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While cleaning up my hard drive, CleanMyMac 3 wants me to delete backup copies of my iOS apps stored in iTunes, is this a good idea?

I have a 24" mid-2007 iMac intel, 2.4 GHz core 2 duo, 4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM, 350 GB hard drive.


Several months ago I literately ran out of HD space on this iMac. I cleaned as much junk off as possible and have been keeping up the cleaning on a regular basis. I now have nearly 80 GB of free space.


I ran my cleaning program again this afternoon and it required that I decide if I would like to delete from iTunes, nearly 8 GB of stored backup copies of my iOS apps for my iPhone/iPad.


I've looked around, and it sounds like I can sign into my iTunes account and find my purchased apps there if I wanted to put them on any of my devices. I don't keep copies of all of my apps on my devices all of the time because they take up too much space, and sometimes I'm not using them enough to carry them around with me.


My Concern is that if I go ahead and delete these backup copies, I will loose my apps. I just want to know that these have nothing to do with the original copies I purchased, and that I can absolutely sign in to my account (iTunes) and have access to them at any time.

iMac, OS X Yosemite (10.10.5), Mid-2007

Posted on Aug 27, 2015 2:32 PM

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Posted on Aug 27, 2015 2:33 PM

Nothing, absolutely nothing about CleanMyMac is a good idea.

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Aug 27, 2015 8:58 PM in response to resmalls

How to maintain a Mac

Make two or more backups of all your files

One backup is not enough to be safe. A copy of a backup doesn't count as another backup; all backups must be made directly from the original data.

Keep at least one backup off site at all times in case of disaster. Backing up to a cloud-data service is one way to accomplish this, but don't rely exclusively on such backups.

In fact, don’t rely exclusively on any single backup method, such as Time Machine.

If you get an indication that a backup has failed, don't ignore it.

Keep your software up to date

In the App Store or Software Update preference pane (depending on the OS version), you can configure automatic notifications of updates to OS X and other Mac App Store products. Some third-party applications from other sources have a similar feature, if you don’t mind letting them phone home. Otherwise you have to check yourself on a regular basis.

Keeping up to date is especially important for complex software that modifies the operating system, such as device drivers. Don't install such modifications unless they're absolutely necessary. Remove them when they are no longer needed. Before installing any Apple update, you must check that all system modifications that you use are compatible. Incompatibility with third-party software is by far the most common cause of difficulties with system updates.

Don't install crapware

...such as “themes,” "haxies," “add-ons,” “toolbars,” “enhancers," “optimizers,” “accelerators,” "boosters," “extenders,” “cleaners,” "doctors," "tune-ups," “defragmenters,” “firewalls,” "barriers," “guardians,” “defenders,” “protectors,” most “plugins,” commercial "virus scanners,” "disk tools," or "utilities." With very few exceptions, such stuff is useless or worse than useless. Above all, avoid any software that purports to change the look and feel of the user interface.

It's not much of an exaggeration to say that the whole "utility" software industry for the Mac is a fraud on consumers. The most extreme examples are the "CleanMyMac," "TuneUpMyMac," and “MacKeeper” scams, but there are many others.

As a rule, you should avoid software that changes the way other software works. Plugins for Photoshop and similar programs are an obvious exception to this rule. Safari extensions, and perhaps the equivalent for other web browsers, are a partial exception. Most are safe, and they're easy to get rid of if they don't work. Some may cause the browser to crash or otherwise malfunction. Some are malicious. Use with caution, and install only well-known extensions from relatively trustworthy sources, such as the Safari Extensions Gallery.

Only install software that is useful to you, not (as you imagine) to the computer. For example, a word processor is useful for writing. A video editor is useful for making movies. A game is useful for fun. But a "cache cleaner" isn't useful for anything. You didn't buy a computer so you could clean caches.

Never install any third-party software unless you know how to uninstall it. Otherwise you may create problems that are very hard to solve. Do not rely on "utilities" such as "AppCleaner" and the like that purport to remove software.

Don't install bad, conflicting, or unnecessary fonts

Whenever you install new fonts, use the validation feature of the built-in Font Book application to make sure the fonts aren't defective and don't conflict with each other or with others that you already have. See the built-in help and this support article for instructions.

Deactivate or remove fonts that you don't really need to speed up application launching.

Avoid malware

"Malware" is malicious software that circulates on the Internet. This kind of attack on OS X was once so rare that it was hardly a concern, but it's now increasingly common and dangerous.

