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Q: Is Bootcamp 6 been released yet ?

I have read Bootcamp 6 has been released which will enable Windows 10 upgrade. I cannot find this ANY IDEAS ?

iMac (27-inch, Late 2013), OS X Yosemite (10.10)

Posted on Sep 4, 2015 11:50 AM

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  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Sep 5, 2015 8:29 AM in response to Brodie153
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    Sep 5, 2015 8:29 AM in response to Brodie153
    Delete the bootcamp partition using the OSX bootcamp assistant, and create a NEW bootcamp with Win 10.

    Cybmax is suggesting removing the old upgraded installation and do a clean install, to avoid W7/W8+W10 mixed drivers.

     

    You issue is also related to a 3TB Fusion drive, because of the partitioning used by the Mac, Windows sees a vary strange disk layout. If you can find the log for the update, it would be very helpful.

  • by Cybmax,

    Cybmax Cybmax Sep 5, 2015 9:02 AM in response to Brodie153
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    Sep 5, 2015 9:02 AM in response to Brodie153

    If you have tried to upgrade from a CLEAN (new install) windows 8.1 install to windows 10, i guess it wont help. Was mentioning this for you to try to do a clean install of windows 8.1 first, so it was not some software/driver that prevented your upgrade to finish.

     

    Deleting the bootcamp partition AFTER you have performed the UPGRADE, was just so that you could do a clean install after... I always recommend doing clean installs vs. continuing to use the upgraded version even tho its supposed to "work perfectly", but from experience there is always some registry information/old software laying about that clutters the system

     

    There is so many things that could go wrong during a upgrade if you have loads of software installed, and loads of obscure error messages that makes you have to read log files and search the internet for solutions

     

    C

  • by Brodie153,

    Brodie153 Brodie153 Sep 6, 2015 4:36 AM in response to Cybmax
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    Sep 6, 2015 4:36 AM in response to Cybmax

    Hi again

     

    I have taken your advise and wiped my version of Win 8.1 and tried a clean install.

     

    Unfortunately I get as far as partitioning the disk (500GB) for BOOTCAMP create the USB, but when I get to select the Windows 8.1 .iso and enter the serial key I then get a screen saying that Windows can't be installed as the partition is the wrong format. It's MS-DOS (32) and my copy of Win 8.1 is 64bit, so how do I change the partition to the correct format ? I have tried hitting the small format button and it just wipes the partition clean

  • by Brodie153,

    Brodie153 Brodie153 Sep 6, 2015 6:35 AM in response to Brodie153
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    Sep 6, 2015 6:35 AM in response to Brodie153

    Hi

     

    I have now created a new problem for myself. I had no success in installing Win 8.1. I seem to have erased the partition but I am now left with a 500GB Free Space partition which I just can't get rid of. In Disk Utility the the minus key is greyed out and I can't extend the Mac HD to fill the space, ANY IDEAS ??

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Sep 6, 2015 6:42 AM in response to Brodie153
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    Sep 6, 2015 6:42 AM in response to Brodie153

    1. BC Assistant requires the FAT32 partition it creates to be formatted manually, after you format, you can hist Next and continue Windows installation.

    2. If you manipulate the partitioning by yourself using Disk Utility, BCA and DU do not work together well. Please post the output of the following Terminal commands...

     

    diskutil list

    diskutil cs list

    sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk0

    sudo fdisk /dev/disk0

     

    The "sudo" commands will prompt for your password, and it will not be echoed back. You may also see a warning about improper use of "sudo" and potential data loss due to "abuse" of the command.

  • by Brodie153,

    Brodie153 Brodie153 Sep 6, 2015 6:51 AM in response to Loner T
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    Sep 6, 2015 6:51 AM in response to Loner T

    Hi, see below

     

    Study-iMac-2:~ Steve$ diskutil list

    /dev/disk0

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *121.3 GB   disk0

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         121.0 GB   disk0s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk0s3

    /dev/disk1

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *3.0 TB     disk1

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk1s1

       2:          Apple_CoreStorage                         2.6 TB     disk1s2

       3:                 Apple_Boot Recovery HD             650.1 MB   disk1s3

       4:                 Apple_Boot Boot OS X               134.2 MB   disk1s4

    /dev/disk2

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:                  Apple_HFS Study iMac HD          *2.7 TB     disk2

                                     Logical Volume on disk0s2, disk1s2

                                     77385BE3-5B51-4464-B39F-77250B7B0D70

                                     Unencrypted Fusion Drive

    /dev/disk3

       #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER

       0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *3.0 TB     disk3

       1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk3s1

       2:                  Apple_HFS My Book for Mac         2.0 TB     disk3s2

       3:       Microsoft Basic Data MyBook Win              1000.0 GB  disk3s3


    Study-iMac-2:~ Steve$ diskutil cs list

    CoreStorage logical volume groups (1 found)

    |

    +-- Logical Volume Group 976240FB-B065-4111-855D-A1B0F48D1E04

        =========================================================

        Name:         Internal Drive

        Status:       Online

        Size:         2689855528960 B (2.7 TB)

