tamara m.

Q: IPad 2 Crashing after IOS 9.0.2 Update, Useless

My Ipad 2 will hardly run anything since these last few updates.  It's been running slower and slower over the past year, with every update.  And now it's to the point with IOS 9.0.2, it's almost completely useless.

 

I've tried all the fixes, reboot, hard reboot, updated on MAC Book Pro. 

 

I personally think for spending almost $1000 less than 4 years ago, I should be able to run simple programs on my Apple Ipad 2.

 

I've been a faithful customer for years, with everything MAC, and I feel like it's a push to make me by a new Ipad.

 

Can't you at least give us IPad 2 users updates we can at least use the simplest programs on our IPad2's?

 

Getting really annoyed.

Posted on Sep 30, 2015 11:37 AM

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  • by mkeschinger,

    mkeschinger mkeschinger Dec 29, 2015 7:13 AM in response to tamara m.
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    Dec 29, 2015 7:13 AM in response to tamara m.

    Looks like a page got deleted from this discussion. What happened?

  • by abouma,

    abouma abouma Dec 29, 2015 9:10 AM in response to mkeschinger
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    Dec 29, 2015 9:10 AM in response to mkeschinger

    There were 9 pages this morning when I looked to see how someone reset all his apps.

  • by mkeschinger,

    mkeschinger mkeschinger Dec 29, 2015 9:43 AM in response to abouma
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    Dec 29, 2015 9:43 AM in response to abouma

    Well, then the cool part is someone is monitoring the page and could possibly see the reasoning behind some of the failures.

    Always possible, right?

  • by andyr77,

    andyr77 andyr77 Dec 29, 2015 11:20 AM in response to tamara m.
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    Dec 29, 2015 11:20 AM in response to tamara m.

    Well folks welcome to my world!! I hear you LOUD AND CLEAR!.  IPAD 2 woes!! My story starts last year 2014 when i updated my ipad 2 with ios 8.  Wow what a mistake! It made my ipad sooo sloowww! So after update 8, 8.1 8.2 8.3 whew it got slower and slower! So **** ****** off I went to apple store made sure I had several hours to kill and hope they can speed up my Ipad.  Yea ok sure bud what was I thinking?  So long story short... They rebooted reinstalled ios 8 whatever and still slow as snail!!  They made up some lame excuse like, Hey well you have  an older device and new ios 8 just cant move as fast as previous ios and "oh by the way would you like to buy a new Ipad"? REALLY??? So those that spent $500 700 1000 on this a few years ago are like screwd? Oh boy there should be some very upset IPAD 2 owners right now!  So I left mad as ****!  Fast forward to 2015 Apple said ios 9 will be much faster cleaner on older devices like IPAD 2.  Really?  I waited till december 15 to install and see.  It could not be any slower?  Well folks guess what........... ITS SLOWER THAN IOS 8!!  Can you believe it?  I can.  Secret:  my original ipad 1 is faster!!!  Yes it is true.  ipad 2 on ios 7 blazing fast!  I wish I could return to ios 7!!  So will they fix this mess on IPAD 2? Don't hold your breath clearly this is well thought out so you get hooked on device and make you buy same device few years later at same price point. Brilliant!! Let me know if you agree and feel my pain here!!!  Sorry I don't have faith in broken promises from apple, no one seems to care.

  • by BuddyCthulhu,

    BuddyCthulhu BuddyCthulhu Jan 3, 2016 1:03 AM in response to andyr77
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    Jan 3, 2016 1:03 AM in response to andyr77

    Rinse & repeat.  With each successive iOS 9 update, my iPad 2 crashes to reboot more & more.  Like most of the previous posters, I have tried all the suggestions to fix the problem, with no change.  If Apple so desperately wants me to buy a new tablet, I'm sure I can find a decent Android one out there.

  • by BuddyCthulhu,

    BuddyCthulhu BuddyCthulhu Jan 3, 2016 1:19 AM in response to Meg St._Clair
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    Jan 3, 2016 1:19 AM in response to Meg St._Clair

    For me, this suggestion requires a 3-hour trip to the nearest city with an Apple Store, which can be done only on Saturdays As on weekdays the store would be closed by the time I arrived.  Are we wrong to expect that Apple should address this problem, which seems to be affecting a large number of older iPads?

  • by Johnandrewriley,

    Johnandrewriley Johnandrewriley Jan 4, 2016 1:13 PM in response to tamara m.
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    Jan 4, 2016 1:13 PM in response to tamara m.

    HI all

    we had this problem with my sons ipad2. I solved it with a full restore and set up as a new iPad

     

    hope it works for you

  • by mkeschinger,

    mkeschinger mkeschinger Jan 4, 2016 1:34 PM in response to Johnandrewriley
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    Jan 4, 2016 1:34 PM in response to Johnandrewriley

    I'd like to , if I may, ask how long has it been since that procedure? Also, if it hasn't been too long to give a 2-3 week update?

