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Added ASUS RT-AC68U for wifi, want to keep TC for backup

just added ASUS RT-AC68U router to use for wifi but want to keep my TC for backup. I have seen some descriptions of how to do this but there was a lot of extraneous info that was confusing. The ASUS is currently running and the TC has been disconnected from the modem. Can anyone walk me through the process? It seems putting the TC into bridge mode is important. Thanks.

MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2009), OS X Yosemite (10.10.4)

Posted on Aug 26, 2015 5:18 PM

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Aug 26, 2015 5:31 PM in response to wiscorama

Yes.. plug the WAN port of TC into any Asus LAN port.


Then reset the TC to factory.. I recommend the following for yosemite.. which has some considerable issues on networks.


You might have looked at this and considered it..


a lot of extraneous info that was confusing


However.. it is important if you want Yosemite to work in any way that approaches reliable.

Start from a factory reset. No files are lost on the hard disk doing this.

Factory reset universal

Power off the TC.. ie pull the power cord or power off at the wall.. wait 10sec.. hold in the reset button.. be gentle.. power on again still holding in reset.. and keep holding it in for another 10sec. You may need some help as it is hard to both hold in reset and apply power. It will show success by rapidly blinking the front led. Release the reset.. and wait a couple of min for the TC to reset and come back with factory settings. If the front LED doesn’t blink rapidly you missed it and simply try again. The reset is fairly fragile in these.. press it so you feel it just click and no more.. I have seen people bend the lever or even break it. I use a toothpick as tool.

N.B. None of your files on the hard disk of the TC are deleted.. this simply clears out the router settings of the TC.


Setup the TC again.


Then redo the setup from the computer with Yosemite.

1. Use very short names.. NOT APPLE RECOMMENDED names. No spaces and pure alphanumerics.

eg TCgen5 for basestation and TCwifi wireless name.



If the issue is wireless use TC24ghz and TC5ghz with fixed channels as this also seems to help stop the nonsense. But this can be tried in the second round. ie plan on a first and second round of changes to fix this.. hopefully.. I will point out other steps that can be round2.


2. Use all passwords that also comply with 1. but can be a bit longer. ie 8-20 characters mixed case and numbers.. no non-alphanumerics.


3. If the TC is main router you can skip this point. This is only an issue when the TC is bridged.

Ensure the TC always takes the same IP address.. you will need to do this on the main router using dhcp reservation.. or a bit more complex setup using static IP in the TC. But this is important.. having IP drift all over the place when Yosemite cannot remember its own name for 5 min after a reboot makes for poor networking.


4. Check your share name on the computer is not changing.. make sure it also complies with the above.. short no spaces and pure alphanumeric.. but this change will mess up your TM backup.. so be prepared to do a new full backup. Sorry.. keep this one for second round if you want to avoid a new backup.


5. Mount the TC disk in the computer manually.


In Finder, Go, Connect to server from the top menu,

Type in SMB://192.168.0.254 (or whatever the TC ip is which you have now made static. As a router by default it is 10.0.1.1 and I encourage people to stick with that unless you know what you are doing).


You can use name.. SMB://TCgen5.local where you replace TCgen5 with your TC name.. local is the default domain of the TC and doesn't change.

However names are not so easy as IP address.. nor as reliable. At least not in Yosemite they aren't. The domain can also be an issue if you are not plugged or wireless directly to the TC.


6. Make sure IPv6 is set to link-local only in the computer. For example wireless open the network preferences, wireless and advanced / TCP/IP.. and fix the IPv6. to link-local only. Do the same for ethernet if you use it.





There is a lot more jiggery pokery you can try but the above is a good start.. if you find it still unreliable.. don't be surprised.

You might need to do some more work on the computer itself. eg Reset the PRAM.. has helped some people. Clean install of the OS is also helpful if you upgrade installed.


Tell us how you go.



Someone posted a solution.. See this thread.


Macbook can't find Time Capsule anymore


Start from the bottom and work up.. I have a list of good network practice changes but I have avoided Yosemites bug heaven.



Yosemite has serious DNS bug in the networking application.. here is the lets say more arcane method of fixing it by doing a network transplant from mavericks.


http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/01/why-dns-in-os-x-10-10-is-broken-and-what-yo u-can-do-to-fix-it/

I did not state in all of that how to do bridge..


Bridge should be automagically selected by the airport setup wizard when you go through it.. check afterwards by simply looking at the errors.. if it shows double NAT then it got it wrong.


Let me add a couple of other things.


For reliable backups the Mac should connect to the TC not the Asus. If you do all of the above.. get it working and running backups and then find Yosemite TM keeps losing the TC.. talk to me as this is a problem of how poor Yosemite DNS is.

Aug 27, 2015 1:37 PM in response to wiscorama

If there was a hugely simple way I assure you I would not give you a heap of instructions.


For laptop backups the TC is ideal.. but Apple has made the TC so difficult to configure and the setup is supposed to be exclusive.. not shared with other brands that you can have trouble.


Any setup you try will work for a day or two after setup.. the problem is you will be back shortly after with a lot of frustration that it is unreliable. Networking on Yosemite is unreliable. You need to tweak the network just right for it to stay afloat.


To avoid the complexity.. do backups to USB or Firewire drive plugged into your Mac. It is faster and more reliable.


Or take the plunge into the world of 3rd party backup software.. Carbon Copy Cloner or Chronosync.


Plug a USB drive into the Asus and see how you go.. I think it even supports Time Machine.. but I would not recommend it.. TM is obtuse enough without adding USB drives hanging off non-apple routers to the mix.


http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1004458/


However setting up TM means you can easily get CCC to work.


I must have a go at this myself to get some numbers. It should be relatively easy.

Added ASUS RT-AC68U for wifi, want to keep TC for backup

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