andywilx1

Q: Printable photo book backup to iCloud

I am currently creating a series of photo books in Photo Printable Projects and I'm getting a little nervous about the stability of my computer.

Do the printable projects not back up to iCloud and if not how do I back them up?

 

All my photos are now in the cloud and presumably safe but the hours of work I've put into these books are still vulnerable.

 

Is that true?

 

Andy

iMac, OS X Yosemite (10.10.5)

Posted on Sep 28, 2015 10:30 AM

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Sep 28, 2015 10:37 AM in response to andywilx1
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    Sep 28, 2015 10:37 AM in response to andywilx1
    All my photos are now in the cloud and presumably safe but the hours of work I've put into these books are still vulnerable.

    iCloud Photo Library stores your photos, but not the projects.  Make a backup copy of your Photos Library on an external drive.

     

    See this Help page:                 Back up your Photos library      

     

    Back up your Photos library

    Even if you use iCloud Photo Library, it’s important that you always back up your library locally using one of the following methods:

    • Use Time Machine: After you set up Time Machine, it automatically backs up the files on your Mac. If you ever lose the files in your Photos library, you can restore them from the Time Machine backup. For more information about setting up Time Machine, open Time Machine in the Applications folder, then look in the Help menu.
    • Manually copy your library to an external storage device: Drag the Photos library (by default in the Pictures folder on your Mac) to your storage device to create a copy.

    If you have more than one photo library, be sure to back them all up.

    Important: If any of your image files are stored outside your photo library, those files (known as referenced files) aren’t backed up when you back up your library. Be sure to back up these files separately. To make it easier to back up all your image files at once, you can consolidate referenced files into your library. For more information, see Change where Photos stores your files.

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Sep 28, 2015 10:40 AM in response to andywilx1
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    Sep 28, 2015 10:40 AM in response to andywilx1

    Project do not load to iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Library is not a backup - you need a local backup which is why Apple supplies TimeMachine with all Macs

     

    Mac Basics: Time Machine backs up your Mac - Apple Support

     

    iCloud Photo Library FAQ - Apple Support

     

    Do I need a Backup?

    iCloud Photo Library stores all of your original photos and videos in iCloud, but we always recommend you keep back up copies of your Library. You can download your photos and videos from iCloud to your computer and store them as a separate library, transfer them to your computer with iTunes, or store them on a separate drive.

     

    LN

  • by Andy Wilx,

    Andy Wilx Andy Wilx Sep 28, 2015 11:33 PM in response to LarryHN
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    Sep 28, 2015 11:33 PM in response to LarryHN

    thanks for the advice and yes I am fully aware that a physical backup is imporrant, I have two.

    But with 13 years worth of raw photos and video its a lot of backup which started in the days before you could get terror bite drives on the high street.

    IVe already lost three hard drives which failed me.

    I dont think Apple fully appreciate how much data we're collecting. To store all your video, music, movies, photos, documents on an iMac is simply imposible in the days before the cloud.

    SO all librarie are point to bigger external drives that then backup to other drives which means the whole thing is very slow and often fails.

     

    BESIDES... I would like to continue working on my books away from my desk. Photo book data being saved to the cloud would not be heard and very useful.

  • by andywilx1,

    andywilx1 andywilx1 Sep 29, 2015 2:13 AM in response to LarryHN
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    Sep 29, 2015 2:13 AM in response to LarryHN

    Let me explain my predicament, I hope you can help.

     

    I have two macs,

    1. Family Mac

    2. Office Mac

     

    The family mac is used to download photos from our cameras.

    The family mac backs up to iCloud and a NAS drive.

     

    The Office Mac is used for work and is attached to a 2T HD.

    I started a Photo library on the external HD attached to my Office Mac which shared with iCloud, (the same library as the Family Mac).

    That seemed sensible as my Office mac as full of work stuff.

     

    I then proceed to create 12 years worth of Photo Printable Projects 'Photo Books' on my Office mac (remember the Photo Library is built on an external HD not the Mac).

     

    That external HD is now showing signs that it might fail and as Photo Printable Projects are NOT backed up on iCloud I am in danger of loosing all my work (three months worth).

     

    How do I copy that Library, (Photo Books), onto the Family OR Office Mac so it is backed up and safe.

    I have a lot of photos so neither the Family or Office Mac are big enough to hold the whole library so downloading all the photos and video's is not an option.

     

    If I simply copy the library, like we used to be able to do with iPhoto I can't then open it. I get a popup saying

     

    "This library contains items that need to download from the iCloud Photo Library. To download the complete library, delete the incomplete items, then set this library as the System Photo Library in Preferences and enable iCloud Photo Library. This will disable iCloud Photo Library on any other libraries."

    'Delete Incomplete Items' OR 'Quit'

     

    What are the: "INCOMPLETE ITEMS"?

     

    Many Thanks for any help

  • by gazzoUK,

    gazzoUK gazzoUK Sep 5, 2016 2:15 PM in response to andywilx1
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    Sep 5, 2016 2:15 PM in response to andywilx1

    I've got the same problem, my iMac's hard drive is on the way out, some times it doesn't start up, some times it does. I'd like to just drag my book project to a memory stick or preferably back it up on my iCloud account which I'm paying for. I guess as I have a copy of the photos album file, on an external drive, that's backed up the book projects as well. Would still like the security of it being on a cloud backup. Seems like there's still a bit of joined up thinking required at Apple.

     

    Wish Apple would invent drives that are raid hard or solid state drives in one enclosure, so if one of the drives fails, you always have a chance to recover data from the second drive.

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Sep 5, 2016 2:23 PM in response to gazzoUK
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    Sep 5, 2016 2:23 PM in response to gazzoUK

    Same problem? Same answer

     

    LN

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Sep 6, 2016 8:16 AM in response to gazzoUK
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    Sep 6, 2016 8:16 AM in response to gazzoUK
    I've got the same problem, my iMac's hard drive is on the way out, some times it doesn't start up, some times it does. I'd like to just drag my book project to a memory stick or preferably back it up on my iCloud account which I'm paying for.

    Create your book projects in a small, separate Photos Library. Then you can easily copy the separate library to an external drive to backup the book.

     

    But remember, that iCloud Photo Library is not a backup as Larry pointed out earlier in this discussion. iCloud Photo Library is the central working storage of your library that will sync to all devices. You can restore the library (without the face s and the projects) from iCloud, if your drive should fail. But you cannot revert to a previous version if you make any user error - delete accidentally too many photos or batch change all titles or similar blunder.  Then you need a separate backup to restore the library.  iCloud does not protect you from user errors.