I think that giving up on Aperture and accepting its demise is not our only option, Aperture is by far the best digital photo application that Apple (or indeed any other software developer) have created and as such, must not be allowed to disappear.
If we all create a groundswell of opinion we can persuade them to reinstate this Rolls Royce of an application. Lets unite, and rise up to remind Apple that Adobe cannot be the provsole digital photo platform on the planet.
Unfortunately you will have to change at some point. Some folks say that they won't update the OS and just keep using Aperture, but one day your Mac will break and you'll need to replace it. At that point you will have to use a new OS, and if Aperture won't run on that, then you will have a crisis on you hands.
Now is the time to evaluate alternatives and select one, so that you can do the transition is an orderly and managed fashion. If you think that might be too stressful, then imagine the stress when you're learning a new OS on a new computer and a new app all at the same time, and you can't even access the Aperture Library.
Adobe are not the only people with apps in this space, tho probably LR is the nearest to Aperture, and has a migration tool. But there are others: Capture One, Corel AfterShot, ON1 PhotoRaw, Luminar promises a new DAM app in 2018 and so on.
Frankly, I don't see that you have a choice. Do it now when it can be managed, or later when it's a crisis. That's your choice.
That too will change 🙂
There aren't any. We're screwed
There are. You're not. You just need to compromise.
I bought the original 1.0 version of Aperture (literally) on day-one and have been using it ever since. I'm still using Mac OS 10.10 since I don't want to deal with even the minor issues that 10.11 has on Aperture. I also don't want to upgrade my 2009 Mac Pro since new Macs (probably) won't support 10.10 (I'm also waiting to see if the Mac Pro is really dead). Last year I realized I would be completely screwed if I didn't find an alternative to Aperture soon. I wanted to spend at least a year or two to complete my migration to a new system. This would allow me to make the change systematically and assure everything transfers as I want, while learning how to use the new system and develop new workflows.
I looked into Lightroom and expected it to be a horror show after comments I read in this forum. I was wrong.
I have been slowly migrating my library to library and also cleaning up old metadata while making the transition (no plugin import for me). While I currently still prefer the Apertures interface, I also look forward to using aspects of Lightroom that are missing in Aperture. I doubt if I will miss Aperture two years from now and will certainly be happy to be using a system that is supported and continues to have greater capabilities than Aperture ever did.
While Lightroom may not be for you, I suggest you do something sooner, rather than later. Or you, indeed, will be screwed.
David
Csound1 wrote:
This Aperture kerfuffle just makes me glad I stuck with film, developer and fix always work,...
In relation to this discussion this matters how?
Csound1 wrote:
That is not a reason for Apple to keep supplying or supporting it, get something else...
I agree!
In trying to think positively about the unceremonious loss of Aperture I've had these questions in my mind. They may seem a little far fetched, but I have thought them nevertheless.
I have been using Apple hardware and software since 1981. Never before last year with the loss of Aperture have I considered abandoning the platform for another. But, with Adobe seeming to be the 'best alternative' to Aperture I have no reason to stick to Apple stuff. My MacPro is beginning, already, to show signs of coming problems and there isn't even a promise from Apple about a replacement. A powerful, less expensive Windows machine might just be the answer. I agree with others on this forum that LR has powerful and useful tools to edit and process digital images. Its user interface can't possible be worse in Windows. Further, Android devices have improved to the extent that an iPhone isn't the irreplaceable, must have device it used to be for me.
Again, trying to be positive and think outside the box I've entertained these questions in my mind.
1. Is there a way to try to influence Adobe to either make LR a little more Aperture-like by improving its ability to manage the digital assets assigned to it or producing a really good DAM piece of software which would work with other Adobe products?
2. Is it possible to bring the plight of Aperture users to companies like Microsoft or Google (NIK) in hope that they might be interested in updating Aperture or producing a new Aperture-like image editing/DAM piece of software for advanced and pro photographers?
Hope these aren't just crazy, impractical ideas. Do they have any merit?
> You just need to compromise.
For me, switching to Adobe's platform (and let's be realistic, we're talking about a platform shift, not just a switch in a single application) would be on a similar level as switching back to Windows - not gonna happen. I'll manage my library manually in the Finder before I embrace Adobe.
How are you managing/storing all your images? Lightroom doesn't play with iCloud Photo Library.
I'll switch to an abacus and sticky notes before I consider returning to Windows. My feelings towards Adobe are only slightly less polarized.
Gerald Gifford wrote:
Csound1 wrote:
This Aperture kerfuffle just makes me glad I stuck with film, developer and fix always work,...
In relation to this discussion this matters how?
Because Aperture is gone, and film is not.
Apart from demonstrating that you've a lovely grasp of hyperbole, what are you saying here that moves you forward in any sense? Aperture is over. You don't like Adobe. Okay, then use an app by another maker - CaptureOne for instance, or even the Finder as you prefer. The thread isn't about how strongly you feel, the thread is about giving up on Aperture, which is dying. Do it now while you have a problem or do it when Aperture is dead when it's a crisis. Up to you.
1. Is there a way to try to influence Adobe to either make LR a little more Aperture-like by improving its ability to manage the digital assets assigned to it or producing a really good DAM piece of software which would work with other Adobe products?
This is worth a go. At least LR is in actual development and frequently updated. Submit feature requests.
2. Is it possible to bring the plight of Aperture users to companies like Microsoft or Google (NIK) in hope that they might be interested in updating Aperture or producing a new Aperture-like image editing/DAM piece of software for advanced and pro photographers?
Forget Google. They'd as likely develop it for a few years and then abandon it. Why would MS be interested? They have no track record in the field, and face it, it's a well populated field already.
My 2cents
> what are you saying here that moves you forward in any sense?
This is my little Festivus. An airing of grievances is good for the soul.
This is not the place for festivus, or the time, (such as it has a tradition) it is normally celebrated on Dec 23.
The futility of our rants against Apple are matched only by the futility of your attempts to silence them.
Its not about you, its about Apples right to make its own decisions
Don't give up on Aperture