  • by Johnandrewriley,

    Johnandrewriley Johnandrewriley Jan 4, 2016 3:44 PM in response to mkeschinger
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    Jan 4, 2016 3:44 PM in response to mkeschinger

    Just a day... All good so far..... If I can remember I will update

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Jan 4, 2016 4:03 PM in response to mkeschinger
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    Jan 4, 2016 4:03 PM in response to mkeschinger

    I am, now, using my Wife"s iPad 2 and she is using my iPad 3.

    It has been over a month since I have used my own modified restore procedures outlined here and both iPads are still working very well.

    I still have to, occasionally, do a hard reset to clear up some weird issue that happens with any of my iDevices from time to time.

  • by mkeschinger,

    mkeschinger mkeschinger Jan 4, 2016 11:06 PM in response to Johnandrewriley
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    Jan 4, 2016 11:06 PM in response to Johnandrewriley

    Please do if you can. They are usually good for a bit then start crashing. Time wise I assume would depend on usage.

    Thanks.

  • by mkeschinger,

    mkeschinger mkeschinger Jan 4, 2016 11:08 PM in response to MichelPM
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    Jan 4, 2016 11:08 PM in response to MichelPM

    What issues , if i may?

    Is it normal to hard reset and ipad? I've always thought if you have to hard reset something often, or more than once, there is probably an issue.

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Jan 10, 2016 8:18 PM in response to mkeschinger
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    Jan 10, 2016 8:18 PM in response to mkeschinger

    Mobile computing devices are computers and JUST like most computers, every now and again, they act up, don't respond properly, OS glitches/bugs, third party software issues/glitches/bugs, etc. and need a reset, reboot, hard shutdown/forced restart.

    This is no different on any mobile electronic computing device.

    If anything, ALL mobile smart computing device, AND I MEAN ALL,  are not as robust, reliable and stable computing devices, yet, as the current state of laptop/desktop computing.

    Current mobile devices are STILL NOT robust and stable enough to trust storing data, long term, on these types of devices.

    Having to hard reset a mobile device is something that is going to happen from time to time and is perfectly normal/acceptable.

    Whether you accept this fact or not doesn't change the fact. This is something that is NOT going to change any time soon.

    AND, until the mobile computing technologies, especially on the tablet level, mature, these devices will be more susceptible and require more attention and precautions to preserve the data on tablet devices as well as functionality of these devices.

     

    I started my mobile computing life on handheld pocket PC devices which were even more glitchy and unreliable.

    Anyone remember the PSION Series 5 or 7 handheld "smart' pocket computer with the slide out keyboard?

    I had both of these (still do)!

    Those had touch screens that needed a stylus. They had cellular service, but no other wireless technologies and they backed up data to Conpact Flash Cards.

    The series 5 was a monochromatic basic LCD screen model. The Series 7 had a really nice, but still primitive by today"s stamdards, a full color LCD screen.

    These only used regular AA batteries plus a small circular lithium watch battery to preserve the computer RAM.

     

    My point being is that we have come a long way from that, in the last 16, or so, years, but these devices still lag behind a full blown computer with s much more robust and stable operating systems. Mobile computing platforms are still more finnicky and fragile in their operation.

    NO computing device is perfecr and nothing, NOTHING people create is EVER going to be perfect, no matter what the type of  product/price is!

  • by wbgPhil,

    wbgPhil wbgPhil Jan 11, 2016 7:31 AM in response to MichelPM
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    Jan 11, 2016 7:31 AM in response to MichelPM

    Another disgruntled IPAD2 owner whos unit is almost useless for any web use since updates to IOS 9. Some history...I was very happy with performance in 7 and 8 was ok, then the 9 upgrade and the constant crashing and network closure (if listening to Pandora, I would have to restart and log back in, if browsing the web while listending to same then the browser crashes and Pandora is shut off/paused and I get to restart both, etc.). I tried only using one app at a time. I tried only using an alternative browser (Firefox, Chrome, etc.). All produce the same unreliable result. I own an older iMac, so after updating the pad to IOS9 and having issues I figured I would do the full erase and reset but WAIT, Apple arranged it so I needed a version of iTunes on my iMac that I couldnt install as I couldnt lift it to the version of OSx to get it so no backup available for my iPad. I proceeded anyway, willing to lose the photos, misc music and app data I had if it fixed the problem. After the rebuild it seemed better.....for a week...then it started again. I have a third the apps I used to have, none of my older pics etc, and still have a crashing, unreliable iPad2. I work in the IT industry (and have for over 25 years). The issue is not users doing something wrong, its something about the older design architecture that is being hammered by the new IOS. That it doesnt affect everyone is an odd issue for such a thing but not unheard of in my experience. Perhaps, as I have read, it is related to the upgrade path taken but wouldnt a full rebuild solve that issue? At this point if I didnt dislike Microsoft more than Apple I would jump to a much more cost effective alternative tablet. I like the Apple pad culture but this recent Apple aproach to making my items extinct expecting me to buy their new gizmo is leaving a sour taste. I may try another full rebuild or if I take an hour plus drive to an Apple store one day, I may stand in line behind all the cool aid drinkers to get it looked at there.