There is some built-in protection against malware, but you can’t rely on it—the attackers are always at least one day ahead of the defense. You can’t rely on third-party "anti-virus" products for protection either. What you can rely on is common-sense awareness—not paranoia, which only makes you more vulnerable.

Never install software from an untrustworthy or unknown source. If in doubt, do some research. Any website that prompts you to install a “codec” or “plugin” that comes from the same site, or an unknown site, is untrustworthy. Software with a corporate brand, such as Adobe Flash Player, must come directly from the developer's website. No intermediary is acceptable, and don’t trust links unless you know how to parse them. Any file that is automatically downloaded from the web, without your having requested it, should go straight into the Trash. A web page that tells you that your computer has a “virus,” or that anything else is wrong with it, is a scam.

In OS X 10.7.5 or later, downloaded applications and Installer packages that have not been digitally signed by a developer registered with Apple are blocked from loading by default. The block can be overridden, but think carefully before you do so.

Because of recurring security issues in Java, it’s best to disable it in your web browsers, if it’s installed. Few websites have Java content nowadays, so you won’t be missing much. This action is mandatory if you’re running any version of OS X older than 10.6.8 with the latest Java update. Note: Java has nothing to do with JavaScript, despite the similar names. Don't install Java unless you're sure you need it. Most people don't.

Don't fill up your disk or SSD

A common mistake is adding more and more large files to your home folder until you start to get warnings that you're out of space, which may be followed in short order by a startup failure. This is more prone to happen on the newer Macs that come with an internal SSD instead of the traditional hard drive. The drive can be very nearly full before you become aware of the problem.

While it's not true that you should or must keep any particular percentage of space free, you should monitor your storage use and make sure you're not in immediate danger of using it up. According to Apple documentation, you need at least 9 GB of free space on the startup volume for normal operation.

If storage space is running low, use a tool such as OmniDiskSweeperto explore the volume and find out what's taking up the most space. Move seldom-used large files to secondary storage.

Relax, don’t do it

Besides the above, no routine maintenance is necessary or beneficial for the vast majority of users; specifically not “cleaning caches,” “zapping the PRAM,” "resetting the SMC," “rebuilding the directory,” "defragmenting the drive," “running periodic scripts,” “dumping logs,” "deleting temp files," “scanning for viruses,” "purging memory," "checking for bad blocks," "testing the hardware," or “repairing permissions.” Such measures are either completely pointless or are useful only for solving problems, not for prevention.

To use a Mac effectively, you have to free yourself from the Windows mindset that every computer needs regular downtime for maintenance such as "defragging" and "registry cleaning." Those concepts do not apply to the Mac platform.

A well-designed computing device is not something you should have to think about much. It should be an almost transparent medium through which you communicate, work, and play. If you want a machine that needs a lot of attention just to keep going, use a PC, or collect antique cars.

The very height of futility is running an expensive third-party application called “Disk Warrior” when nothing is wrong, or even when something is wrong and you have backups, which you must have. Disk Warrior is a data-salvage tool, not a maintenance tool, and you will never need it if your backups are adequate. Don’t waste money on it or anything like it.

Aug 28, 2015 5:05 PM in response to resmalls

My Concern is that if I go ahead and delete these backup copies, I will loose my apps. I just want to know that these have nothing to do with the original copies I purchased, and that I can absolutely sign in to my account (iTunes) and have access to them at any time.


That is only an option so long as the app developer maintains the status required to maintain app availability from the App Store. There is no guarantee your apps will remain available from the App Store forever. If they become removed for whatever reason, the only backups will be those you maintain on your Mac (and its backup — which you should also maintain).


If you insist upon doing so despite the above cautions, deleting iOS device backups can be performed easily enough using iTunes.


Darn! What should I do to keep my computer healthy then?


For one, do not use "cleaning" products or anything even remotely resembling that category. The sheer volume of problems reported on this site as the direct result of their use has beaten a very well-worn path to misery.


Remove CleanMyMac 3 according to the following:



To remove CleanMyMac 3 itself, use its Uninstaller module, followed by these additional steps:


Remove the file ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.macpaw.CleanMyMac3.Scheduler.plist

  • To navigate to that file, copy and paste the following line into the Finder's Go menu > Go To Folder...

~/Library/LaunchAgents/

  • Locate the following file and drag it to the Trash:
  • com.macpaw.CleanMyMac3.Scheduler.plist

    • Then, open  (Apple menu) > System Preferences > Users & Groups > Login Items.
    • Select the item CleanMyMac3 Menu
    • Click the [—] (minus) button.
    • Restart your Mac.


