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Q: 25,000 Song Limit

I have a question about the 25,000 song limit in Apple Music (soon to be 100,000).  I am an avid music listener and have reached this quota quickly since joining Apple Music. i cannot wait for the limit to increase with iOS 9, but I have a question about the specifics of that increase. Currently, the 25,000 limit is a limit of how many songs I can have in my Apple Music library, period. Regardless if it's owned by me or if it's part of Apple Music's cloud catalog. Is this going to change on iOS 9? Is the limit going to be specific to my owned music? For example, would I be able to upload 100,000 tracks of owned music and then add to that number with Apple Music's catalog? Google Music, for example, allows for 50,000 uploads to their cloud of owned music (not in their catalog, i.e., the Beatles), but unlimited storage from their cloud catalog. Will this be the Apple Music model?? Thanks for your time.

iPhone 6 Plus, iOS 8.4.1, iOS 9 beta

Posted on Sep 3, 2015 4:50 AM

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  • by eqlmnmta ,

    eqlmnmta eqlmnmta Oct 15, 2015 7:50 AM in response to 1@tom12
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    Oct 15, 2015 7:50 AM in response to 1@tom12

    Apple needs your money too much for that to ever happen.  Make sure you have backups of anything you put on their servers . No matter what, it will be next to impossible to get your music back off their servers should you lose the files.  I've been trying to get my music back for months now, but the store is down all the time.

     

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  • by kensong,

    kensong kensong Oct 27, 2015 10:45 PM in response to 1@tom12
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    Oct 27, 2015 10:45 PM in response to 1@tom12

    iOS 9 is here. El Capitan is here. The 100,000 raised song limit is not. And Apple is keeping mum on this. There were mentions on some Forums people successfully added more than the 25,000 song limits into their library. Is this false news or Apple is indeed rolling it out slowly? Only Apple knows. With the ability for me to build a catalog of songs and albums from both my iTunes library (albums I ripped from my CD collection and not available in Apple Music catalog) and Apple Music catalog, this 25K limitation is crippling that concept for serious music fans.

  • by gregory202,

    gregory202 gregory202 Oct 29, 2015 1:35 PM in response to kensong
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    Oct 29, 2015 1:35 PM in response to kensong

    kensong wrote:

     

    iOS 9 is here. El Capitan is here. The 100,000 raised song limit is not. And Apple is keeping mum on this. There were mentions on some Forums people successfully added more than the 25,000 song limits into their library. Is this false news or Apple is indeed rolling it out slowly? Only Apple knows. With the ability for me to build a catalog of songs and albums from both my iTunes library (albums I ripped from my CD collection and not available in Apple Music catalog) and Apple Music catalog, this 25K limitation is crippling that concept for serious music fans.

    There were no news on that false or otherwise from Apple. Apple news are available here, everything else is speculation.

    http://www.apple.com/hotnews/

  • by kensong,

    kensong kensong Dec 6, 2015 10:12 PM in response to 1@tom12
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  • by swandy,

    swandy swandy Dec 7, 2015 6:46 AM in response to kensong
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    Dec 7, 2015 6:46 AM in response to kensong

    kensong wrote:

     

    It seems it's done. Can anyone here confirm?

    http://9to5mac.com/2015/12/06/apple-raises-itunes-match-icloud-music-library-lim it-to-100k-songs-up-from-25k/

    WWonder if they also fixed the mis-matching issue. Would like that cured before I try my full iTunes library.

  • by kensong,

    kensong kensong Dec 7, 2015 7:18 AM in response to kensong
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    Dec 7, 2015 7:18 AM in response to kensong

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    Looks like it is indeed bumped up. I have 77,241 songs available in my car through the iPhone's Apple Music. It was never more than 25,000 songs a few days ago. Thank you Apple. Better late than never.

  • by Chris McCord,

    Chris McCord Chris McCord Jan 6, 2016 6:20 AM in response to kensong
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    Jan 6, 2016 6:20 AM in response to kensong

    kensong wrote:

     

    It seems it's done. Can anyone here confirm?

    http://9to5mac.com/2015/12/06/apple-raises-itunes-match-icloud-music-library-lim it-to-100k-songs-up-from-25k/

    I confirm, this is now working! I have over 55k of my own music on my Mac and they are now a part of my iCloud Library and its all showing up now on my iPhone and iPads! Sweet.    

  • by swandy,

    swandy swandy Jan 6, 2016 10:02 AM in response to Chris McCord
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    Jan 6, 2016 10:02 AM in response to Chris McCord

    Chris McCord wrote:

     

    kensong wrote:

     

    It seems it's done. Can anyone here confirm?

    http://9to5mac.com/2015/12/06/apple-raises-itunes-match-icloud-music-library-lim it-to-100k-songs-up-from-25k/

    I confirm, this is now working! I have over 55k of my own music on my Mac and they are now a part of my iCloud Library and its all showing up now on my iPhone and iPads! Sweet.   

    Yes, they did raise limit - I also have about 55k in my ICML. Unfortunately they still have not fixed the mis-matching issues. Hopefully that will come soon.

  • by Chris McCord,

    Chris McCord Chris McCord Jan 6, 2016 10:32 AM in response to swandy
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    Jan 6, 2016 10:32 AM in response to swandy

    So whats the mis-match issue? I mean if your library is not perfect its going to be hard to match some music with what they own vs. what you own right?

    I was pretty anal with my library and kept the meta data clean and I've some mis matches I think, but I don't expect it to be perfect I suppose.

     

    Is there something more detailed to the mis match errors?    

  • by swandy,

    swandy swandy Jan 8, 2016 8:15 AM in response to Chris McCord
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    Jan 8, 2016 8:15 AM in response to Chris McCord

    There have been numerous threads and complaints about the logarithms that Apple uses - at least for iCloud Music Library - to "match" your library to what they have available through Apple Music. The theory being that if they have your song, why upload another copy of it, just link your library to the one in Apple Music. Unfortunately the matching is only based upon (and I heard this from two different Apple Senior techs) the Artist's Name and the Track Name. So very often live or alternative versions of songs will be mis-matched to the original studio version of a song. This results in (1) the wrong version being played on your secondary computers or devices - not the one that holds your original iTunes Library from where you did the initial matching from and (2) the wrong artwork showing up on various devices because it is showing the artwork from where ICML matched your song as opposed to the album that you have it from.

    Has nothing to do with whether or not my library is "perfect". Yes I realize that I have a lot of non-official live versions or live versions that were gotten from sites other than iTunes, but those - assuming that those versions are not in Apple Music's library - should have been uploaded, not matched to the wrong version. Even officially released live albums that I purchased from other sites (LiveDownloads.com, artist's websites, Google Music) don't match properly.

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