     

    PR

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Jan 11, 2016 9:22 AM in response to wbgPhil
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    Jan 11, 2016 9:22 AM in response to wbgPhil

    Alrighty,

    I will try, once more, to offer my assistance and sage advice to you that has work, already for quite a few iPad 2/3 owners to date.

    FIrst, I need some info.

    What storage version model iPad 2 do you have and how much free space is left on it?

    When you surf the web, how many active tabs do you leave up an running?

    How many background apps do you leave up and running in the App Switcher?

     

    Next,

    What kind of Mac are you using, what year, screen size, what are you running for OS X version, how much RAM installed?

    This later info is so I can determine if your Mac CAN or CANNOT be upgraded to a newer OS X version that supports the newest update of iTunes.

     

    As a first step to help with your issues, I will state IMSO, that Safari on iOS is not great to begin with and has always had issues. That is why I stopped using it as my primary web browser of choice many years, ago. I am not that crazy about Safari on OS X. The iOS version seems worse for some web browsing tasks and on some website that I regularly visit.

    Second, FireFox for iOS (and Android for that matter) is a utter crawp web browser. Total garbage. Total disaster (unless this has changed recently).

    It bears NO resemblance, AT ALL, to FireFox on the main computer platforms. Mozilla group shouldn't even call that web browser Firefox! That is how bad I feel it really is!

    Same goes for ANYTHING Google related. Googlewares are resource hungry, RAM sucking coded disasters of software and should be avoided on any iOS device and on OS X.

    I use other third party web browsers that have been with iOS for a much longer period of time and have hd a LOT more developement time.

    I use a third party web browser called Perfect Web browser, it has a downlaoder bulit-in, looks and works like a normal computer web browser.

    I relegate Safari as a backup, alternate browser, if I need it.

    Other long term, third party web browsers are Atomic Web Brower, Dolphin Web browser, Mercury Web Browser, and one or two others that have been around almost since iOS and/or versions for when the iPad was first released in 2010.

    Not ALL third party web browsers work alike just because the use the same iOS developer tools.

     

    As much as I hate repeating myself and posting the same info, but it maybe quicker than hunting for this info inside of this posting.

    Here is a list of things you can try that I have compiled and continually update.

    I used some ot these early on when iOS 7 was introduced as this is when iOS was starting to slow older iDevices down.

    These have help my iPad 2 and 3 performance and is a intial set of suggested solutions to try (try them all together) before I list my own, MODIFIED backup/restore process (which will need the latest iTunes which will need an OS X upgrade to accomplish, if your Mac qualifies, I can post OS X upgrade procedures for you, as well).

     

     

    Try resetting All Settings found in the Settings App under General and in the right column under Reset.

     

    Try resetting histories and deleting/resetting caches in all of the web browsers you use.

    If you use Safari, these functions maybe in the Settings App under Safari.

    Other web browsers have their settings inside of the running app, itself.

     

    If your iPad has been activated for iCloud, in the Settings App under iCloud, to the right, under iCloud Drive, tap iCloud Drive and make sure Safari is turned off for saving Safari data to iCloud Drive.

    CHECK FOR THESE SETTINGS NO MATTER IF YOU ACTIVATED ICLOUD OR NOT! It may make some difference.

     

    Also, under iCloud in the Settings App, in iCloud Drive, disable the saving feature for any other apps that you DO NOT want data being saved automatically to iCloud Drive.

     

    If using Safari is still causing issues,

    Try changing/using another, different third party web browser.

    I don't use iOS Safari too much any longer because I found it causing me some headaches on certain websites I, regularly, visit.

    I commonly use another third party web browser, Perfect Web Browser (there are others that may suit your web browsing style better, so look at all of them first to see which third party browser may work better for you) and I never experience a lot of the issues that Safari was causing.

     

    In the Settings App under the General tab, to the right under Spotlight sesrch, try disabling the search under apps that really do not need a search, like some games, remotes, apps that really do not need to be searched, etc., to reduce the list for Spotlight to search.

     

    Try turning on Reduced Motion.

    This is found in the Settings App in the General tab the left panel.

    In the right panel look under Accessibility, the look for Reduce Motion and turn this feature "On".

    You should see an appreciable performance increase on all iPad 2, 3 and 4 models.

     

    In the Settings App under the General Tab, in the right column, look for Background App Refresh and turn this setting to "off".


    Some users have suggested that turning off Find My Phone/iPad has helped with performance issues, too.

    You turn this off in the Settings App Under iCloud.

    Try this one only as a last resort because it is better to have this on as a way to track your iPad in case of theft or you take your iPad somewhere and forget it.

     

    As a last step, Try another hard reset of your iPad by holding down both the Home and sleep/wake buttons simultaneously until your iPad goes to black and restarts with Apple logo, then release the buttons.


    Good Luck!

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