    Beware that reinstalling OS X alone will have no effect on either removing CleanMyMac or reversing the damage it is capable of inflicting upon a system. To recover from the effects of having used it to modify OS X, the additional software you require and the essential files you may need follow the applicable recovery procedure below:


    • If you have a backup that you created prior to using CleanMyMac, now is the time to use it. For Time Machine, boot OS X Recovery, and at the Mac OS X Utilities screen, choose Restore from Time Machine Backup. Choose a date preceding the installation of CleanMyMac.
    • If you do not have a backup that predates the use of CleanMyMac, create one now. To do that read Mac Basics: Time Machine backs up your Mac.
      • The recovery procedure will require that you erase the Mac using OS X Recovery, and then create a new user whose contents will be empty. You will then be able to use Setup Assistant to migrate your essential documents including photos, music, work products and other essential files.
      • When doing so, select only your previous User account and do not select "Applications", "Computer and Network Settings" or "Other files and folders". De-select those choices.
      • Subsequent to using Setup Assistant, you will need to reinstall the essential software you may require, once again remembering to install software only from their original sources, and omitting all non-essential software.
      • "Non-essential software" is a broad category that includes but is not limited to third party "cleaning", "maintenance", and "anti-virus" products.


    To erase and install Yosemite read: OS X Yosemite: Erase and reinstall OS X


    To migrate your essential documents read: OS X Yosemite: Transfer your info from a computer or storage device and follow the procedure under Transfer info from a Time Machine backup or other storage device.

    Aug 28, 2015 5:14 PM in response to resmalls

    Should you ever encounter the following dialog, you should act upon it:


    User uploaded file

    Do not ignore that message. If you do though, you will eventually see the following:


    User uploaded file


    When that occurs your Mac has exhausted a number of increasingly desperate measures to free the minimum amount of space so that it can continue to work. If you continue to ignore those messages you may not be able to boot your Mac at all.

    To increase disk space read OS X Yosemite: Increase disk space.

    Oct 12, 2015 9:15 PM in response to resmalls

    ask yourself, where did i get cleanmymac? did i pay for it at the app store? or did i get an invitation to use/buy it from any other app i am using free or paid at the app store? why?


    i had a recent call with apple tech support under my warranty, thank god i have one! i had a lot of scratches to my scalp when i'd open up cleanmymac, for instance, why would the program want to remove my attachments to emails? they might be photos! i did not feel secure when i read up on that part of the app either. all i ended up doing with it was going to the dashboard at the top of the main screen to clean/regain RAM. so when the tech asked me how i got it, i thought perhaps while using my evaluation copy or purchased copy of macpaw duplicate remover. (which is good because if you back up your files to a WD MyCloud external hard drive, eventually, you have TONSA copies of both music and photo files!


    the tech was getting at that this program is ADWARE. that i poisoned my computing environment by having even put it onto my drive. you should trash it.


    if you want a good cleaner when you are running slow on RAM overage, get it here: www.piriform.com, the program called Ccleaner for Mac. be sure it is FOR MAC.


    i'm a heavy user usually having two browsers and many tabs within them open. so i KNOW i jam up my measly 16gb of RAM. when i had a windows xp computer by dell, i used that program (get it from the program writers, not the first hyperlink you see on the returns page when you search for an app/program, since so much malware and adware is out there. the safest place to download apps is always at the manufacturer's/programmer's website. the only other one i trust in the us is filliphippo.


    if i lived inside of you, i wouldn't trust that damned program to perform any of its tweets and tasks. don't. don't do what you are asking whether you should do, or not do, using that crappy adware. do yourself a favor and spend that time trashing that program.


    mucho lucko! 😎

    Oct 12, 2015 10:12 PM in response to Igora the Terrible

    if you want a good cleaner when you are running slow on RAM overage, get it here: www.piriform.com, the program called Ccleaner for Mac. be sure it is FOR MAC.


    As mentioned several times here, so called "cleaners" are NOT needed - it doesn't matter what their name is. Neither is any product by macpaw.


    the only other one i trust in the us is filliphippo.


    There are only two safe places for downloads: the app store or a trusted developer's site. Most sites offering "free" downloads include unwanted additions. The site you recommended offers uTorrent for instance - that is not recommended at all.

    While cleaning up my hard drive, CleanMyMac 3 wants me to delete backup copies of my iOS apps stored in iTunes, is this a good idea?

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