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Podcast App iOS9 -- Good and Bad discussion

Curious to get a dialogue started. I personally feel that Apple really doesn't work on their App (or take it seriously) or they would have long ago integrated features from other apps (Downcast, Overcast, etc.). I feel each update is pretty incomplete and if they would work a bit harder, they could make a good product.


The worst issue, for me, is the Episode List spacing. It's bloated now, with worthless descriptions, making it so much more tedious to scroll through and look at episodes. (This is my main complaint with the Unplayed Tab). This app needs a compact view badly.


Good

1. Music App style play window -- this feature isn't critical, but adds a nice option of controls while looking through your list It's not user friendly (it's so small and cumbersome that someone like my dad couldn't use it well), but the idea is nice.


2. Unplayed tab idea -- notice i said idea. I like the thought that you can go to one screen and play all your new podcasts in a row. (my problem will be listed later)


3. My Podcasts -- seems cleaner to me, though i think the change is small


4. Podcast playing screen -- the added space is cleaner and makes it easier for my fat fingers to use


Bad

1. Oversized Episode List -- (makes it much harder to scroll through and see your episodes). It includes an unnecessary clip of the "description" of the episode...which is never informative and a waste of space. In the 20+ podcasts I have, not one has any useful information there that I will ever look at. Such a waste of space. They need to offer a compact size.

I think that this is really bad design....I like the "more" button to press for additional info, but why crowd the visible space? Terrible idea.


2. On the Go -- it's gone and you can't get it back. Stations do not work because it includes an entire Podcast. Creating a playlist can't be done. You can only add to "Up Next", which is a terrible/poor substitute.


3. Unplayed Tab -- the spacing is bad (needs a more compact design), and the fact that this is the startup screen is annoying. You should be able to change it to go to "My Podcasts" or rearrange them. Annoying.


4. Fullscreen -- i didn't use this feature very often, but I notice many people commenting on this.



Overall I feel that they didn't make the app better, it's a push at best for me. They took features away, and added one/two (Music App style player, Unplayed Tab). The Oversized lists will make me not use this app. I will go back to Downcast (which I still use for several podcasts) or Overcast.


I'm always confused by Apple's updated. They push things that aren't better, (the podcast app has sucked for so long)....and their approach to their apps (and app design) is opposite from what they do with their Hardware. The hardware is fantastic...but the apps are just poorly thought out and executed. Maybe its a software thing the don't get. iTunes is a design trainwreck. White on light gray color scene....it's the worst thing I have ever used. So impossible to distinguish between things....it's a giant leap backwards.

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Posted on Sep 18, 2015 1:08 PM

I'm having a hard time believing how bad this update is:

1. No on-the-go, or custom playlists of individual episodes

2. No fullscreen option for video

3. INCREDIBLY laggy on my (admittedly ancient) 4S, to the point where it took so long to play I thought the phone had crashed. I was going crazy searching for the play button, before realizing that holding down on the podcast description was 'meant' to play it.

4. Using the Play Next feature, I left the app, and after playing audio from a different source, went back and found that it had forgotten the podcast I was in the middle of. Had to go back and find it again.


I'm a huge fan of Apple generally, and the last version of Podcasts was fine for me, used it daily, but, between this update, and what they did with iBooks, I'm having serious doubts about Apple going forward.

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Sep 25, 2015 9:31 AM in response to clodene

clodene wrote:


I am so happy I found this discussion. Now I know it isn't just me. Every time they update this app they make it worse. Do those who create these updates actually use the app? Apple, come on fix it.


I for one really, really miss the "on the go" option. I set out for a bike ride after I have created the assortment of podcast episodes I want to listen to. They are often not the most recent and they hardly ever line up as from one podcast. I cannot think that anyone who really uses this podcast app would make it so difficult to use. If they do not fix it soon I will find an alternative. I am an Apple lover but this app stinks.


I was looking for an alternative and found Overcast. It seems to work well on the Apple watch too. The only reason I've decided to try staying with the Apple podcast app is that I like it to sync automatically with my podcasts in iTunes.

Sep 25, 2015 10:28 AM in response to tincha

This is all really, really depressing.


BUT: I think I've found that you can create playlists (of older episodes, in the order you **** well wanted, etc.), and sync from iTunes. It's still a terrible UI, but in a wee little line at the top of My Podcasts, there's "iTunes Playlists", which is what you probably wanted in the first place. Sorry for the large images.

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Sep 25, 2015 4:55 PM in response to startrekmom

This app really needs:

-podcast playlist generated by the user, besides any automatic unplayed list only.

-list of downloaded podcasts.

For the first: You can generate lots of different playlists with lots of different specifications. Go to the "My Podcasts" tab, press the "+" at the top, and then choose what you want. If you've got a specific kind of playlist in mind, ask here and someone may have suggestions.


For the second, a list of downloaded podcasts: isn't that what the "Unplayed" pane is? What I see is a list of all the unplayed podcasts, starting with the most recent. I've also made a few stations that I see in the "My Podcasts" tab that show me the same information in different ways: in the default order I set in the "My Podcasts" tab (choose "Edit", then move podcasts up or down); from oldest to newest; and in manual order, which I can shift around as I want to. I guessthis is similar to what On-the-Go used to do, but I never used that function, so I'm not sure.


