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Q: iCloud Restore for iPhone 6s - Missing Messages/Recent Calls Missing

Day one my wife and I got our new iPhone 6s (with iOS 9.0).  We did an iCloud restore from our iPhone 5s with iOS 9.0.1 and it was successful bringing all our data including Messages and Recent Calls.  The phones were then updated to iOS 9.0.1.  Everything was working fine...

 

My phone had an issue which ended up getting me a replacement iPhone 6s (iOS 9.0).  From here I tried restoring from the past iPhone 6s (with iOS 9.0.1) iCloud restore.  Unfortunately, Messages and Recent Calls did not come over from the past iPhone 6s backup and I even tried various of the iPhone 6s time stamped backups.  I also updated the new iPhone 6s to 9.0.2 and still no difference with the restore.  It wasn't until I reverted back to my iPhone 5s backup (iOS 9.0.1) that it would bring the Messages and Recent Calls over.  Note that the inclusion of the Messages and Recent Calls is evident immediately after the initial restart from restore (when the phone starts downloading apps).  This has me worried going forth and here is why!

 

I've done a new backup and a little digging.  I've noticed that both my new backup for the iPhone 6s and wife's are both smaller than our iPhone 5s backup was.  Example for my device backups: iPhone 5s: 18 GB, iPhone 6s: 17.1 GB.  Note that this seems backwards as if there was any difference for whatever reason, I would imagine that it be on the larger resolution device.  Also, this difference in size would seem reasonable for not including Messages (includes messages, videos, audio, etc.) and Recent Calls.  There may even be other data that this did not bring over as I did not see it benefit in losing years of messages for a week of new data, i.e. I did not research the loss to the full extent.

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue recently with an iPhone 6s or maybe there is a known issue I just have not stumbled across.

iPhone 6s, iOS 9.0.2

Posted on Oct 3, 2015 5:37 AM

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  • by mcfarm1,

    mcfarm1 mcfarm1 Dec 3, 2015 7:07 AM in response to r-m
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    Dec 3, 2015 7:07 AM in response to r-m

    Apparently I have read in other threads that your can select your messages etc from iTunes backup directly and then transfer them onto the phone - one of the geeks told me this in the apple store last week. Not entirely sure how it is done though - google should be able to provide a little insight,

     

    Unsure about health data as I don't use it on my iphone.

     

    Apple must be sorting a proper fix where data can be merged I would hope

  • by ad1357,

    ad1357 ad1357 Dec 3, 2015 8:06 AM in response to mcfarm1
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    Dec 3, 2015 8:06 AM in response to mcfarm1

    I was able to do a proper restore from my Nov 24th backup. Lost over a week of health data/imessages but I am happy to have 5+ years of imessages back.

     

    Health data also returned FYI. I am not terribly worried about a week's worth of data being lost.

  • by Letapa,

    Letapa Letapa Dec 3, 2015 8:23 AM in response to ad1357
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    Dec 3, 2015 8:23 AM in response to ad1357

    How? Please provides steps...Thank you!!!!!

  • by ad1357,

    ad1357 ad1357 Dec 3, 2015 8:28 AM in response to Letapa
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    Dec 3, 2015 8:28 AM in response to Letapa

    Read above. As long as you didnt overwrite your iCloud backup after losing all your messages you can restore it properly now. You wont get any of the data you recorded between restores but 5+ years of data is better than losing only a week.

     

    The white screen/black apple logo freeze is also gone.  Apple appears to have fixed the 'server issue.'  Thank you to everyone who bugged Apple (r-m you in particular) for helping to fix this.

  • by JacksterD,

    JacksterD JacksterD Dec 3, 2015 8:38 AM in response to ad1357
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    Dec 3, 2015 8:38 AM in response to ad1357

    Hi all

     

    Restoring my backup now - I've got past the point where it would previously freeze on a white screen with no problems yet. Looking promising!

  • by JacksterD,

    JacksterD JacksterD Dec 3, 2015 8:56 AM in response to JacksterD
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    Dec 3, 2015 8:56 AM in response to JacksterD

    My iPhone has just successfully restored, with all the missing data gone!

     

    Of course, all the data between the 17th of November and today is gone, with no apparent way to merge the data. Oh well.

