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Q: Don't give up on Aperture

I think that giving up on Aperture and accepting its demise is not our only option, Aperture is by far the best digital photo application that Apple (or indeed any other software developer) have created and as such, must not be allowed to disappear.

If we all create a groundswell of opinion we can persuade them to reinstate this Rolls Royce of an application. Lets unite, and rise up to remind Apple that Adobe cannot be the provsole digital photo platform on the planet.

Posted on Sep 16, 2015 8:11 AM

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  • by Red Robin,

    Red Robin Red Robin Nov 27, 2015 12:54 AM in response to Wahb
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    Nov 27, 2015 12:54 AM in response to Wahb

    Wahb wrote:

     

    My "App" is how I keep a roof over my family's head. There's really nothing more damaging that Apple could have done to me, my business and my family than abandon Aperture in the way in which they did.

     

     

    ....Of course I greatly sympathise but by giving up on Apple (as you have stated in another recent post) because of Aperture development ending, you are throwing out the baby with the bath water, or cutting off your nose to spite your face, as the well known expressions say.

     

    You have more than one option and probably the easiest one for you is to simply keep the Mac hardware which runs Aperture as a dedicated tool. At some stage in the future possibly buy a new Mac machine to run other software while still keeping Aperture on the dedicated Mac - In fact you could then delete everything else from it.

     

    Or bite the bullet and don't be afraid of change - Buy Capture One Pro for future image editing and Media Pro for image management or other such software which will do the job just as well as Aperture does (if not better!).

     

    It's entirely up to you to think positive and solve your own problems. I would not hold your breath expecting Apple to do a massive U-turn on Aperture.

  • by freediverx01,

    freediverx01 freediverx01 Nov 27, 2015 5:04 AM in response to Red Robin
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    Nov 27, 2015 5:04 AM in response to Red Robin

    Red Robin wrote:

     

    Or bite the bullet and don't be afraid of change - Buy Capture One Pro for future image editing and Media Pro for image management or other such software which will do the job just as well as Aperture does (if not better!).

     

     

    As many have repeatedly pointed out, none of those tools can hold a candle to Aperture's DAM, workflows, usability, or ease of use. They are inferior products that work completely differently from Aperture and would require an enormous effort to migrate an existing library and adapt one's workflows to its deficiencies and idiosyncrasies. Suggesting that someone switch from Aperture to one of these alternatives is tantamount to suggesting that a Mac user switch to Windows.

     

    On the topic of tools va. toys, the Macbook and iMac product line as we know it will likely be abandoned far sooner than any of us imagine, to make way for a new breed of iPad Pro-like devices. Tim Cook's comments suggest that in the not too distant future what we think of today as a computer will be abandoned by Apple as specialized "trucks" while they focus on consumer devices that are of no use to anyone doing serious work. It won't happen overnight. We will likely see a slowing down of product development for Macs, fewer models and less frequent updates, until the product line is as stagnant as the Mac Pro and is eventually retired for lack of interest.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 27, 2015 7:33 AM in response to freediverx01
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    Nov 27, 2015 7:33 AM in response to freediverx01

    Much speculation going on, but in spite of that there are a few facts.

     

    1 Aperture has been deprecated, there will be no further development

    2 At some point in the future Aperture will stop working on versions of OSX yet to be released.

     

    The choice then will be, use some other application, don't use some other application (keep an older system for use with Aperture), get a new career.

     

    The choice will always be yours.

  • by freediverx01,

    freediverx01 freediverx01 Nov 27, 2015 7:38 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 27, 2015 7:38 AM in response to Csound1

    We're all perfectly aware of this but in the meantime we will continue to use this and other forums to express our frustration and disappointment with Apple. Perhaps someone from Apple will read some of these comments and consider a change in direction sometime.  Or, looking at it from another perspective, perhaps some pro users who currently rely on Apple will make note of this change in the company's strategy and begin their migration away from other Apple pro products which have not yet been abandoned.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 27, 2015 7:41 AM in response to freediverx01
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    Nov 27, 2015 7:41 AM in response to freediverx01

    You are free to ppst whatever you want, as am I.

     

    I prefer to keep the post grounded in reality though. Speculation = guesswork.

  • by David Strait,

    David Strait David Strait Nov 27, 2015 7:55 AM in response to Wahb
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    Nov 27, 2015 7:55 AM in response to Wahb

    Wahb,

    It’s true that the Mac as evolved more slowly (recently) than the iOS devices. However, the Mac is over 30 years old and the personal computer is about 35 years old (i.e. it’s mature technology). The iOS devices are 8 years old and I would argue that their evolution has slowed considerably in the past few years as they begin to mature.

