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Q: El Capitan running slowly?

Is anyone else having the issue of your Mac running wicked slow after the new El Capitan update? Word, Safari, Preview, and iTunes wouldn't open- they froze and I had to force quit them. Even typing this there is a major lag and the pinwheel appears. What's up with that? So far I hate how slow it's making my mac.

Posted on Sep 30, 2015 2:22 PM

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  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Oct 12, 2015 11:06 AM in response to ginafromhopewell junction
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    Oct 12, 2015 11:06 AM in response to ginafromhopewell junction

    There is no need for you to erase your Mac. Fix what's wrong with it.

     

    Start a new Discussion:

     

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  • by genxer66,

    genxer66 genxer66 Oct 12, 2015 2:00 PM in response to JPrattArt
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    Oct 12, 2015 2:00 PM in response to JPrattArt

    Okay i have similar issues but here's what i have happening.

    The Read/Writes go to zero for like 1-3 minutes and then they start up again.

    I have a macbook that has fought me the whole way but finally got it running right with the Pram

    But the Imac, which i flattened installed Yosemite then upgraded to el Capitan, is the one with the issue.

    you may be right that the mail is the issue but i'm not sre why that's tied to the read write stopage.

     

    Any input would be awesome.

  • by MGD BOB,

    MGD BOB MGD BOB Oct 12, 2015 2:12 PM in response to ginafromhopewell junction
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    Oct 12, 2015 2:12 PM in response to ginafromhopewell junction

    I hope you've reset the PRAM. That fixed everything for me on my iMac. On my MacBook Pro Retina, I just started the installation download and let it update itself overnight. Ran beautifully the next morning. Don't get impatient with the very slow progress bar, just let it be and go do something else. Hope this helps. Robert G Spinks Spinks Business Graphics 265 Grand Blvd Bedford OH 44146 216 650 0640 www.spinksbusinessgraphics.com

  • by ginafromhopewell junction,

    ginafromhopewell junction ginafromhopewell junction Oct 12, 2015 3:56 PM in response to MGD BOB
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    Oct 12, 2015 3:56 PM in response to MGD BOB

    Okay never had an issues with my iMac so Im not up on fixing things on it, so my silly question is- What is the PRAM?

  • by CraigerT,

    CraigerT CraigerT Oct 13, 2015 9:29 AM in response to mkgr
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    Oct 13, 2015 9:29 AM in response to mkgr

    Have been dealing with the spinning beach ball & slow running Mac mini (intel, 16gb memory) since I installed El Capitan last Friday (10/9).  I also upgraded my Mac Air at the same time, but it has not had any of these issues, go figure, and the two Macs are only about 8 months between purchase of each.

     

    Found this thread today & started going through the list to find what would fix the issue for the Mini...

     

    1. Tried reboot ... Nope

    2. Ran First Aid on disk ... Found no issues

    3. Reset the SMC ... noticed a very small improvement in speed, but beach balls still popping up

    4. Rebooted again ... No improvement

    5. Look at Mail logs ... I had killed mail when it showed up after the upgrade because I use Postbox. Log files were small, but deleted (moved to trash) them anyway

    6. Reboot again ... No improvement

    7. Played with Spotlight ... initially it took awhile to find anything, then it was finding searched items, but still slow

    8. Reboot again ... No improvement from step 7

    9. Test Microsoft Apps ... Launched Excel, got message about critical update for Office, ran it .... and viola, without rebooting, I now seem to be back to normal (pre-El Capitan) speed. Have opened a bunch of other apps to check performance, all good!  Just emptied the trash of the Mail logs and it was screaming-fast doing the removal, which it has never been on Yosemite. 

     

    Hmm, just opened one of my resource hogs ... Pixelmator and got the spinning beach ball, and it took about 25 secs to load.  Closed it and reopened it, & it was a near-instantaneous load.  Same happened with Affinity designer.

     

    Just tried Word & Excel, while all of the above are still open, instant-loads.

     

    Not sure if improvement came from MS Update or Spotlight running or combo of both, but problem is solved. 

