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Q: MainStage 3.2 claiming concerts are corrupt

I've been using 3.1.1 for a long time, in live gigs, very successfully, and today I was forced to download the 3.2 update (didn't know how at the time to turn this off - I think I've since found out how). When I ran it, it claimed all of my concerts were corrupted, and requested me to restore them from backups. This was bad advice, as they weren't corrupt, as I proved when I eventually managed to roll back to 3.1.1 using Time Machine, which then worked perfectly with these concerts. So there appears to be some incompatibility in file formats (not backwardly compatible) between 3.1.1 and 3.2. This is a major problem for me, and makes 3.2 unuseable for me, as it can't read my concerts that I've built in 3.1.1.

 

So my questions are:

(a) is there some way of getting MainStage 3.2 to accept concert files generated by 3.1.1, possibly by running some kind of upgrade utility on them?

(b) If the answer to (a) is no, then are there any plans to provide one in the future, or alternatively to patch 3.2 so that it can read concert files from 3.1.1?

 

Until this evening I'd been incredibly impressed with the power of MainStage, having used it successfully to process sound for multiple keyboards and guitars in gigs. It feels like this hasn't been tested properly, which is a real shame; I'd like to use the new features like Alchemy but I can't without rebuilding my entire set list from scratch, and that is not going to happen.

 

I don't think it's relevant, but following the guidelines, I'm using:

 

  Yosemite        10.10.5 (completely up to date I think)

  Model Name:    MacBook Pro, 15 inch, mid-2014

  Model Identifier:    MacBookPro11,3

  Processor Name:    Intel Core i7

  Processor Speed:    2.5 GHz

  Number of Processors:    1

  Total Number of Cores:    4

  L2 Cache (per Core):    256 KB

  L3 Cache:    6 MB

  Memory:    16 GB

  Boot ROM Version:    MBP112.0138.B15

  SMC Version (system):    2.19f12

 

- Cameron

MainStage, OS X Yosemite (10.10.5), MainStage 3.2

Posted on Aug 28, 2015 2:34 PM

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  • by Authentic Identity,

    Authentic Identity Authentic Identity Aug 29, 2015 8:17 AM in response to Musical Stuff
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    Aug 29, 2015 8:17 AM in response to Musical Stuff

    Yeah...I was dumb and upgraded when I know better...

     

    It's loading concerts from 3.1.1 for me...but it will not retain my Lyrics/chords in the text window, and it won't retain the Waveform's association with the playback plugins. I had over 100 patches with lyrics typed into each one that was being automated by Logic. e

     

    All of those patches are now blank. I've retyped them in, saved and backed them up...nothing.

  • by ap_nc,

    ap_nc ap_nc Aug 30, 2015 8:26 AM in response to Authentic Identity
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    Aug 30, 2015 8:26 AM in response to Authentic Identity

    Me too. Says concerts are damaged. Curiously it opened one but not the rest.

     

    Had to roll back to 3.1.1

  • by Mac-nl,

    Mac-nl Mac-nl Aug 30, 2015 5:14 PM in response to ap_nc
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    Aug 30, 2015 5:14 PM in response to ap_nc

    Same problem here.

    if i load an old file.. No problem..

    but if i save iT in 3.2 and load iT again... Corrupt file.

    is Apple going to fix This???

    And how long iTS gonna take normaly??

  • by MIDImogul,

    MIDImogul MIDImogul Aug 30, 2015 6:03 PM in response to Musical Stuff
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    Aug 30, 2015 6:03 PM in response to Musical Stuff

    I am having the same problem.

     

    Upgraded to MS 3.2.

     

    Concert created in most recent previous version will not load with the error message, "The document 'Name of My Concert' could not be opened. The file isn't in the correct format. Please restore it from a backup"

     

    I "fixed" a copy of the concert per the instructions in Brian Li's blog.

     

    The old concert now loads but the entire Workspace is gone--I have a large and complex rig. Recreating would be time-prohibitive and require testing every patch (over 200).

     

    I tried to restore prior version from Time Machine and the icon has a strike symbol across the MS icon.

     

    MS has always been glitchy but I have used on hundreds of gigs with only three crashes. This, however, is a deal breaker.

     

    Apple, please aggressively pursue the fix for this "Pro" app as we pros are losing money waiting.

     

    Mac Mini Late 2012

    OS X 10.10.5

    2.6Ghz I7

    16GB ram

    128 GB SSD

  • by Guillermo Ángel,

    Guillermo Ángel Guillermo Ángel Aug 31, 2015 7:36 AM in response to MIDImogul
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    Aug 31, 2015 7:36 AM in response to MIDImogul

    Tengo exactamente este mismo problema. En mi caso particular, uso los archivos en dos computadoras, una de ellas con la versión 3.1.1 y la otra con la 3.2. Lo "extraño" es que mi problema comenzó en la computadora que tiene la versión 3.1.1 de Mainstage. Ahora no puedo abrir ninguno de mis archivos en ninguna de las dos  computadoras.