     

    Your complaint about the changing focus of Apple is similar to other complaints I recall when Apple went from System 9 to OS X. Many people claimed it was the end of the Mac. Perhaps they were right… My current Mac doesn’t hardly  resemble my first 128k Mac that I bought in 1984. However, I prefer the one I have now. Perhaps my current Mac will eventually evolve into something I wouldn’t recognize today. I suspect it will still do what I want it to do.

     

    I am just as disappointed with the demise of Aperture as you. I think it’s too bad tat Apple wouldn’t consider selling it to someone else to develop, but there are probably good business reasons not to do this (I can think of a few). I don’t expect any business to do anything that isn’t in their interest. 

     

    Last, it makes sense for you to abandon Apple products if you have better options on another platform (presumably Windows). Do you?

     

    I have aways used Apple products for my personal computing (well… at least since the Mac came out, I actually started with a TRS-80… yikes!). However, I have used Windows, UNIX, Linux and several other operating systems for decades in my professional life. At least I can honestly say that windows doesn’t completely suck any more (unlike Linux & UNIX). However, I still wouldn’t use it unless I had no other choice.

     

    Make sure you make the right choice.

     

    Dave

  • by Badunit,

    Badunit Badunit Nov 28, 2015 2:59 PM in response to David Strait
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    Nov 28, 2015 2:59 PM in response to David Strait

    I have reluctantly chosen to move to Lightroom. I bought a copy last night. I figure it is the "standard", the best supported replacement, and its asset management features are better than Capture One. So, contrary to the title of this thread, I have given up on Aperture.

     

    I, too, started with a TRS-80. Fun times.

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Nov 28, 2015 9:11 PM in response to Red Robin
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    Nov 28, 2015 9:11 PM in response to Red Robin

    You have more than one option and probably the easiest one for you is to simply keep the Mac hardware which runs Aperture as a dedicated tool. At some stage in the future possibly buy a new Mac machine to run other software while still keeping Aperture on the dedicated Mac

     

    I know several people doing exactly that for their movie editing. They need to use iMovie HD 06 and iDVD so they have a dedicated Mac for that job, and that job only.

     

    Or bite the bullet and don't be afraid of change - Buy Capture One Pro for future image editing and Media Pro for image management or other such software which will do the job just as well as Aperture does (if not better!).

     

    I would be happy to do that, but Aperture has the ability to display any metadata underneath the thumbnails.  Both Capture One and Lightroom are incapable of this.  For my engineering and scientific work, I MUST be able to display keywords under the thumbnails.

     

    Maybe "Lyn" ?

  • by Red Robin,

    Red Robin Red Robin Nov 29, 2015 1:07 AM in response to Ziatron
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    Nov 29, 2015 1:07 AM in response to Ziatron

    Ziatron wrote:

     

    Or bite the bullet and don't be afraid of change - Buy Capture One Pro for future image editing and Media Pro for image management or other such software which will do the job just as well as Aperture does (if not better!).

     

    I would be happy to do that, but Aperture has the ability to display any metadata underneath the thumbnails.  Both Capture One and Lightroom are incapable of this.  For my engineering and scientific work, I MUST be able to display keywords under the thumbnails.

     

    Maybe "Lyn" ?

     

    ....Phase One, who develop Capture One Pro, offer Media Pro as a dedicated management application. It looks extremely comprehensive and there is a free 30-day trial. I would be surprised if it doesn't offer metadata display but I haven't downloaded the 30-day free trial yet.

  • by AFS_BR,

    AFS_BR AFS_BR Nov 29, 2015 11:22 AM in response to Gerald Gifford
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    Nov 29, 2015 11:22 AM in response to Gerald Gifford

    Affinity Photo really rocks. It's still growing but it's very capable and afordable and compatible with many Photoshop plug-ins.

     

    I'll keep using Aperture along with other softwares, but NOT any one from Adobe. I'll never use a subscription based software.

     

    Photos is a bad joke with Aperture users.   

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 29, 2015 11:31 AM in response to AFS_BR
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    Nov 29, 2015 11:31 AM in response to AFS_BR

    Photos is a free utility, comparing it with Aperture is the joke

  • by AFS_BR,

    AFS_BR AFS_BR Nov 29, 2015 1:39 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 29, 2015 1:39 PM in response to Csound1

    Funny, the joke may be the way you address to other people here.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 29, 2015 1:50 PM in response to AFS_BR
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    Nov 29, 2015 1:50 PM in response to AFS_BR

    Have it your way then, it certainly does not affect me. I can tell the difference quite easily.

  • by AFS_BR,

    AFS_BR AFS_BR Nov 29, 2015 1:57 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 29, 2015 1:57 PM in response to Csound1

    Of course.

  • by Gerald Gifford,

    Gerald Gifford Gerald Gifford Nov 29, 2015 2:51 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 29, 2015 2:51 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Photos is a free utility, comparing it with Aperture is the joke

    Isn't that a little bit like what Apple did?

     

     

     

    p.s.- Have you thought of using a quote to make your answers better understood?

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