when you download a new OS, wher is it stored before installation on my imac

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when you download a new OS, wher is it stored before installation on my imac

I'm trying to d/load the OS (10.10). where is it downloaded to?? I wish to install it on both my internal drives as well as my SSD without the need to completely do fresh & new downloads.

I thought it would go to my d/l folder but that is not the case.

I'm using the App Store to d/l using the purchased facility and all you get is "install" but once you've done that yopu can't rtepeat it for my other disks.

iMac, OS X Yosemite (10.10.3)

Posted on Sep 14, 2015 2:13 AM

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Leopardus

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Sep 14, 2015 2:41 AM in response to ribbo39

Look in your Applications folder. You can click with two fingers (or right click), to view the contents of the installer package right there.

Of course you can clone that completely to any location you want for your second installation.

Leo

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ribbo39 Author

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Sep 14, 2015 3:33 AM in response to Leopardus

Hi Leopardus,

Many thanks - have now found it.

However, when I try to install it on my internal SSD (480 GB) it says it cannot be installed as its used for Time Machine backups!!

This SSD is in addition to the built in 1TB original disk.

Any ideas on how to overcome this problem?

Alan

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Leopardus

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Sep 14, 2015 4:32 AM in response to ribbo39

Try and temporarily switch of TM and see if it works. Alternatively, If you have an external disk, try and move the TM backup to it. Otherwise, it could be possible to create a second partition on the 1 TB and allocate that for the backup, temporary of course and move/clone your SSD contents to it. Then try it.

Leo

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Barney-15E

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Sep 14, 2015 4:40 AM in response to ribbo39

Is there a backups.backupd folder on the SSD? That will usually cause the message you see. If you are not actually backing up to that disk, you can delete it.

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ribbo39 Author

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Sep 14, 2015 5:11 AM in response to Barney-15E

Barney-15E

Yes - I eventually found a t/m backup hidden on the SSD. I managed to delete it and another file called "Cores" with nothing in it and deleted that as well.

As a result was able to install 10.10 on the SSD and all is working well.

My only problem, which still stands, is why, when I enter time machine, I cannot read any t/m backups - they either show up but suddenly dis-appears or do not appear at all - just the current page.

This problem was the subject of another question I raised about 2 weeks ago.

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Eric Root

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Sep 14, 2015 12:37 PM in response to ribbo39

Whle in Time Machine, to see all mounted volumes shift - command - c. Information learned from Linc Davis.

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ribbo39 Author

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Sep 14, 2015 3:09 PM in response to Eric Root

Thanks Eric Root.

I wasn't aware of that route and it worked by mounting all my backups. It initially failed however, when I tried to restore a file (just testing)

but have tried twice since then and it works.

I have restored the OS to my SSD which has made no difference regarding t/machine

But I wonder what it is that is preventing t/machine to work the way it did, and in selecting from the side bar a date and time?

Thank you

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Barney-15E

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Sep 14, 2015 6:11 PM in response to ribbo39

What are you backing up to?

Time Capsule?

Direct connected external hard drive?

Some sort of NAS configuration?

See this website for lots of good info on Time Machine: http://pondini.org/OSX/Home.html

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ribbo39 Author

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Sep 15, 2015 2:38 AM in response to Barney-15E

Barney-15E,

I have been backing up to a Time Capsule using time machine. I have it connected via eth. cable direct from my iMac or sometimes

when testing via eth. cable to modem>then T/Capsule. I have even used just wi-fi all with the same problem of not being able to read the backups.

The idea of using cmd, **** & C keys does work.

Until recently, I had backups, that could be read and even restored, going back about 18 months and cannot work out why it should suddenly

stop working.

Thanks for the pondini link looks interesting.

Alan

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Barney-15E

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Sep 15, 2015 4:15 AM in response to ribbo39

I would repair the Time Capsule disk (I don't have one, so I'm not sure how to do that), and also see if Pondini has any other ideas.

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Eric Root

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Sep 15, 2015 12:22 PM in response to Barney-15E

On the Pondini website, click Troubleshooting, then A4.

See pages 28 and 29. Using Airport Utility (page 29), I don’t see the options the manual says are there. I have done a reset and a full reset (page 28) many times and it has always straightened out the Time Capsule.

Time Capsule Manual

Airport Base Station or Time Capsule Reset

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Leopardus

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Sep 16, 2015 12:35 AM in response to ribbo39

See my second post. You have deleted your interim backup. TM will backup to multiple destinations, alternatively when available. Also, the fact that you have backed up from various ip addresses to the Time Capsule, have complicated things. Thus, your last series of backups, was done on your internal SSD. Those are now gone. You still have the previous backups on the TM. You will have to 'own the backups' still left on it.

Unfortunately, you didn't follow my advice "Move temporarily" the backups to another location. If you have done so, I could have explained to you a way to 'merge' the backups into one.

Thus the only way left for you is to follow the procedure contained to 'become the owner of the backups' - my words

Leo

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ribbo39 Author

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Sep 16, 2015 3:35 AM in response to Leopardus

Leo,

Somehow, I completely miss-read your 2nd post - my apologies.

Using either eth. cables or wi-fi was as instructed by the Apple Techs in trying to overcome my problem.

This was the subject of an earlier posting about not being able to read the backups when entering time machine.

However, as I only have backups from the beginning of Sept. this year, doesn't cause much of a problem.

It was where does the new (10.10) OS download to which is what I was trying to find as I wanted to re-install on both the original hard drive & the SSD - both successfully done now.

How, or where, do I find "become the owner of the backups"

Alan

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Leopardus

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Sep 16, 2015 4:08 AM in response to ribbo39

1. Write down all the settings that you have on Time Machine, as it is at present using Airport Utility to access it.

2. Disable TM on your Mac, remove the backup destination and switch it off on your Mac.

3. Unplug the power to the TM.

4. Re-establish power to the TM whilst doing a reset as described in the documentation.

5. Power on your Mac.

6. Using the Airport Utility program, re-enter/confirm all your settings as you had them before.

7. Re-enable Time Machine backups and choose your backup destination in the TM as before.

8. Let it perform a backup

That should do it.

Leo

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ribbo39 Author

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Sep 16, 2015 5:49 AM in response to Leopardus

Leo,

I did exactly as you listed; reset the t/capsule, re-entered all the settings; re-enabled t/m and performed a backup. etc

Entered t/m and initially all backups appeared then all of a sudden they dis-appeared!! leaving only the current page to view.

I suspect there is a problem with my iMac, not the time capsule.

Many thanks for all your help

Alan

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