Note that if you choose one of your podcast stations, you can scroll down to the bottom of it, and you'll see "Download all", either greyed out (presumably meaning you've downloaded all of them) or in sharper colours. That may help a bit.


Now, if you mean a list of all episodes that are on your phone, played or unplayed - yeah, that'd be nice. Apple's taken too much of the file management out of our hands. I wish in the Station Settings there were also an "On this device" tag. Supposedly those played podcasts are disappearing after 24 hours, but I'm not sure how much I believe that, and I'm annoyed by the 2GB+ of memory that "Documents & Data" is taking up within the Podcasts app memory.


For providing different ways to choose what you want to play, I think the new Podcasts app is the best yet (yes, it's very non-intuitive, and I wish it were still folded into music and hadn't been hived off into a new app in the first place!). My main issues with the new app are that (1) some of the buttons are too small on my iPhone 5 (I'm so sick of pressing three dots or trying to get more information and instead starting to play the podcast!); (2) playback stops for no apparent reason far too often, and restarting playback seems to take an almost random sequence of closings and openings and selections; and (3) I have no idea why it sometimes downloads and sometimes doesn't download episodes, and I sure wish it'd sort that out before I left wifi range.

Sep 26, 2015 2:41 PM in response to ajrunner

In My Podcasts, previously a number at the right was used to show the number of unplayed episodes, and if there were none, then this area was left blank (instead of using a 0). This made it easy to see which podcasts had 2 or more unplayed episodes (so I could delete the oldest one if I decided to skip it for good).


Now we have phrases such as "1 unplayed episode" and "No unplayed episodes" in a light gray. I would at least like to see the number bolded (but not the "No") so that My Podcasts would be easier to scan.


I know that we now have an Unplayed list. But this sorts by date, so it's not easy to tell from this list if a podcast has more than one unplayed episode.

Sep 27, 2015 10:32 AM in response to Community Steve

This is a correction to my previous post. I would like the numbers to be black and bolded (not gray and bolded).


2 unplayed episodes

1 unplayed episode

No unplayed episodes



Previous Post Corrected:


In My Podcasts, previously a number at the right was used to show the number of unplayed episodes, and if there were none, then this area was left blank (instead of using a 0). This made it easy to see which podcasts had 2 or more unplayed episodes (so I could delete the oldest one if I decided to skip it for good).


Now we have phrases such as "1 unplayed episode" and "No unplayed episodes" in a light gray. I would at least like to see the number black and bolded (but not the "No") so that My Podcasts would be easier to scan.


I know that we now have an Unplayed list. But this sorts by date, so it's not easy to tell from this list if a podcast has more than one unplayed episode.

Sep 27, 2015 12:33 PM in response to teralkds_asd09

It seems every time Apple touches the Podcasts App, they keep making it worse. This time with iOS 9, it's by far the worse. It's seems that the developer for this app doesn't even listen to Podcasts so there's no understanding or appreciation. I miss the simple "tile" look showing "my podcasts". I miss "add to on the go" so I can quickly create a playlist to go jogging or for commuting. If it's there, then it's not obvious. My podcasts don't even update like they used too. Just to open a particular podcast is cumbersome, and the slide to fast forward or back to a section is not the most responsive. This is how bad it is: I just started reusing my kid's old iPod Touch 4th gen with iOS 6. PLEASE APPLE go back to iOS 6 and look how simple the podcasts app used to be. There's even a refresh button there; I missed not having that even with iOS 7 & 8. What was point of changing this App!?!

Sep 27, 2015 12:35 PM in response to clodene

To reply to the "too much trouble to make a playlist in iTunes", here is my daily use case:


I'd like to listen to: a six-month-old episode of Philosophy Talk, the most current Wait, What episode, a three-week-old UIE podcast, a UX Eye podcast from a year ago, and a two-year-old This American Life that I've heard before but want to hear again. In that order. Not the "most recent episode" of these podcasts, nor in alphabetical order, etc. And tomorrow I will edit that list depending on what I got through or make a new one. How can create, curate, keep up that in the Podcast app?


The Podcast app (and, to be fair, Overcast and other podcast apps) seem determined to serve only people who want to subscribe and listen to an arbitrarily ordered "latest unplayed".

Sep 27, 2015 2:22 PM in response to Mr. Spills

I just got back from the Apple store. I got the recommended guy who they say can figure anything out. After about 15 minutes he gave up and said sorry but I recommend you download another podcast app. How silly is this that Apple would screw this up. And I agree each update is worse than the one before it. How can we get Apple to pay attention to this issue. Isn't there someone from Apple that monitors these conversations?

Sep 27, 2015 2:29 PM in response to twoangstroms

I gave up on this piece of junk a day into iOS9 and tried a few paid options, then settled on Overcast. You can definitely curate playlists in the way you described with this app as although it can order episodes based on date or a custom priority rating (that works well for me), you can also manually reorder episodes in any way you like by drag and drop.

Sep 27, 2015 2:58 PM in response to ajrunner

I liked being able to make a podcast playlist on itunes on my Mac and then sync to my iphone.

The larger screen and keyboard made it (for me) so much easier. Arranging they in the exact order I wanted and deleting unwanted episodes was a breeze.


After this latest podcast app horror story I gave up and started using Overcast. It's better than the latest Apple app (what isn't) but isn't perfect and I miss being able to make a playlist on a computer then put it on the phone.


Anybody know a podcasting app that will let you make playlists from a computer?

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