  • by Tom Beardmore,

    Tom Beardmore Tom Beardmore Oct 13, 2015 9:45 AM in response to ginafromhopewell junction
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    Oct 13, 2015 9:45 AM in response to ginafromhopewell junction

    PRAM = Parameter RAM. The "PRAM" designation actually refers to Mac systems running versions of the Mac OS earlier than OS X. In OS X, it's referred-to as "NVRAM", but the concept is the same. It's simply a small amount of your computer’s memory that stores certain settings in a location that OS X can access quickly. The settings that are stored in NVRAM depend on the type of Mac you're using, and the types of devices connected to it. For example, if you have multiple bootable drives attached to your Mac, the "Startup Drive" value is saved there. It also stores things like speaker volume and screen resolution, among other parameters.

     

    Sometimes, it is necessary to reset the NVRAM to get things working normally. To do so, restart your Mac and wait for it to "chime". When it begins its chime, press down and hold the COMMAND - OPTION - P - R keys. Continue holding until your Mac reboots and chimes again.

     

    For further information, you can go to this KB article:

     

    How to Reset NVRAM on your Mac - Apple Support

  • by cmykman,

    cmykman cmykman Oct 13, 2015 10:09 AM in response to Kenylady
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    Oct 13, 2015 10:09 AM in response to Kenylady

    Please explain how pushing keys on your keyboard when your Mac is shut down does anything?

  • by Tom Beardmore,

    Tom Beardmore Tom Beardmore Oct 13, 2015 10:49 AM in response to cmykman
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    Oct 13, 2015 10:49 AM in response to cmykman

    Hi Cmykman -

     

    The keyboards on a Mac (or MacBook) are never entirely un-powered, unless the power-cord has been unplugged from a Mac, or the battery has been removed from a Macbook. Some years ago, Apple keyboards included a "power-on" button on the keyboard itself.

     

    FYI, this is a documented process called the SMC reset. Here's an Apple KB article that fully documents to procedure: Resetting the System Management Controller (SMC) on your Mac - Apple Support

  • by cmykman,

    cmykman cmykman Oct 13, 2015 11:05 AM in response to Tom Beardmore
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    Oct 13, 2015 11:05 AM in response to Tom Beardmore

    Thank you for the support link... very helpful information. 

  • by Captain Cirt,

    Captain Cirt Captain Cirt Oct 13, 2015 11:44 AM in response to mkgr
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    Oct 13, 2015 11:44 AM in response to mkgr

    Well, I forgot to mention in a previous post (which I can no longer see listed -erased?) that I am running two iMacs with El  Capitan. The older one, a 12 inch from 2007 has no problems, runs fine. But the newer one, a 27 inch late 2012 runs like a snail on Super Glue

  • by earthworm23,

    earthworm23 earthworm23 Oct 13, 2015 3:06 PM in response to mkgr
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    Oct 13, 2015 3:06 PM in response to mkgr

    Hello, I went to System Preferences --> Spotlight (unchecked Mail and Messages and Movies, and Bing Web Services).  Then, went to the Activity Monitor and double clicked on DropBox program that was running and Quit it.  This really sped things up to almost normal.  Not sure if it will work for anyone else, or I just clicked the lucky buttons.  Oh, and I ran the First Aid utility after (no problems found, but that was my order of operations).

  • by Saadi Rashed,

    Saadi Rashed Saadi Rashed Oct 14, 2015 11:12 PM in response to Eric Root
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    Oct 14, 2015 11:12 PM in response to Eric Root

    Hi, I tried the EntreCheck. Please see the result in below. Will wait for your advise. Thanks in advance.

     

    EtreCheck version: 2.5.5 (215)

    Report generated 10/15/15, 8:54 AM

    Runtime 5:37

    Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

     

    Click the [Click for support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Click for details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Hardware Information: (What does this mean?)

        MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012)

        [Click for Technical Specifications]

        [Click for User Guide]

        MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro9,2

        1 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2-core

        10 GB RAM Upgradeable

        [Click for upgrade instructions]

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                2 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM0

                8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported

        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

        Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 236 - SN = 9G44106JND3MB

     

    Video Information: (What does this mean?)

        Intel HD Graphics 4000

            Color LCD 1280 x 800

     

    System Software: (What does this mean?)

