will iPhoto work with El Capitan ?

I didn't read the discussion. I am running El Capitan and there is no iPhoto. It is grayed out in Applications and the message is that a compatible version of iPhoto can be downloaded from the Apple Store. The message is that iPhoto is not available in the U.S. Apple Store.

#PickingUpThePieces

As posted in this and many, many other threads:

If you currently own iPhoto 11:

Go to the App Store and check out the Purchases List. If iPhoto is there then it will be v9.6.1

If it is there, then drag your existing iPhoto app (not the library, just the app) to the trash

Install the App from the App Store.

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Sometimes iPhoto is not visible on the Purchases List. it may be hidden. See this article for details on how to unhide it.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4928

One question often asked: Will I lose my Photos if I reinstall?

iPhoto the application and the iPhoto Library are two different parts of the iPhoto programme. So, reinstalling the app should not affect the Library. BUT you should always have a back up before doing this kind of work. Always.

can you give me instructions on how to update my iphoto

Read through this thread, it is already explained several times. If you do not want to read, just follow the instructions in the post of Terence Devlin, just above your post...

I agree with your post and the previous one. I see Photos as a complete dumbing-down to cater to those who mostly take selfies and images of their meals using their phones as their only camera. I started using iPhoto as a rank amateur photographer but have progressed to the point where some of my work is published in books, professional websites, and in journals. The application has served me well as an organizer, but I outgrew its editing capabilities some time ago. However, iPhoto has the wonderful option of editing in an external editor - I use Photoshop Elements - and saving edits directly back to the iPhoto library without unduly expanding the workflow. This functionality is lost in Photos - yes, I know there is now the option to use some sort of editing apps but not PE. It might be possible to accustom myself to Photos if this function were available.

Just for the benefit of other folks who may read this thread: there is no way that Photos can be considered anything remotely like "a complete dumbing-down" of iPhoto, even if it is missing one feature that you prefer. It is a far more capable editor than iPhoto and the entire cross platform/ seamless editing and management feature is a huge advance. Once Adobe write the hooks it will be possible to use PE with Photos too - but that's Adobe's job.

I will say this, the number of folks who sneer at other users and the photos they choose to take is disturbing. As for the iPhone being their only camera? Snobbery much?

Snobbery? Hardly. I use my phone for selfies and such as well. My point is I also take serious semi-professional photos using DSLR's and often shooting in RAW format. These images require more powerful editing and organizational tools that my iPhone and iPad fun photos. I found those capabilities in iPhoto used in conjunction with Photoshop Elements with a seamless workflow incorporating both, and they are essential to me. I feel that Apple has pulled the rug out from under photographers like me, and I think we are numerous.
As for the cross-device Cloud feature, again I would contend that that is also a feature geared toward the casual phone photographer. I have photo libraries totaling almost 300 GB in size. It is impractical, undesirable, and unnecessary for me to have access to all of them, for instance, from my phone, never mind the expense.
I'm just saying there are two distinctly different target audiences here, with disparate needs, and it would seem that two applications might be needed to serve them both or, if one only, then one that at least does not lose valuable features that customers have come to depend on.

If it's not snobbery why mention it at all? Photos has the same Raw capacity as iPhoto has. I shoot with a DSLR too and I shoot Raw all the time, not just 'often' but so what? Whether I shoot with it or a phone or my wife's P&S superzoom all I shoot are photographs and they're all serious. I don't have any requirement for the cross-platform element either. I took a look at Photos and realised that, like iPhoto, it wasn't a good fit for my needs and found something else that was. But I don't regard iPhoto as a bad app, and to say that Photos - which is significantly more powerful - is dumbed-down is factually incorrect. Both apps are really quite good at what they are designed to do.

Apple has done nothing to you at all. You have lost zero features. You can continue to use iPhoto or do something else. Apple don't have to make software for every scenario and they don't. There are other developers who offer other applications. That's what makes healthy ecosystem.

Look, I have no desire to argue about this, not to be accused of sneering at others for that matter. I think I explained why I mentioned it. Two categories of use - two sets of needs. Completely fail to see snobbery there, as I fit into both categories. Photos would work fine for the one thing, currently not for the other. I daresay Photos does have the same RAW processing capacity as iPhoto; however, I use the RAW processor in PE, along with a number of third party add-ons not accessible in iPhoto. Once again, my point is that iPhoto allows me to use it as an organizational tool but to do more powerful and extensive editing in Photoshop Elements with a seamless interface between the two. That is essential to my workflow. It would be nice if that were possible in Photos, given that a day will come when iPhoto will not work with some system upgrade. Migrating to an alternate application will be an enormous job, and, based on my research to date, there will be losses of one kind or another. I have expressed my opinion. You have expressed yours. Maybe we can be done with it.

You are right. The downgrading or whatever you call it of Iphotos is a disaster for users. Particularly those who don't want to (or know how to) experiment and just want to read, write, and exchange messages.

As of today, I can no longer link photographs from Iphotos to Gmails. When I try to make an attachment from iPhotos, the library folder doesn't open and gmail tries to attach the entire library. It does this by making all my iPhoto images into a zip file. Absurd and irritating.

I experimented a bit, was told to download the iPhoto library upgrader. I did and tried to run it. I was then told that my library was not old enough to need upgrading.

Then I was told that it needed some repairs. I ran that. The library is still there. Fine. But it will not open on Gmail attachment. And the files---a library inside the photo library are more cumbersome to find.

A really badly designed and customer-unfriendly change you have made Apple. And you have wasted two or three hours of time when I wanted to be getting on with my work.

You have an issue local to your machine. It is not a factor of iPhoto, Photos or anything else.

There is no way to ever open an iPhoto Library from any attachment window, never has been. So you need to explain exactly what your problem is, what app you are using (i can't tell from your post if it's Photos or iPhoto) and what you're using for Gmail.

"My point is I also take serious semi-professional photos using DSLR's and often shooting in RAW format. These images require more powerful editing and organizational tools that my iPhone and iPad fun photos"

Then you need a photography learning course.

Terence: I admire you for your incredible perseverance,

I have no trouble making attachments with images in other photo files in 'Pictures' or with documents etc. But so too is an unopenable file which says it is the Iphoto library and another which is the 'Photos' library. The problem is that all my recent photographs --taken since I acquired this Mac -- are in the Photos library and it will not open for a Gmail attachment. (It will open if I go to it via 'Finder' or 'Path Finder.' All my pictures uploaded to my Mac Book over the last three years are there. So I haven't lost them.

But something has changed. I definitely did not change it and it must be a consequence of the changes that came in since I installed El Capitan. There used to be a 'photos' icon on the side bar of finder and the attachment pane for Gmail. It was down towards the bottom. Is there any way to get it back?

Thanks for your advice by the way!

You mean this?

Yes!