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Q: Don't give up on Aperture

I think that giving up on Aperture and accepting its demise is not our only option, Aperture is by far the best digital photo application that Apple (or indeed any other software developer) have created and as such, must not be allowed to disappear.

If we all create a groundswell of opinion we can persuade them to reinstate this Rolls Royce of an application. Lets unite, and rise up to remind Apple that Adobe cannot be the provsole digital photo platform on the planet.

Posted on Sep 16, 2015 8:11 AM

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  • by freediverx01,

    freediverx01 freediverx01 Nov 2, 2015 8:30 AM in response to Gerald Gifford
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    Nov 2, 2015 8:30 AM in response to Gerald Gifford

    How to Stop Photos Opening Automatically on Mac OS X when iPhone or Camera Connects


    stop-photos-opening-automatically-when-iphone-connects-to-mac.jpg


    This doesn't work for me at all. I've repeatedly unchecked the "Open Photos for this device" option, yet every time I connect a camera or SD card, Photos starts up automatically offering the same option.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Nov 2, 2015 8:30 AM in response to freediverx01
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    Nov 2, 2015 8:30 AM in response to freediverx01

    This doesn't work for me at all. I've repeatedly checked the "Open Photos for this device" option, yet every time I connect a camera or SD card, Photos starts up automatically offering the same option.

    The annoying problem is, that you have to uncheck this option for each and every of your cards individually. Each card will be seen as a  different  device. And if you reformat the card in the camera, it will be a new device and you have to uncheck the option again.

  • by Badunit,

    Badunit Badunit Nov 2, 2015 8:39 AM in response to léonie
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    Nov 2, 2015 8:39 AM in response to léonie

    léonie wrote:

     

    Photos is installed as part of the system, so each system update wil reinstall it.

    I'm not perfectly sure, that it is safe to delete a part of the system.

     

    Are you sure about these two statements?  It is in the Applications folder just like every other app, no different than all the other apps that come with the OS and can be deleted.  I don't know about updates reinstalling it and cannot test it (I have not deleted Photos nor do I have an update pending). But, if it did, it could be deleted again. I, for one, would be ticked if Photos opened whenever I inserted a camera card.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Nov 2, 2015 9:07 AM in response to Badunit
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    Nov 2, 2015 9:07 AM in response to Badunit

    I tested with Yosemite, when Photos first came out.  Running the Yosemite combo update reinstalled Photos.

    It is different from the iLife applications, that came preinstalled, but are not part of the system.

     

    But Mail, Contacts, Calendar, Photos, any app that is installed as part of the system will give you this warning, when you try to delete it:  "Photos.app" can't be modified or deleted, because it's required by OS X.

    Screen Shot 2015-11-02 at 18.03.55GMT.png

     

    The Photos forum is files as a subforum of MacOS X, because Photos is part of MacOS X.

  • by Badunit,

    Badunit Badunit Nov 2, 2015 9:46 AM in response to léonie
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    Nov 2, 2015 9:46 AM in response to léonie

    Thanks for the clarification.

     

    The thread linked to below tells how to get rid of it if someone really wants to.  The answer is a few posts down in the thread.

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7053455?tstart=0

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Nov 2, 2015 10:05 AM in response to Badunit
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    Nov 2, 2015 10:05 AM in response to Badunit

    The solution you pointed to worked in Yosemite, but in El Capitan the System Integrity Protection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Integrity_Protection)  put a stop to this.  Even with the "sudo" prefix you cannot delete certain applications from the Applications folder, that are part of the system, unless you disable System Integrity Protection, which would be risky.

  • by Badunit,

    Badunit Badunit Nov 2, 2015 11:11 AM in response to léonie
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    Nov 2, 2015 11:11 AM in response to léonie

    Jeez. That's funny. Are they fighting hackers and malware or are they fighting their customers, I cannot tell. But this thing with OS X and Photos sounds reminiscent of Windows and Internet Explorer. Both claim the app is necessary for the OS but, as proven in the case of Windows and I conjecture the same about OS X, the OS works perfectly fine without it.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 2, 2015 11:13 AM in response to Badunit
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    Nov 2, 2015 11:13 AM in response to Badunit

    Jeez, Apples statement or an anonymous conjecture. Let me think about that.

  • by Badunit,

    Badunit Badunit Nov 2, 2015 11:19 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 2, 2015 11:19 AM in response to Csound1

    Why so snarky?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 2, 2015 11:21 AM in response to Badunit
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    Nov 2, 2015 11:21 AM in response to Badunit

    If you want to interpret that as snarky please feel free.

     

    I prefer to go by what Apple says about their software, you may not, it's your choice. But other users should think twice before making their choice.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Nov 2, 2015 11:34 AM in response to Badunit
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    Nov 2, 2015 11:34 AM in response to Badunit

    Photos is really just a wrapper for calls to system frameworks.  Just compare the sizes.

    • Photos: 53.9 MB
    • iPhoto: 1.7 GB
    • Aperture: 1.2 GB

     

    The Photos.app has just the size of a large RAW image file. All the functionality is buried in the OS.

  • by Badunit,

    Badunit Badunit Nov 2, 2015 11:46 AM in response to léonie
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    Nov 2, 2015 11:46 AM in response to léonie

    Which further leads me to believe the app itself is unnecessary.  And, before someone feels the need to post again, I already know that is a conjecture and not a statement from Apple, thank you.

     

    It is unfortunate Apple has made Photos act the way it does and made it unable to be disabled.  I guess the best we can do is hope for an update.  A simple checkbox in Photos preferences that says "Open Photos when a camera is detected" would be sufficient versus having to answer the exact same question for each and every cameras or card it detects. Maybe they thought they were being more flexible the way they did it but didn't take into account that camera cards get reformatted, turning them into "new" devices again and again.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 2, 2015 11:53 AM in response to Badunit
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    Nov 2, 2015 11:53 AM in response to Badunit

    Something like this maybe?

    Screen Shot 2015-11-02 at 13.52.22.png

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Nov 2, 2015 12:00 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 2, 2015 12:00 PM in response to Csound1

    That is exact the problem Csound1.  It is getting tedious to have to disable this option for each and every card we own, and to do it again and again, when we reformat the card to erase it. It wouldn't be so bad, if we only imported from a a few iPhones and iPads. But with twenty or more cards to a camera it is a nuisance.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 2, 2015 12:02 PM in response to léonie
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    Nov 2, 2015 12:02 PM in response to léonie

    I don't see that, whichever option I choose stays put, reboots and reformats dont affect it.

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