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Jan 6, 2016 11:54 AM in response to aero1247eby DavesNotHereMan1,That's not my experience. My experience is that CMD-W, open in doc has been opening to the corrected size. I have now tried it well over 200x just because others were having issues. It's beginning to look like not everyone's set up is exhibiting the same behavior. For me, regardless of whether I'm hitting the red x in the window or CMD-W to close outlook, opening it back up in the dock opens to the corrected size.
I went so far as to make the window small, CMD-Q to set the window size, re-opening it to ensure that it comes up as the small size, made it large, CMD-Q to set the window size, opening it again to ensure that it was the large size followed by 50x of CMD-W and red x to close outlook. Each time, the window opens to the large size.
If it helps, I'm running a mid 2015 MBP 15" running El Capitan 10.11.2 and Outlook 15.17.1.
I had this version of outlook running on a 2011 MBP 15" running Yosemite and never had this issue. It's only when I went to the new laptop that this issue started popping up.
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Jan 6, 2016 12:03 PM in response to DavesNotHereMan1by DavesNotHereMan1,Of course as soon as i said that, I had an instance where the CMD-W, open in dock produce a small outlook window. I hit CMD-W again, open in dock, and it went back to the large window.
I guess we just wait for Apple to fix the issue?
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Jan 6, 2016 12:06 PM in response to DavesNotHereMan1by aero1247e,The question is: Is it an OS issue or app issue. For me it is only Outlook, no other app.
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Jan 6, 2016 12:17 PM in response to corvairkidby Movieman40,try checking for an update for outlook
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Jan 6, 2016 12:57 PM in response to DavesNotHereMan1by corvairkid,I agree Dave.
The issue is not with Outlook. Outlook has updated at least 2 or 3 times since this problem started.
I am running Outlook for Mac: 2011 version 14.5.9. That is the latest Outlook update.
The problem started with the introduction of OS X El Capitan. I am running version 10.11.2 (the latest version).
Before El Capitan, Outlook never had this problem.
It's a simple cause and effect in my opinion.
Apple needs to fix this...if they care.
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Jan 6, 2016 1:06 PM in response to corvairkidby corvairkid,Also...some of you have mentioned that you are having a problem with the calendar opening up in a smaller than normal size.
I am having that issue as well. It only happens when I open the calendar for the first time after starting the computer.
The size stays normal in all other situations...so far.
Has anyone started a separate thread on this issue?
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Jan 7, 2016 1:01 AM in response to corvairkidby alun severn,Dave: I think you're right -- the glitch doesn't exhibit the same effects for all users. There'd seem to be some other variables...
Corvairkid: I'm running Outlook 14.5.9 and this window size problem only began with El Cap., never before. I don't know whether it affects the calendar window in a similar way because I never use the calendar facility.
I have not experienced the problem with any other application windows at all.
For the moment I'm sticking with red button close and cycle through + CMD-1 to reopen at the right size because that's what I have always done and it's fast and intuitive.
It would be nice to think that at some point this problem will simply quietly disappear...
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Jan 7, 2016 1:36 AM in response to alun severnby alun severn,Hmm, Back to the drawing board: red button close + CMD-1 to reopen just failed, producing the small window problem... Back to minimise and then unmrinimise from dock, I think...
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Jan 7, 2016 3:53 AM in response to alun severnby corvairkid,Yes.
Minimize/Hide to the Dock (yellow button) and then un-minimize seems to be the only viable work-around.
I'm sticking with that until Apple fixes it....could be a long wait.
Also...anyone having problems with their Apple Calendars opening up short after first launch, there's a thread on it.
Perhaps if more people join, it will get some attention:
Why does the height of the Mac Calendar window reset with each launch?
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Jan 8, 2016 1:49 AM in response to corvairkidby corvairkid,Found another thread on the Calendar issue, for what it's worth:
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Jan 8, 2016 8:15 AM in response to corvairkidby alun severn,The El Cap 10.11.2 update which I just installed today *may* have fixed the Outlook window problem.... Say it carefully and quietly.... I'm using it now and have tried every conceivable way of closing/reopening Outlook and so far it has opened at the previously (correct) window size every time....
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Jan 8, 2016 8:22 AM in response to alun severnby corvairkid,I updated to OS X 10.11.2 back on December 9th.
It did not fix the problem on my computers.
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Jan 8, 2016 9:16 AM in response to corvairkidby alun severn,That's bad news, corvairkid. At the moment, I am hopeful: Outlook is behaving *perfectly*. Maybe tomorrow or the day after will bring a different story - who knows?
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Jan 8, 2016 11:02 AM in response to corvairkidby CharlesAnnexus,I have found that it works better after the recent El Cap update. There was also a Microsoft update, but don't think it was Outlook specific. I randomly get it opening small but not nearly as often as before. Now if someone could just fix all of the PowerPoint 2016 problems, I can save the rest of my hair.
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Jan 11, 2016 3:23 AM in response to CharlesAnnexusby alun severn,Yes, I spoke too soon. As corvairkid says and Charles confirms, OSX 10.11.2 offer san improvement in the behaviour of Outlook, but it isn't a full fix. I've already had one window reopening problem this morning...