  • by r-m,

    r-m r-m Dec 3, 2015 9:04 AM in response to JacksterD
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    Dec 3, 2015 9:04 AM in response to JacksterD

    JacksterD wrote:

     

    My iPhone has just successfully restored, with all the missing data gone!

     

     

    Sorry, just want to check - all the missing data is still missing, or it's back now?

  • by JacksterD,

    JacksterD JacksterD Dec 3, 2015 9:25 AM in response to r-m
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    Dec 3, 2015 9:25 AM in response to r-m

    Sorry! In my excitement I said the exact opposite of what I meant to say.

     

    Editing the post to fix it, hah.

     

    EDIT: It appears I can't edit the post. Just to clarify, I meant to say that all the missing data has been restored after restoring my iCloud backup. Of course, this means users affected by this bug will have to restore one of their old backups to get their old data back, and they'll lose message data and health data from between now and the date of the backup you restore.

  • by r-m,

    r-m r-m Dec 3, 2015 9:28 AM in response to JacksterD
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    Dec 3, 2015 9:28 AM in response to JacksterD

    Fantastic. I'm glad it's fixed for people :-) About an hour left of work until I can go home an try mine!

     

    I have asked the Executive support guy to forward an email on to the engineering team for me, asking about current state of the bad restore.

    My iPhone has the broken restore from 14th November, which I've been using since then. I've asked them if I back this up to iCloud, then restore it back to my iPhone, will it be okay? I've asked if there's a way of keeping both the data up to 14th, and the data between then and now.

     

    If it's a case of backing up to iCloud and them going in and fixing something, that'd be awesome... I'll try myself tonight anyway, and will let people know how I get on.

  • by Tawkers,

    Tawkers Tawkers Dec 3, 2015 9:28 AM in response to pardthemonster
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    Dec 3, 2015 9:28 AM in response to pardthemonster

    IIt's good that they fixed it but for the original people who experienced this issue in October, it's not much of a use to us now. Since all this does is allow us to choose betwen am empty phone and in tact restore  from 30 days ago. We had this exact option when the problem started. We had the ability to restore from the back up of our 6 on September 25th when we got our 6S.

     

    FOr for people who just experienced the issue its awesome. For myself unfortunately it's now been too long that if have to again lose a month of new data.

     

    so I'm sticking to my decision I made last month. Backed up the texts from the September backup, using iExplore. And starting with fresh phone.

     

    B.

  • by r-m,

    r-m r-m Dec 3, 2015 9:29 AM in response to Tawkers
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    Dec 3, 2015 9:29 AM in response to Tawkers

    That's kinda what I wanted to know from them. If people have stuck with the restore that had bad data, were to now back up to iCloud, will it be fixed and will there be all data there.

     

    If there's not, they could do with providing a tool to merge the two sets, or at least do it themselves.

  • by duck1098,

    duck1098 duck1098 Dec 3, 2015 9:38 AM in response to Tawkers
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    Dec 3, 2015 9:38 AM in response to Tawkers

    With this iExplorer, can you insert data too or just extract? I assume you cant insert. But is there an app on jailbreak that could so we can merge the text messages?

    I've been using my phone from back up I did on iTunes in mid October. I'm missing my text messages from mid october to mid november when it was backed up to icloud.

  • by Gareth321,

    Gareth321 Gareth321 Dec 3, 2015 1:45 PM in response to duck1098
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    Dec 3, 2015 1:45 PM in response to duck1098

    I ended up restoring a two month old iTunes backup. ****** off I've lost my photos and messages and app changes from the last two months, but happy I got all my messages back.

     

    I'm sticking with iTunes backup from now on. It has never failed me. I'm kind of sour about iCloud after this.

  • by r-m,

    r-m r-m Dec 3, 2015 2:39 PM in response to Gareth321
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    Dec 3, 2015 2:39 PM in response to Gareth321

    Don't forget to let apple support know how annoyed you are at the situation, otherwise they'll just think people were happy with the fix and leave it at that.

  • by jmco173,

    jmco173 jmco173 Dec 3, 2015 3:13 PM in response to r-m
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    Dec 3, 2015 3:13 PM in response to r-m

    Well it is still not working for me.    Just wiped my phone and restored from a backup created this morning.  Still no messages ect.

    Maybe the fix is only for some or maybe they are fixing it gradually.    Sticking to iTunes.   Very frustrating.

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