        Free Space:   393216 B (393.2 KB)

        |

        +-< Physical Volume FEDA9411-C8EA-4657-BC53-225C14968ECC

        |   ----------------------------------------------------

        |   Index:    0

        |   Disk:     disk0s2

        |   Status:   Online

        |   Size:     120988852224 B (121.0 GB)

        |

        +-< Physical Volume 4DE25C82-2B1D-406F-A4B9-6CF3BE629BCF

        |   ----------------------------------------------------

        |   Index:    1

        |   Disk:     disk1s2

        |   Status:   Online

        |   Size:     2568866676736 B (2.6 TB)

        |

        +-> Logical Volume Family FDBDFC65-6F82-40EE-B3E1-E8ADDB98B2AB

            ----------------------------------------------------------

            Encryption Status:       Unlocked

            Encryption Type:         None

            Conversion Status:       NoConversion

            Conversion Direction:    -none-

            Has Encrypted Extents:   No

            Fully Secure:            No

            Passphrase Required:     No

            |

            +-> Logical Volume 77385BE3-5B51-4464-B39F-77250B7B0D70

                ---------------------------------------------------

                Disk:                  disk2

                Status:                Online

                Size (Total):          2683999879168 B (2.7 TB)

                Conversion Progress:   -none-

                Revertible:            No

                LV Name:               Study iMac HD

                Volume Name:           Study iMac HD

                Content Hint:          Apple_HFS


    Study-iMac-2:~ Steve$ sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk0

     

    We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System

    Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:

     

        #1) Respect the privacy of others.

        #2) Think before you type.

        #3) With great power comes great responsibility.

     

    Password:

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: mediasize=121332826112; sectorsize=512; blocks=236978176

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: PMBR at sector 0

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: Pri GPT at sector 1

    gpt show: /dev/disk0: Sec GPT at sector 236978175

          start       size  index  contents

              0          1         PMBR

              1          1         Pri GPT header

              2         32         Pri GPT table

             34          6        

             40     409600      1  GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

         409640  236306352      2  GPT part - 53746F72-6167-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      236715992     262144      3  GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      236978136          7        

      236978143         32         Sec GPT table



      236978175          1         Sec GPT header


    Study-iMac-2:~ Steve$ sudo fdisk /dev/disk0

    Disk: /dev/disk0 geometry: 14751/255/63 [236978176 sectors]

    Signature: 0xAA55

             Starting       Ending

    #: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [     start -       size]

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1: EE 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [         1 -  236978175] <Unknown ID>

    2: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused     

    3: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused     

    4: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused     

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Sep 6, 2015 7:55 AM in response to Brodie153
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    Sep 6, 2015 7:55 AM in response to Brodie153

    You have a 3TB Fusion drive. If you notice, on disk1 (the HDD part), the 3Tb disk is missing about 400Gb. Please post the output of

     

    sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk1

    sudo fdisk /dev/disk1

  • by Brodie153,

    Brodie153 Brodie153 Sep 6, 2015 8:03 AM in response to Loner T
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    Sep 6, 2015 8:03 AM in response to Loner T

    Hi again

     

    Study-iMac-2:~ Steve$ sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk1

    Password:

    Sorry, try again.

    Password:

    Sorry, try again.

    Password:

    gpt show: /dev/disk1: mediasize=3000592982016; sectorsize=512; blocks=5860533168

    gpt show: /dev/disk1: PMBR at sector 0

    gpt show: /dev/disk1: Pri GPT at sector 1

    gpt show: /dev/disk1: Sec GPT at sector 5860533167

           start        size  index  contents

               0           1         PMBR

               1           1         Pri GPT header

               2          32         Pri GPT table

              34           6        

              40      409600      1  GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

          409640  5017317728      2  GPT part - 53746F72-6167-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      5017727368     1269760      3  GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      5018997128   841273856        

      5860270984      262144      4  GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

      5860533128           7        

      5860533135          32         Sec GPT table

      5860533167           1         Sec GPT header


    Study-iMac-2:~ Steve$ sudo fdisk /dev/disk1

    Disk: /dev/disk1 geometry: 97451/255/63 [1565565872 sectors]

    Signature: 0xAA55

             Starting       Ending

    #: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [     start -       size]

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1: EE 1023 254  63 - 1023 254  63 [         1 - 4294967294] <Unknown ID>

    2: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused     

    3: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused     

    4: 00    0   0   0 -    0   0   0 [         0 -          0] unused  

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Sep 6, 2015 8:15 AM in response to Brodie153
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    Sep 6, 2015 8:15 AM in response to Brodie153

    5017727368     1269760      3  GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

    5018997128   841273856        

    5860270984      262144      4  GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

    The gap is where your disk space is. Unless you want to manipulate the disks using Terminal CLI, the following steps are the simplest/safest method...

     

    1. Back up OSX using Time Machine - Mac Basics: Time Machine backs up your Mac - Apple Support.

    2. Boot into Internet Recovery - OS X: About OS X Recovery - Apple Support.

    3. Erase your internal drive (the entire outermost drive which will erase the SSD and HDD part, both) and restore from the TM backup in Step 1 - OS X Yosemite: Recover your entire system.

     

    Please be aware that TM does not backup Bootcamp partitions.

  • by Brodie153,

    Brodie153 Brodie153 Sep 6, 2015 8:32 AM in response to Loner T
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    Sep 6, 2015 8:32 AM in response to Loner T

    Hi

     

    Thanks again for your help. I wish I had never begun to try and upgrade to Win 10, all was working quite well before.

     

    Anyhow, I think I understand what you suggest. Just a couple of queries.

     

    I have a time machine backup so no problem there. Will all of my files & settings be restored to what they are, including any other users logins on the same IMac ?

     

    Finally you suggest erasing my SSD/HDD, what is the easiest way of doing this ?

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Sep 6, 2015 8:59 AM in response to Brodie153
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    Sep 6, 2015 8:59 AM in response to Brodie153

    Use the TM icon and click on Backup Now to get the latest files on backup. Start Internet Recovery with the spinning globe. In Recovery Console, click Utilities -> Disk Utility and erase the outermost Macintosh HD. If it fails I can provide Terminal commands. Once erased, restore from TM backup.

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