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Q: Exercise has stopped calculating on the activity app

The activity app has stopped calculating/ showing my exercise minutes.  I have walked the same distance twice a day.  It was bad enough with an exercise  discrepancy between walks of anywhere between 30 minutes and an hour.  But now it completely refuses to acknowledge any exercise.  I walked my fastest 3 miles in 1 hour and 6 minutes.  The watch showed no exercise.  This morning I did the same 3 miles in 1 hour 10 minutes and again, no minutes.  I have reset and rebooted the system.  ALL this failure happened AFTER I used the workout app....  I use multiple different step trackers, and it seems to be close.  So, how do I get this resolved?  

Apple Watch Sport 38mm

Posted on Sep 5, 2015 7:33 PM

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  • by William Julien2,

    William Julien2 William Julien2 Sep 6, 2015 11:41 AM in response to nick101
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    Sep 6, 2015 11:41 AM in response to nick101

    Sorry, I miss replied to your post. I have edited my post so it is clear I'm referring to the OP.

  • by G3gator,

    G3gator G3gator Sep 6, 2015 11:48 AM in response to nick101
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    Sep 6, 2015 11:48 AM in response to nick101

    One more anecdotal piece of evidence.

     

    Last night I walked from the ball game (which my team won!) to my car at a fast pace. How fast? I don't know but I was passing everyone else. I recorded 15 minutes of 'Exercise" (no workout app going). I just checked and there was not a single heart-rate measurement during that time. My heart rate could not have determined that I was 'exercising.'

     

    George

  • by William Julien2,

    William Julien2 William Julien2 Sep 6, 2015 11:54 AM in response to G3gator
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    Sep 6, 2015 11:54 AM in response to G3gator

    Now I will reply to you.

     

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  • by Jonathan UK,

    Jonathan UK Jonathan UK Sep 6, 2015 11:59 AM in response to G3gator
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    Sep 6, 2015 11:59 AM in response to G3gator

    G3gator wrote:

     

    Last night I walked .. to my car at a fast pace. I just checked and there was not a single heart-rate measurement during that time. My heart rate could not have determined that I was 'exercising.'

     

     

    Jonathan UK wrote:

     

    when you are not using the Workout app .. the Activity app relies on arm motion and the accelerometer to track movement.

  • by G3gator,

    G3gator G3gator Sep 6, 2015 12:06 PM in response to William Julien2
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    Sep 6, 2015 12:06 PM in response to William Julien2

    This makes sense (with the evidence). The questions that I think remain are exactly how fast must oen walk to register as 'exercise' and does it vary according to the person's personal data. The calories burned almost certainly would vary for age, weight, height, maybe historical resting heart rate. 

     

    Whether the calorie burn is accurate is another, and important, question. I have seen no reliable evidence either way.


    George

  • by William Julien2,

    William Julien2 William Julien2 Sep 6, 2015 12:33 PM in response to G3gator
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    Sep 6, 2015 12:33 PM in response to G3gator

    Calories burned and consumed is 100% relative to your metrics. Apple uses 4 metrics to do calculations. It is Age, Sex, Hight and Weight. All of these are entered into the Watch App when you set up your Watch. Granted there or several other metrics that could be used to make the algorithms more accurate like body composition (fat to lean ratio), VO2 Max, resting HR, Maximal HR and HR reserve to name a couple.  Apple actually has a lot of research hours (over 33,000) invested and the shear bulk of data plus resources brought to bear looks promising.

