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Q: MainStage 3.2 hangs at "Loading Plugins"

I had "automatic updates" turned on (no longer, I've since changed that).  With automatic updates turned on, MainStage 3.2 got installed.  At first I was able to load my concert file, at least the very first time.  I opened the concert file, made a few small changes (normal kinds of things), and then I saved the concert and closed MainStage 3.2.  This is where the trouble began.  The next time I tried to load the concert, MainStage 3.2 hangs indefinitely at "Loading Plugins".  I let it sit for about 20 minutes, it never loaded the concert.  I am able to load smaller concerts, but the one I use most of the time is large, and I can't load that concert now with version 3.2.  I've used MainStage 3.1.1 for quite some time with no issues.  I have an iMac with 2 internal drives, a 250GB SSD (the Mac OS 10.9.5 and all my apps live there), and a 1TB hard drive with all my audio samples.  I have 110GB free space on my SSD, and 725GB free on my hard drive.  I have 16GB of RAM on this machine.  So as you can tell, it's a well built machine.  I've used it for 3 years now with no major issues with MainStage.  However, now with version 3.2, I can't load my main concert file, it just hangs at "Loading Plugins".  With this problem, I've restored from a backup, going back to version 3.1.1.  After my restore to 3.1.1, now everything works great.  Has anyone else had problems with loading concerts using 3.2?

iMac, OS X Mavericks (10.9.5)

Posted on Aug 27, 2015 9:26 AM

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  • by chriscarrington,

    chriscarrington chriscarrington Aug 27, 2015 1:02 PM in response to WSFKeys
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    Aug 27, 2015 1:02 PM in response to WSFKeys

    I am having a similar issue, but have been able to get some concerts loaded. 

    How did you go about re installing mainstage 3.1 from your backup?  I have 3.1 backed up as well.

    Thanks

  • by WSFKeys,

    WSFKeys WSFKeys Aug 27, 2015 1:47 PM in response to chriscarrington
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    Aug 27, 2015 1:47 PM in response to chriscarrington

    Hi Chris,

     

    I'm experiencing the same thing, where smaller concerts will load, but not my larger concert.  Regarding how I resolved my issue (by restoring a previous version of MainStage), twice per week I perform a complete backup of my iMac using Time Machine.  To restore my MainStage to version 3.1.1, I did a complete restore of my solid state drive (SSD), which for me is where MainStage is installed.  Here is more info on how to restore your hard drive from a Time Machine backup:

     

    http://www.imore.com/how-set-and-restore-time-machine-backup

     

    In Summary:

    1. Power up your Mac and hold down the Command and R keys to enter the OS X Recovery Partition. Your Mac should boot to a screen that says OS X Utilities.

    2. Select Restore from Time Machine Backup and click Continue.  Read the info on the Restore Your System page and click Continue.

    3. Select your Time Machine backup and click Continue.

    4. Select the most recent backup of your hard disk and click Continue. Your Mac will then restore the Time Machine backup; once it's done it will restart.

     

    Still, I would like to know from Apple why MainStage version 3.2 hangs on "Loading Plugins".  Hopefully this is something that is fixed soon.

  • by chriscarrington,

    chriscarrington chriscarrington Aug 27, 2015 7:56 PM in response to WSFKeys
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    Aug 27, 2015 7:56 PM in response to WSFKeys

    Thanks  WSFKeys.  Sometimes my bigger projects will load, sometimes they wont, and sometimes they load blank or default versions of a plugin patch.  It seems like it loads plugins once and then tries to do it again, and  a weird "converting" message comes up as well.

    I suspect this is a case of a super buggy update and hopefuly they will fix it soon.   I recall that MS 3.0 was very buggy as well, basically unusable, and everyone went back to vs.2 until they fixed 3.  

    I dont know if I want to reinstall my whole system just to get mainstage 3.1 back, but maybe thats the only way, given that these DAW apps put so many different files in so many different places.  Best of luck to you and thank you for your help.

  • by Musical Stuff,

    Musical Stuff Musical Stuff Aug 28, 2015 2:17 PM in response to WSFKeys
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    Aug 28, 2015 2:17 PM in response to WSFKeys

    I got a more immediate problem, after the MainStage 3.2 update was forced on me (I've not worked out yet where to turn this off). After updating, it claimed that all my concert files were corrupted, and asked me to restore them from a backup. This cost me about 45 minutes of rehearsal time this evening with the band waiting around for me to solve it! The solution, after reading here, was to go back to the previous version by restoring from TimeMachine. I didn't have to restore the entire SSD; I simply went back a few days and selected the MainStage application from the applications folder within TimeMachine; this seems to have restored only MainStage without touching anything else, which is perfect. So I'm very impressed with TimeMachine, and very annoyed with MainStage, the new version of which is totally unuseable, at least for me.