  • by rc tech,

    rc tech rc tech Aug 31, 2015 4:55 PM in response to MIDImogul
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    Aug 31, 2015 4:55 PM in response to MIDImogul

    Do you have a copy of your concert that doesn't open? If you can post it somewhere, it might be able to be massaged a bit to get it open.

     

    As for downgrading the software, if you're unable to retrieve it through time machine, maybe you have a copy on another computer? Restoring through time machine should work, but maybe you can try restoring it again from a different date.

  • by musicminister7,

    musicminister7 musicminister7 Aug 31, 2015 11:24 PM in response to Musical Stuff
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    Aug 31, 2015 11:24 PM in response to Musical Stuff

    Me too. Same exact problem.  I can open small files, but not my large concerts...the ones I actually use. I can't start from scratch.  We're talking years of tweaking Apple.

  • by MIDImogul,

    MIDImogul MIDImogul Sep 1, 2015 9:08 AM in response to rc tech
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    Sep 1, 2015 9:08 AM in response to rc tech

    My TimeMachine problem was unrelated. I Copied 3.1 from an old MacBook and now have my old setup back.

     

    I renamed to MS 3.1 and put in Documents folder then Re-downloaded MS 3.2 and named it MS 3.2 so I can experiment.

     

    I can get the old Concert open in MS 3.2 using Brian Li's hack, but still no Layout.

     

    Maybe someone knows how to transfer the layout from the old Concert to the hacked one? If so, we are golden. As of now, i have my old setup back and will invest more time if I get new info.

     

    BTW, here is the link to the Brian Li fix:  https://brianli.com/rebuild-corrupt-mainstage-concert/

  • by rc tech,

    rc tech rc tech Sep 1, 2015 10:40 AM in response to musicminister7
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    Sep 1, 2015 10:40 AM in response to musicminister7

    Can someone post one of their concerts that won't open in 3.2 on dropbox? Maybe there are some tweaks to make it open.

  • by Mac-nl,

    Mac-nl Mac-nl Sep 1, 2015 10:47 AM in response to rc tech
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    Sep 1, 2015 10:47 AM in response to rc tech

    ITs no problem to open OLD concerts in ms 3.2.

    its only that if You save them IN ms3.2 ..... MS3.2 cant open its OWN file.

     

    if You wat to.. I can sent my ms3.2 file that wont open..

     

    mac

  • by Musical Stuff,

    Musical Stuff Musical Stuff Sep 1, 2015 11:11 AM in response to rc tech
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    Sep 1, 2015 11:11 AM in response to rc tech

    I've posted a ZIP file containing one of my concerts in Google Drive; the containing folder should be visible in the following location:

     

    https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwMQUtzE-Q9WfjR6b2JndTV5ajdSVnJDTnhmNDRt akdpVTJHOVVtZ0lDUEtZV0JGVUN5SGs&usp=sharing

     

    Let me know if you're able to read it.

     

    Many thanks,

     

       Cameron

  • by ap_nc,

    ap_nc ap_nc Sep 1, 2015 12:00 PM in response to Mac-nl
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    Sep 1, 2015 12:00 PM in response to Mac-nl

    Not my experience.

     

    Projects saved in 3.1.1 are not opening in 3.2.

  • by rc tech,

    rc tech rc tech Sep 1, 2015 12:41 PM in response to Musical Stuff
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    Sep 1, 2015 12:41 PM in response to Musical Stuff

    Musical Stuff: I was able to open your concert on my machine without a problem, but maybe your problem is audio unit related? When I opened your concert it gave me a warning saying that "Pianoteq " (with a space after it) was missing, and "M1" was missing. I do have Pianoteq 4, Pianoteq 5 and Pianoteq 5 STAGE installed and some of your channels with Pianoteq loaded correctly, but a few (such as the Pianoteq instance in "Carry You Home") says it is missing. I also tried opening it on my wife's laptop that doesn't have an audio units installed and it opened fine there as well.

     

    Maybe you can try disabling audio units and seeing if it opens ok for you? Or maybe you have another file that doesn't open? I would be happy to try opening it as well.

  • by rc tech,

    rc tech rc tech Sep 1, 2015 12:49 PM in response to rc tech
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    Sep 1, 2015 12:49 PM in response to rc tech

    Interestingly I took a look and although I have Pianoteq 4 STAGE installed, it says in the plugin manager that it "crashed validation". Then when I click on reset & rescan I get a crash report for auval for Pianoteq 4 STAGE... is it possible that this plugin is the one causing the problem?

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