     

    There are a few companies that do this and one of the and most used as an OEM is Firstbeat http://www.firstbeat.com/consumers/analyzed-by-firstbeat-features


    For a great read on Apple's latest efforts and the depth of research they are doing offered by Jay Blank go here. http://www.outsideonline.com/2006026/apple-watch-fitness-review

  • by nick101,

    nick101 nick101 Sep 6, 2015 2:37 PM in response to William Julien2
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    Sep 6, 2015 2:37 PM in response to William Julien2

    No problem. You gave me the opportunity to boast, so it's cool

  • by Taos462,

    Taos462 Taos462 Sep 6, 2015 11:12 PM in response to nick101
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    Sep 6, 2015 11:12 PM in response to nick101

    I Always have my phone with me.  I got around it by using the workout app and choosing "other" for my walk.  As of now I have 184 minutes out of a 9 hour day.  Which makes more sense considering the miles and comparing it to my other exercise apps...  It's still annoying to have to activate another app.  It should just work without the "workout" app... It did before...

  • by Taos462,

    Taos462 Taos462 Sep 6, 2015 11:15 PM in response to nick101
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    Sep 6, 2015 11:15 PM in response to nick101

    I Did that... Nothing worked... How do you "calibrate" the watch???  I didn't have to before???

  • by Taos462,

    Taos462 Taos462 Sep 6, 2015 11:21 PM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Sep 6, 2015 11:21 PM in response to Winston Churchill

    Yes, I'm sure... It recorded my activity when my dog was dying and we could only walk 1/2 mile a day.....  And it was recording, as I stated, prior to using the "workout" app walking the same distance.... And BTW:  The built-in HR monitor showed my HR was 44 bpm when it was actually 88 ....  Maybe the monitor has failed.....

  • by Taos462,

    Taos462 Taos462 Sep 6, 2015 11:26 PM in response to William Julien2
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    Sep 6, 2015 11:26 PM in response to William Julien2

    ******** on the greater than 3 MPH....  It doesn't record when I cycle.... And I'm moving much quicker than 3.  Plus... It's a brisk walk... There is no hard and fast rule for "brisk"....  That's just something that has been made up.... It recorded when I was moving at 1.5 mph.....  The system has flaws that need to be worked out... 

  • by Taos462,

    Taos462 Taos462 Sep 6, 2015 11:50 PM in response to nick101
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    Sep 6, 2015 11:50 PM in response to nick101

    Thank you Nick101....  My daily walk with my dog is "brisk" enough to maintain my HR in the "cardio" level...  So, your 3 MPH is out the door...  besides, multiple people are having issues with it SUDDENLY....  Something must have happened or changed.... Or stopped "syncing"...  But thanks for the insults William Julien2...

  • by nick101,

    nick101 nick101 Sep 6, 2015 11:58 PM in response to Taos462
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    Sep 6, 2015 11:58 PM in response to Taos462

    You calibrate by walking for at least 20 minutes with the phone with you - that way the watch gets to use the phone's GPS to measure distance and calculate stride length. Details here:

     

    https://help.apple.com/watch/#/apd0443fb403

     

    So, looking at your posts - if you start a Workout, you get credit for the exercise, but if you don't start a workout, you get no credit? Is that correct?

  • by nick101,

    nick101 nick101 Sep 7, 2015 12:01 AM in response to Taos462
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    Sep 7, 2015 12:01 AM in response to Taos462

    The system certainly has flaws. Cycling is tricky because your arms not moving, and the accelerometer doesn't know whether your cycling or sitting in a car or whatever. That's why starting the Workout app can be important - it's telling the Watch what you're doing.

  • by Taos462,

    Taos462 Taos462 Sep 7, 2015 1:22 AM in response to nick101
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    Sep 7, 2015 1:22 AM in response to nick101

    Cycling can't be that tricky (my FitBit tracks my cycling) .... The accelerometer takes into account total body movement... It also uses the GPS on my phone to measure distance and speed.  It has always calculated SOME exercise.  Since I've used the workout app that changed....  I wonder if it attempted to measure my heart rate, miscalculated it and reset the system to a different "goal".  Makes since....  If it read my HR at 64 when in fact it was 128, then it would say I never have met my "goal".  It's calculating everything else.  Today I turned the HR monitor off and, guess what, it reads ALL activity.  Move, Exercise, and Stand....  There must be a connection between the two...

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