxy754
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    Aug 22, 2015 10:12 AM in response to Foxy754

    Can you not even hit enter at the last prompt?

     

    If we could enter something then this might work...

     

    chflags 0 "/"

    chmod a+rx "/"

     

    If not then likely a new drive, or perhaps a bootable external drive?

     

    Do you have another PPC Mac with Firewire running 1.4 or 10.5?

  • by Foxy754,

    Foxy754 Foxy754 Aug 22, 2015 10:23 AM in response to BDAqua
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    Aug 22, 2015 10:23 AM in response to BDAqua

    I looked on to bottom (instinctively) and found the model number so I don't even need the serial number. The model number is A1002, which is not under the recall. Its either the 700MHz or 800MHz. I have taken apart a few old iMacs and am not afraid to take this one apart. I bought it for my collection, I would just like to be able to use it. Will a hard drive replacement help? The seller didn't include the power cable that came with it. I can email them and get it, however, I have a few PC power cables laying around of you think they will work. Thats what I had plugged into it last night.

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Aug 22, 2015 10:56 AM in response to Foxy754
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    Aug 22, 2015 10:56 AM in response to Foxy754

    Power cable shouldn't matter if it fits.

     

    Drive replacement should work, the problem appears to be that the drive has slipped into Read Only, could likely be fixed with a FW cable & booting into Firewire Target Mode.

     

    eMacs are not only more dangerous to work on, they're way harder than iMacs... so be careful.

  • by Foxy754,

    Foxy754 Foxy754 Aug 22, 2015 2:35 PM in response to BDAqua
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    Aug 22, 2015 2:35 PM in response to BDAqua

    How would I do the firewire target mode? I am more interested in that. I know they are dangerous to work on if I go anywhere near the TFT. How would you purpose that I type on it? Sorry. I have a lot of questions.

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Aug 22, 2015 5:08 PM in response to Foxy754
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    Aug 22, 2015 5:08 PM in response to Foxy754

    You'd connect it to another Mac via a FW cable, then boot the eMac holding t key down, you should see a big floating FW symbol & the eMac will appear as a FW drive on the other Mac.

  • by Foxy754,

    Foxy754 Foxy754 Aug 23, 2015 7:13 AM in response to BDAqua
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    Aug 23, 2015 7:13 AM in response to BDAqua

    What will I do after that?

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Aug 23, 2015 10:27 AM in response to BDAqua
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    Aug 23, 2015 10:27 AM in response to BDAqua

    .

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Aug 23, 2015 10:29 AM in response to Foxy754
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    Aug 23, 2015 10:29 AM in response to Foxy754

    Then we can use Disk Utility or Terminal to affect changes in the eMac's drive. Let's see if it gets far enough to show as a FW drive on the other Mac.

  • by Foxy754,

    Foxy754 Foxy754 Aug 23, 2015 2:54 PM in response to BDAqua
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    Aug 23, 2015 2:54 PM in response to BDAqua

    Okay. I went to a local store and they didn't have a Firewire 400 to a Firewire 400. That is what I'm looking for right? I am looking to boot it off of my iMac 4G. I have decided to collect old apple computers off of craigslist. It is currently having some problems but I am looking into fixing them. (You can read about it to get the specs here... Re: When iMac G4 Boots up everything loads then I get a blue screen)

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Aug 23, 2015 3:53 PM in response to Foxy754
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    Aug 23, 2015 3:53 PM in response to Foxy754

    Yes FW400<->FW400...

     

    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/1394A66036BL/

     

    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/1394A66036/

  • by Foxy754,

    Foxy754 Foxy754 Sep 22, 2015 8:17 PM in response to BDAqua
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    Sep 22, 2015 8:17 PM in response to BDAqua

    I installed OS X 10.4.0 on a hard drive, then I went in and replaced the hard drive. I resembled it, and then tried to power on. I get 4 beeps. Then I get nothingness. The screen won't turn on. The light is constantly on until I hold the power button. It will then flash 3 times and turn off. I do not get the mac start up chime and the CRT does not light up.

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua Sep 23, 2015 9:43 AM in response to Foxy754
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    Sep 23, 2015 9:43 AM in response to Foxy754

    Older meanings...

     

    1 beep = no RAM installed

    2 beeps = incompatible RAM types

    3 beeps = no good banks

    4 beeps = no good boot images in the boot ROM (and/or bad sys config block)

    5 beeps = processor is not usable

     

    In addition to the beeps, on some computers the power LED will flash a corresponding number of times plus one. The LED will repeat the sequence after approximately a 5-second pause. The tones are only played once.

     

    Note: In this case, a flash is considered to be 1/4 second or 250 ms or greater in length.

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1547

  • by Foxy754,

    Foxy754 Foxy754 Sep 24, 2015 7:34 AM in response to BDAqua
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    Sep 24, 2015 7:34 AM in response to BDAqua

    I believe it beeps 4 times. Should I take the drive out, wipe it, and then put it back in? It lags with the beeping so it could either be 3 or 4.

     

    Thanks!

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