  • by pietlogic,

    pietlogic pietlogic Aug 29, 2015 2:00 AM in response to WSFKeys
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    Aug 29, 2015 2:00 AM in response to WSFKeys

    Similar problems here (OSX 10.5 latest drivers etc.). I play in 2 bands. One concert set worked right from the start. Another more complex with different and more complex routings etc worked NOT. And now the strange thing/solution. I'm also El Capitan beta testing and.... in the latest version of 10.11  it was possible to startup the 'corrupt' version. I saved it and re opened this version in 10.5.... and YES it works again.......??? So there was maybe a bad 'update > conversion' to MainStage 10.2.

  • by musicminister7,

    musicminister7 musicminister7 Aug 31, 2015 11:20 PM in response to WSFKeys
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    Aug 31, 2015 11:20 PM in response to WSFKeys

    I am having the same issue.  I can open files with eight channels or so, but my files with twenty or so won't open.  It takes a while for the plugins to load and then I get a message saying that the file is not compatible and to load it again from a backup.  This is super bad. 

  • by Rickardius,

    Rickardius Rickardius Sep 1, 2015 6:27 AM in response to WSFKeys
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    Sep 1, 2015 6:27 AM in response to WSFKeys

    I have the same problem after updating I can not load concerts with many channels. It stops at "loading plugins" an then MainStage don´t answer anymore. This is BAD!!!!

    I must try to reinstall MainStage and I hope they will fix this soon..

  • by casenuno,

    casenuno casenuno Sep 1, 2015 5:44 PM in response to Rickardius
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    Sep 1, 2015 5:44 PM in response to Rickardius

    Same with me!

  • by yamansitar,

    yamansitar yamansitar Sep 3, 2015 6:22 AM in response to WSFKeys
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    Sep 3, 2015 6:22 AM in response to WSFKeys

    when backing up from external hard drive [time m/c]  dose it back up every thing as i just what to back up MainStage  3,1,1  thanks

  • by yamansitar,

    yamansitar yamansitar Sep 3, 2015 6:24 AM in response to WSFKeys
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    Sep 3, 2015 6:24 AM in response to WSFKeys

    this is a mess ,,,why don't apple try all this out before changing to 3.2    i wish i had my old one back

  • by Musical Stuff,

    Musical Stuff Musical Stuff Sep 3, 2015 6:40 AM in response to chriscarrington
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    Sep 3, 2015 6:40 AM in response to chriscarrington

    When backing up your Mac (from your local drive to your external drive) using Time Machine, everything gets backed up, apps and data.

    When restoring it, using Time Machine, you don't have to restore everything. You can just restore the bit you want. In my case, I only wanted to restore the MainStage app itself, so I scrolled back in time to before the upgrade was applied (a couple of weeks was enough), then found the applications folder and selected the MainStage application to restore. This restored my application without overwriting newer versions of data files (such as documents, concerts etc.).

     

    So I ended up very impressed with TimeMachine, and very annoyed with MainStage, the new version of which is totally unuseable, at least for me.

  • by Procman,

    Procman Procman Sep 4, 2015 4:07 AM in response to Musical Stuff
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    Sep 4, 2015 4:07 AM in response to Musical Stuff

    Yes. Mainstage 3.2 is totally unuseable !  (a pity from Apple).  The proble mis that if you save with the 3.2 version  (after only one day of work), you won't be able to open the concerts (or patches) with the 3.1.1 after maker a downgrade from 3.2 to 3.1.1  .

    Somm issue I noted: 1)Playback screen doesn't shaw the wave. 2)Some command with a midi (by USB) NanoPad doesn't work anymore  3) display bugs  (overprint of some text like LSB / MSB bank)  4) Patch change  (with LSB/MSB) not sended in my Motif XS.

    Like Musicl Stuff, I'm  "very impressed with TimeMachine, and very annoyed with MainStage 3.2  "    For "professional" use It's unacceptable.

    Apple should advise to stay in 3.1.1 until the 3.2.1 appears.  Thanks in advance.

  • by radsdau,

    radsdau radsdau Sep 12, 2015 8:37 PM in response to Procman
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    Sep 12, 2015 8:37 PM in response to Procman

    Yeah, same here.  This is poor form from Apple, I agree.  I really hope they're onto this urgently.

     

    My default concert hangs the machine, but another smaller one I use for bass FX works ok.  Who knows what is going on behind the scenes.



    Bring on an update, Apple guys!!

  • by riciiblitz,

    riciiblitz riciiblitz Sep 17, 2015 4:09 AM in response to Musical Stuff
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    Sep 17, 2015 4:09 AM in response to Musical Stuff

    hi...this is horrible...

    can i go back to mainstage 3.1.1 if i dont have time machine installed on my macbook?

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