        OS X El Capitan 10.11 (15A284) - Time since boot: less than an hour

     

    Disk Information: (What does this mean?)

        HL-DT-ST DVDRW  GS41N   ()

     

        APPLE HDD HTS545050A7E362 disk0 : (500.11 GB) (Rotational)

            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

            Datas (disk0s4) /Volumes/Datas : 374.02 GB (201.23 GB free)

            MAC OS X (disk1) / : 124.72 GB (82.40 GB free)

                Core Storage: disk0s2 125.10 GB Online

     

    USB Information: (What does this mean?)

        Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

        Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

        Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

        Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

    Thunderbolt Information: (What does this mean?)

        Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

     

    Configuration files: (What does this mean?)

        System Integrity Protection status: enabled (Custom Configuration)

     

    Gatekeeper: (What does this mean?)

        Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Kernel Extensions: (What does this mean?)

            /Library/Application Support/Avast/components/fileshield/unsigned

        [loaded]    com.avast.AvastFileShield (2.1.0 - SDK 10.10) [Click for support]

     

            /Library/Application Support/Avast/components/proxy/unsigned

        [loaded]    com.avast.PacketForwarder (2.0 - SDK 10.10) [Click for support]

     

            /Library/Application Support/org.pqrs/NoEjectDelay

        [loaded]    org.pqrs.driver.NoEjectDelay (7.0.0 - SDK 10.11) [Click for support]

     

            /Library/Extensions

        [loaded]    com.globaldelight.driver.Boom2Device (1.1 - SDK 10.10) [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.paragon-software.filesystems.ntfs (382.0.14 - SDK 10.5) [Click for support]

     

            /Volumes/Datas/### Important Apps/TechTool Pro 8.app

        [not loaded]    com.micromat.driver.spdKernel (1 - SDK 10.10) [Click for support]

        [not loaded]    com.micromat.driver.spdKernel-10-8 (1 - SDK 10.10) [Click for support]

     

            /Volumes/Datas/Installed Apps/Viscosity.app

        [not loaded]    com.viscosityvpn.Viscosity.tap (1.0) [Click for support]

        [not loaded]    com.viscosityvpn.Viscosity.tun (1.0) [Click for support]

     

    System Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)

        [loaded]    com.apple.RemoteDesktop.plist - Invalid signature!

        [loaded]    com.apple.screensharing.MessagesAgent.plist - Invalid signature!

        [loaded]    com.apple.screensharing.agent.plist - Invalid signature!

     

    System Launch Daemons: (What does this mean?)

        [loaded]    com.apple.FileSyncAgent.sshd.plist - No signature!

        [loaded]    com.apple.airplaydiagnostics.server.mac.plist - /AppleInternal/Applications/AirPlayDiagnostics.app/Contents/Resources/AirPlayDi agnosticsServer: Executable not found!

        [loaded]    com.apple.configureLocalKDC.plist - No signature!

        [loaded]    com.apple.efax.plist - No signature!

        [loaded]    com.apple.emlog.plist - No signature!

        [loaded]    com.apple.gkreport.plist - No signature!

        [loaded]    com.apple.locate.plist - No signature!

        [failed]    com.apple.logd.plist [Click for details]

        [loaded]    org.apache.httpd.plist - No signature!

        [loaded]    org.cups.cupsd.plist - Invalid signature!

        [loaded]    org.net-snmp.snmpd.plist - No signature!

        [running]    org.ntp.ntpd.plist - No signature!

        [loaded]    org.postfix.newaliases.plist - No signature!

        [loaded]    ssh.plist - No signature!

     

    Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)

        [running]    com.avast.update-agent.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.avast.userinit.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist [Click for support]

        [running]    com.paragon-software.NTFS.fsnotifyagent.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.paragon.updater.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist [Click for support]

     

    Launch Daemons: (What does this mean?)

        [loaded]    com.avast.init.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.avast.uninstall.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.avast.update.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.creativebe.MainMenuHelper.plist [Click for support]

        [running]    com.iobit.AMCDaemon.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensingV2.helper.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.paragon.NTFS.launch.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    net.sourceforge.MonolingualHelper.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    org.pqrs.NoEjectDelay.load.plist [Click for support]

     

    User Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)

        [loaded]    com.avast.home.userinit.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist [Click for support]

        [running]    com.iobit.MacBoosterMini.plist [Click for support]

     

    User Login Items: (What does this mean?)

