Aperture OnScreen Profiling incorrect on El Capitan 10.11

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Rick Lang wrote:

After updating to the first release of OS X 10.11 El Capitan, the OnScreen Profiling feature in Aperture 3.6 shows a Viewer image that is too light and low contrast. The images in the Browser (thumbnails) look normal, but selecting any image results in a washed-out image in the Viewer. If I turn off OnScreen Profiling, the image in the Viewer appears normal again. It’s not a problem with the profile selected, as I tried all kinds of profiles with the same result. Usually I set the profile to the printer paper I’m using, but I get the same result if I set it to anything.

I’m not sure if I should regenerate images. Certainly don’t want to ruin everything in the Library! Thought I’d see if anyone else knows how to get back to OnScreen Profiling with good results. If so, how did you do it? Thanks.

I'm no expert on this but have you checked to see if there are any further updates for the camera data?

I got the same problem, the screen is too bright

Same here.

I do not know whether the two observations are related but I also noticed that I had to raise the screen brightness of my iMac 5K much more than under Yosemite to get an acceptable overall brightness. My setting used to be at about 50% under Yo, now I am at close to 100% with El Cap.

Lots of people having this problem. Please give feedback to Apple.

IS the problem limited to Aperture, or does it seem to be a more universal problem with ColorSync?

How could one tell. Is there anything left that still uses ColorSync?

This supports your situation:

http://thedigitalstory.com/2015/09/turn-off-onscreen-proofing.html

Probably the best image processing/management app ever developed and they can't get it past one iteraration of the OS without breaking it.

I thiught I could get a couple of years out of it.

I, too, am experiencing this problem along with several others.

El Capitan has cause me a lot of pain! Reminds me of the old Windows 95 days.

Apple has become, "The Man".

Apple has become, "The Man".

Remember that great Apple TV commercial called, "1984" ?

Who is Who ?

I don't know if I would go that far, but Apple's focus has definitely changed. Where, in the past, Steve Jobs liked to target software to the creative people he admired; those with standards every bit as high as his own, the new Apple focuses on consumers and aims for a lowest common denominator. When Aperture was first created they brought in some well-admired photo professionals so they could better understand workflow, archiving, and image creation. They do the same thing now, but the folks they bring in have different needs — photos as disposable moments to be shared and forgotten.

Welcome to the new world order.

Forrest Jerome1 wrote:

How could one tell. Is there anything left that still uses ColorSync?

Yes, the ColorSync Utility (of course) still uses ColorSync. I just did some tests on my iMac, and definitely see lightening of images when I apply different profiles to images in CS Utility, so this is very likely a deeper problem that Apple will fix.

Well for me was to turn of on screen proofing... Not sure what the implication is of this but if you open up aperture and click view and the untick onscreen proofing you will get both to match.

Hopefully that works for everyone else?

Livegame wrote:

Well for me was to turn of on screen proofing...

Livegame,

I didn’t completely understand your post. It sounded like you solved the screen-proofing issue simply by turning the proofing “off and on” (your “turn of on screen proofing” statement)? This certainly hasn’t worked for me (and others).

Possibly you meant that you ”turned off” screen proofing and then you saw a more “normal” image. This is what I (and others) observe. This is just a “work-around,” not really a solution. Perhaps you could clarify if you actually solved the issue.

I find it interesting that others (i.e. Leonie) have reported that they are unaffected by this issue on their hardware. I have seen it on my mid-2010 MacBook Pro (17”) and my mid-2012 MacBook Air (11”). Both have both been upgraded to OS X 10.11. I have not yet upgraded my Early 2009 Mac Pro where my main Aperture library resides. I’m waiting to make sure there will be no disaster with Aperture (seems unlikely so far - I can live without onscreen proofing).

Anyone besides Leonie NOT experiencing this problem? Of course, they probably have no reason to be looking at this forum!

Dave