corvairkid

Q: Window Size Problem with El Capitan

Since upgrading to El Capitan, Microsoft Outlook will not remember it's window size after I close and reopen, or quit and restart the program.

This problem did not occur with any previous operating systems.

 

Please help....

iMac, OS X El Capitan (10.11)

Posted on Oct 3, 2015 2:47 AM

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  • by CharlesAnnexus,

    CharlesAnnexus CharlesAnnexus Dec 30, 2015 7:55 AM in response to corvairkid
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    Dec 30, 2015 7:55 AM in response to corvairkid

    I also have been getting finder window resize (windows are too small) issues since upgrading recently to El Capitan.

  • by CicciManolesta,

    CicciManolesta CicciManolesta Jan 4, 2016 12:12 AM in response to corvairkid
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    Jan 4, 2016 12:12 AM in response to corvairkid

    Same Problem.

    Outlook resize windows while I scroll messages list.

  • by aero1247e,

    aero1247e aero1247e Jan 4, 2016 1:11 AM in response to aero1247e
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    Jan 4, 2016 1:11 AM in response to aero1247e

    Obviously I cheered to soon. Problems are back after a day or two. So again having the resize problem. Perceived even more often than before. Guess I am just annoyed

  • by DavesNotHereMan1,

    DavesNotHereMan1 DavesNotHereMan1 Jan 5, 2016 1:19 PM in response to corvairkid
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    Jan 5, 2016 1:19 PM in response to corvairkid

    I think I have found a potential "solution" to the resizing window issue. I had the exact same issue as the OP which lead me to this thread. Here is what I did to resolve the problem and I think this will work with all apps.

     

    1. Open Outlook (or whatever app)
    2. Resize the window to what you would like it to be as the default
    3. CMD-Q to quit Outlook (or whatever app)
    4. Re-open Outlook, and it should come up as the resized window size.

     

    I hope this helps you guys out. It bugged me since I moved to El Capitan. I'm sure this is just a "feature". As Steve says, "it just works"

  • by corvairkid,

    corvairkid corvairkid Jan 5, 2016 2:03 PM in response to DavesNotHereMan1
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    Jan 5, 2016 2:03 PM in response to DavesNotHereMan1

    I have tried your "solution" many times.

    You are correct! Yes, when re-sizing, quitting, and re-opening, the Outlook window remains correct.

    But, that is not the problem. I don't want to quit Outlook every time I want to remove the window from view.

    The problem is when you close the Outlook window without quitting. Most of the time when re-opening the window from a closed state, the previous window size is lost.

    The only work-around that I've found to be successful is to minimize/hide the Outlook window, instead of closing it.

    When opening from a minimized state the window size is preserved every time.

  • by DavesNotHereMan1,

    DavesNotHereMan1 DavesNotHereMan1 Jan 5, 2016 2:13 PM in response to corvairkid
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    Jan 5, 2016 2:13 PM in response to corvairkid

    Perhaps I didn't do sufficient testing, but when I did the "solution" I described to set the default window size, hitting the ❌ circle for the outlook window, then opening up outlook again gives me the newly set window size. I'll keep playing with it, but in my limited testing, the outlook window hasn't reverted to the small window.

  • by corvairkid,

    corvairkid corvairkid Jan 5, 2016 3:44 PM in response to DavesNotHereMan1
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    Jan 5, 2016 3:44 PM in response to DavesNotHereMan1

    Well...I don't know what to say.

    Now I can't seem to make Outlook have a window size problem!

    I've been testing it out every few days for months and the problem would always return.

    Could it be a miracle??

    Will keep you informed.

  • by corvairkid,

    corvairkid corvairkid Jan 5, 2016 4:42 PM in response to corvairkid
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    Jan 5, 2016 4:42 PM in response to corvairkid

    Well, that didn't last very long. I spoke too soon again.

    The old problem has returned.

    Back to using minimize/hide...yellow ( - ) button.

  • by alun severn,

    alun severn alun severn Jan 6, 2016 1:29 AM in response to corvairkid
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    Jan 6, 2016 1:29 AM in response to corvairkid

    Corvairkid:  Exactly right. Quit and reopen *always* works, Outlook's window opening in just he way you have previously set it. But closing the window (CMD-W) and then reopening (I used to cycle through open programmes using CMD-Tab and then hitting  CMD-1 to reopen Outlook --  it was the work of a second or two and utterly instinctive) -- DOESN'T work. The ONLY option currently is to minimise the window to the dock.

