Q: Don't give up on Aperture

When did Apple compare Photos to Aperture, post a link please.

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Csound1 wrote:

 

When did Apple compare Photos to Aperture, post a link please.

Please read what I wrote carefully. "Isn't that a little bit like what Apple did?" In other words, didn't Apple sort of compare Photos, IPhoto, and Aperture when it decided to drop Aperture in favor of Photos?

Photos is a very nice piece of software for what it does, but thinking it might be a substitute for Aperture isn't logical in my mind. And, no, I don't think Apple compared them one to one, but they certainly gave the definite impression to me that Photos was meant to replace Aperture.

"The shoe has finally dropped. Apple confirmed today that it’s ditching Aperture, its photo management tool, and iPhoto, its consumer photo editing app, in favor of Photos, a brand new desktop and iOS duo slated for debut in 2015." - http://thenextweb.com/creativity/2014/06/27/demise-apples-aperture-iphoto-mean/

Sorry if you don't agree. That's your right. I think some Apple folks felt the world didn't need Aperture because there was a Photos App. That's my opinion.

Jerry

Csound1 wrote:

 

If you don't understand something please indicate which part you're having trouble with.

This is a perfect example. What is it you think I don't understand? What is it I am supposed to understand?

Jerry

No, it's not even close.

Which (along with this) is a perfect example of you not understanding.

Thank you.

I am not a happy camper with Apple's decision to ditch Aperture but I am not aware of a single piece of literature or a single statement from Apple that compared Photos to Aperture. They ditched Aperture plain and simple with no replacement, not even a lame one. In fact, one of the things in their favor is that they did not try to pass off Photos as any kind of a replacement for Aperture.

I almost hate to post in this thread again now that it has died down. But...

My time with Lightroom was short. It may be a powerful application but it makes no sense to me. I'm sure that if I got over the learning curve I would no longer be wondering what it is going to do or where my photos are going to go or why something works some times and not others. But I have returned it instead. I'm going to give Capture One another look. I see version 9 is available.

I did a little comparison between Aperture 3.6 and Capture One Pro 9 last night using some Nikon NEF files (not my files I use Canon).

It seemed to me that there was a considerable difference in white balance and saturation rendering. In COP9 the white balance was warmer and the colour saturation higher. Subjectively Aperture looked more natural, COP9 more "in yer face!"

I was using Aperture yesterday and I had a message that Aperture was updating, trying to figure out what that was all about....Apple please bring it back, we obviously didn't mind paying for it, there is really nothing out there that compares to it. I will keep an older computer on the earlier operating systems that I will be able to use it with. Since I can still access IDVD maybe it will stay around a lot longer.

My trial of Capture One isn't going so well. I finished importing my Aperture catalog this morning. I adjusted one image and it locked up.  I had no choice but to force quit because it was slowing my entire computer to a crawl. Now it crashes every time it tries to open my catalog.

EDIT: Repaired catalog. Hopefully it is all there. It started up at least.

Badunit wrote:

 

My trial of Capture One isn't going so well. I finished importing my Aperture catalog this morning. I adjusted one image and it locked up.  I had no choice but to force quit because it was slowing my entire computer to a crawl. Now it crashes every time it tries to open my catalog.

EDIT: Repaired catalog. Hopefully it is all there. It started up at least.

Hmm, I'm not so brave. I don't mix the two.

All picture files are on a USB hard disk and referenced in Aperture. If I want to try COP9 I copy files from the USB to a folder on the desk top.

I have had some "spinning wheels" with COP9 on OSX Yos. but they have cleared after a couple of mins. I have also been testing COP8 on Win 7 (64) without issue.

After my comparison last night I have been put off COP9 a little but will try it with some Canon RAW's also. I may also take my MBP to the church where the pictures were taken to see which rendering is the closest.

The fact that PHOTOS do not have "skin smoothing" feature is a deal breaker for me.

I'll use Aperture as long as it continues to work. After that, it may be Light Room.

Just to be clear, I didn't touch my real Aperture library. I copied the library to a separate drive, changed all of it from managed to referenced, then imported into Capture One. I am running Aperture in parallel through all this testing; importing my images twice.

Canon raw files are apparently a major problem for Capture One right now.  It seems to have a huge memory leak while creating the previews.  If you generate too many at a time (a few thousand), it will slow your computer to a crawl and Capture One will lock up tight requiring a force quit. It totally destroyed the first catalog I created (the one that I was able to get working again after a previous crash). It is possible this leak was the cause of the earlier crash, too.

I think Apple have made a fundamental mistake in getting rid of Aperture and going for an inferior system.  It's not just that Photo's "adjustments" are less capable than Aperture, it is everything about it.  It has made a complete mess of my Smart Albums when migrating from Aperture, and it doesn't interface with Flickr properly either.  There is so much, but I won't go on.  Problem is, I've already migrated my database, so does anyone know if I can convert back to Aperture, or am I now stuck with it?