Processor upgrade recommendations- MacPro 5,1

Hi everyone,


I'm thinking of upgrading the processor on my MacPro 5,1 (mid 2010).

I've done processor upgrades (and overclocks) on my old G3 and my G4, but am kind of a neophyte on processor upgrades on the 5,1.


Here are my specs:

Model Identifier:MacPro5,1
Processor Name:Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed:2.8 GHz
Number of Processors:1
Total Number of Cores:4
L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB
L3 Cache:8 MB
Memory:32 GB- 4x8GB DDR3 ECC 1066 MHz
Processor Interconnect Speed:4.8 GT/s
Boot ROM Version:MP51.007F.B03
SMC Version (system):1.39f11
SMC Version (processor tray):1.39f11
Serial Number (system):•••••••••••
Serial Number (processor tray):•••••••••••••
Hardware UUID:3•••B•••-•••A-5846-B•••-B••••••••••*


I've checked out the YouTube videos. The upgrade looks fairly straightforward.


My question is- which processor should I be looking at to noticeably boost performance. I was thinking of a 6 core 3+ GHz processor, but I'm not sure which one (nor am I sure which one would be compatible with my 5,1). + Would the processor upgrade support 1333 MHz RAM?

What I'd really like is a dual processor upgrade, but that may be out of my price range.


Any recommendations/info/help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Mac Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10.5), 2.8 GHz Quad Core- Intel

Posted on Sep 24, 2015 9:27 PM

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Sep 25, 2015 7:09 AM in response to RAfBOy

If you look here http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/index-macpro.html you can see all the standard configurations of Mac Pro. It would clearly be safer and simpler to upgrade yours to another standard configuration. Therefore 1 x 3.33 GHz 6 Core Xeon W3680 would be the logical choice.


On a MacPro 5,1 this is as simple as unscrewing and removing the heatsink unclipping the processor, fitting a new processor, cleaning the heatsink, applying fresh heatsink compound, and putting it all back together.


However to be able to use 1333MHz RAM I believe requires having dual processors and yours appears to be a single quad-core processor. Your processor interconnect speed would also not change for the same reason. Also the maximum RAM is similarly limited compared to a dual processor system.


It is possible to 'upgrade' to a dual-processor configuration but this requires exchanging the entire CPU system tray and will therefore cost significantly more.

Sep 25, 2015 7:43 AM in response to John Lockwood

Thanks for the tip. Very helpful.


I'm pretty confident with the upgrade needs, after having watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cP-dGwoX90


I'm aware that, without doing a tray swap, I'm limited to a single processor upgrade.

OWC does have a turnkey program and will swap my single processor tray for a dual, but the prices are prohibitive (to me).

I did see a nice dual processor option on ebay:

http://goo.gl/2OGljt

And if I do get the dual processor tray, I could conceivably max out my RAM to 128 GB (in the future).


I wasn't aware that I'm currently limited to the 1066 RAM speed with my single processor. Thanks for that info.

Yet another reason to consider the dual processor option.


Thanks again.

Sep 25, 2015 10:30 AM in response to RAfBOy

RAfBOy wrote:


A couple of questions:


What's the difference between the W3680 and the W5680?

Can I over clock the W3680 (and is it safe)?

None of Apple's Mac Pro models it appears used the W5680 chips. On that basis I would steer away from it. The W3680 was used by Apple.


I believe the difference maybe the number of memory buses. I am not an expert in this but perhaps the W5680 might therefore be more intended for dual processor configurations whereas the W3680 might be for your single processor system.


Again I have no experience of overclocking, I bought two X5675 chips to go in my dual processor 2010 Mac Pro. These were the same model of chip as used by Apple so there was no problems doing this.


I can say that overclocking means the fans would run faster and louder, and the computer would be more likely to eventually overheat and fail. This does not means it will do so, just that it will be more likely to. Apple will have only tested and tuned for certain configurations. Apparently my dual X5675 is the top official configuration Apple ever used. I believe some people have gone for faster chips than my 3.06GHz ones e.g. 3.33GHz but I have no idea how you overclock on the Mac logic board.

Sep 25, 2015 2:28 PM in response to RAfBOy

Ignore all previous advice, none is any good.


Lots of factual errors.


You can use a W3690, you will be limited to 56GB of RAM but it can run at 1333. W3680 is 3.33, W3690 is 3.46


If you use a X5690 you will be able to use 64GB, also at 1333. Again, X5680 is 3.33 and X5690 is 3.46


I am not quoting a guy I read somewhere once, I am reporting setups I have tried. They work, and they work fine.


In fact, the RAM in your machine may already be 1333, check it out.


I would advise reading up either at Macrumours or Netkas.org on this topic.


Or just try googling "X5690 Mac Pro".


(BTW, one guy at MR found that 32GB sticks also worked, so possible RAM maximums may in fact go up)

Sep 25, 2015 4:43 PM in response to RAfBOy

If you have not already upgraded to at least a separate fast Boot Drive and preferably an SSD Boot drive and separate drives for Source and Destination files when doing I/O intensive editing, that is the step you should take before a processor upgrade.


User Tip: Creating a lean, fast Boot Drive


Many Mac Pros are I/O bound, NOT compute-bound. Check Activity Monitor > CPU when doing your most processor-intensive operations. ¿Are all cycles used up, or is there still some idle? You may not see much benefit from a Processor upgrade.

Sep 25, 2015 9:50 PM in response to DPArt

So can the W5690 3.46 GHz processor be used on a single processor tray, or do they only work in pairs?

Do you know if they run hot?


I believe my Ram is 1333, but is seen as only 1066

I did a part number search (0x463732314755363746393333334700000000), and they seem to be 1333s.

I've read that the stock configuration of my Mac will accept up to 64 GB of RAM. Dual up to 128.

Apr 22, 2016 2:33 PM in response to DPArt

OK. I finally did it. I bought a "lightly used" x5690 3.46 gHz off eBay for $275; replacing my w3530 2.8 gHz.

I installed it, and the benchmark improvements are great AND my RAM is now 1333! 🙂


My question is, what should the temps for the CPU be?


CPU A Diode is around 98º F/37º C

CPU A HeatSink is around 95º F/35º C

CPU A core from PCECI is around 101º F/38º C


That's just from web surfing and e-mail. Nothing heavy going on. (I was diligent about cleaning/purifying/applying thermal compound)


Thanks in advance for any info.

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