     

    It's such a tiny -- but supremely annoying -- thing...

  • by DavesNotHereMan1,

    DavesNotHereMan1 DavesNotHereMan1 Jan 6, 2016 9:58 AM in response to corvairkid
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    Jan 6, 2016 9:58 AM in response to corvairkid

    I'm not sure why your windows are not behaving. I've been futzing with yesterday and today, and my outlook window stays the size that I set when I CMD-Q (quit) outlook. I can open and close outlook over and over again and it stays the size that I set it. I haven't had it revert back to its tiny window.

     

    Sorry that it didn't work for you, but it worked for me. I haven't tried sleeping the computer or shutting down the computer, perhaps that it behaves differently when the computer sleeps?

  • by alun severn,

    alun severn alun severn Jan 6, 2016 10:05 AM in response to DavesNotHereMan1
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    Jan 6, 2016 10:05 AM in response to DavesNotHereMan1

    The point is, davesnothere, that Outlook's windows *do* behave properly if you quit and relaunch. What they don't do is behave if you simply CMD-W close the window and then reopen. Hence all these folks complaining that go avoid quitting and relaunching they now have to keep Outlook minimised to the dock and zoom it open from there... Sorry, but this problem is almost harder to explain than it is to experience. If you just close the window and then reopen it, see how many times you can do that before the window shrinks to a size that is useless...

  • by DavesNotHereMan1,

    DavesNotHereMan1 DavesNotHereMan1 Jan 6, 2016 10:15 AM in response to alun severn
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    Jan 6, 2016 10:15 AM in response to alun severn

    I have been hitting CMD-W to close and reopen my outlook window quite a bit and my window stays the same "corrected" size. I know what you guys are saying. I've been hitting the red x and CMD-W to close my outlook window. I would say that in the past hour, I've done it roughly 100 times, and it has never reverted back to the tiny window for me.

     

    I'm not saying that you guys aren't experiencing the tiny window issue. I'm just saying that the solution I proposed worked for me. I'll just call it lucky.

     

    It was annoying the heck out of me too thats why I found this thread to begin with. I was just trying to help out. If it doesn't work well for you, sorry about that. Good luck guys. Hope you guys find a solution that works for you.

  • by alun severn,

    alun severn alun severn Jan 6, 2016 10:54 AM in response to DavesNotHereMan1
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    Jan 6, 2016 10:54 AM in response to DavesNotHereMan1

    davesnothere -- My God, I think you may be right! I just reread what you said and perhaps I originally misunderstood, in which case apologies. It seems that if you close the window using the RED button you *can* then do exactly what I was trying to describe above: you can either reopen from the icon in the dock or cycle through open programmes until you have Outlook and then use the CMD-1 keyboard shortcut...and the window reopens at the size it should be!

     

    At least, that is what it is doing for me right now.

     

    It is undeniable that there is a bug but perhaps the bug or the conflict or the whatever is actually with the CMD-W (close window) function and as long as you avoid using this you can avoid the mystery shrinking window problem?

  • by Movieman40,

    Movieman40 Movieman40 Jan 6, 2016 11:36 AM in response to corvairkid
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    Jan 6, 2016 11:36 AM in response to corvairkid

    to fix that try restarting your mac then holding down alt+command+r+p that might fix it

  • by aero1247e,

    aero1247e aero1247e Jan 6, 2016 11:45 AM in response to Movieman40
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    Jan 6, 2016 11:45 AM in response to Movieman40

    Thanks for that but deleting PR-RAM was one of the first things I tried without success.

     

    BUT: Can anyone please confirm this behavior I just discovered. It seems that the window size alternates with every fresh opening.

     

    • CMD+W to close. Click on dock icon -> small.
    • CMD+W again. Click on dock icon -> correct (larger) size again.

     

    Tried this like 30 times and it continues to alternate correct, small, correct, small. Really strange. I can confirm that when closing the windows with the red x button it will always open in the correct size again.

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