        CheatSheet    Application  (/Applications/CheatSheet.app)

        Android File Transfer Agent    Application  (~/Library/Application Support/Google/Android File Transfer/Android File Transfer Agent.app)

        Skype    Application  (/Applications/Skype.app)

        Viber    Application Hidden (/Applications/Viber.app)

        iPulse    Application  (/Applications/iPulse.app)

     

    Other Apps: (What does this mean?)

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x10000004.MainMenu Pro

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x10000007.Chatty

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x10000009.iPulse

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x1000000a.Skype

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x1000000b.Viber

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x1000000d.CheatSheet

        [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x1000000f.FolxAgent

        [loaded]    com.avast.account

        [loaded]    com.avast.crashreport

        [running]    com.avast.daemon

        [running]    com.avast.fileshield

        [running]    com.avast.helper

        [running]    com.avast.proxy

        [running]    com.avast.service

        [running]    com.eltima.Folx3.30112

        [loaded]    com.eltima.FolxAgent.137312

        [running]    com.etresoft.EtreCheck.137632

        [running]    com.google.android.mtpagent.68832

        [loaded]    com.iconfactory.mac.iPulse.5472

        [loaded]    com.skype.skype.24992

        [loaded]    com.viber.osx.19552

     

    Internet Plug-ins: (What does this mean?)

        MeetingJoinPlugin: Version: Unknown - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

        SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.4.3 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

        QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

        JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 8 Update 45 Check version

        Default Browser: Version: 601 - SDK 10.11

     

    User internet Plug-ins: (What does this mean?)

        Folx3Plugin: Version: 4.0 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes: (What does this mean?)

        Java  [Click for support]

        Paragon NTFS for Mac ® OS X  [Click for support]

     

    Time Machine: (What does this mean?)

        Time Machine not configured!

     

    Top Processes by CPU: (What does this mean?)

             7%    mds_stores

             3%    Chatty

             3%    mdworker(23)

             2%    com.avast.proxy

             1%    WindowServer

     

    Top Processes by Memory: (What does this mean?)

        891 MB    kernel_task

        471 MB    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent(6)

        379 MB    Chatty

        328 MB    mdworker(23)

        246 MB    mds_stores

     

    Virtual Memory Information: (What does this mean?)

        2.51 GB    Free RAM

        7.49 GB    Used RAM (5.47 GB Cached)

        0 B    Swap Used

     

    Diagnostics Information: (What does this mean?)

        Oct 15, 2015, 08:20:45 AM    Self test - passed

  • by CraigerT,

    CraigerT CraigerT Oct 16, 2015 9:22 AM in response to CraigerT
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    Oct 16, 2015 9:22 AM in response to CraigerT

    Update...

     

    Thought things were back to normal, but that was short-lived.

     

    FRKN SLOWWWWWW! Again!!  Ready to chuck the Mini out the window!

     

    Have rebooted in Safe Mode and it is the same there, so it has nothing to do with any programs on the computer. 

  • by Philip Stearns,

    Philip Stearns Philip Stearns Oct 16, 2015 10:22 AM in response to CraigerT
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    Oct 16, 2015 10:22 AM in response to CraigerT

    Be sure to check on the health of your internal drive and test performance with all attached external drives disconnected. Disconnect them, reboot and try again. (By the way, an impaired Time Machine backup drive will cause ALL memory to become dedicated to the attempt to back up the machine. El Capitan or not, you will be treated to perpetual beach balls and astoundingly slow performance, even in the Finder).

     

    So many possibilities...

     

    I am coming around to the opinion that anyone upgrading to El Capitan should probably run all of the suggested performances fixes and drive integrity tests BEFORE they even bother to  upgrade.

  • by LauraC1129,

    LauraC1129 LauraC1129 Oct 16, 2015 12:02 PM in response to Kenylady
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    Oct 16, 2015 12:02 PM in response to Kenylady

    THANKS! THis definitely did it for me! I'm new with my MacBook Pro and I was so disappointed when i was slow but that helped 1,0000 times!

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