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No Mouse Hover Functions in El Capitan

Hi,


Having upgraded to El Capitan (Version 10.11 (15A284)) a few days ago, I've since noticed that none of the mouse over or hover functions work. This applies to things like the Safari, where hovering over a link will not highlight it, or a YouTube video where the scrub bars do not appear when moving the cursor over the video element. It also applies to other bowsers like Firefox.


It also seems to apply to the OS interface itself. Instead of simply clicking on the top menu (File, Edit, etc...) and moving the cursor over each item to highlight it, I need to hold down the mouse button and release in order to select something.


Now, what I'm not sure of is if this is by design, or if it's a genuine bug.


  • If it's the former, is there an option to revert the mouse behaviours back to the more traditional 'click, hover, click' like there was is previous OS X releases?
  • If it's the latter, then how would I go about reporting the bug?


I realise this is a fairly minor issue, but it's kinda frustrating.


Any advice would be appreciated.



Cheers,


Niall

iMac (24-inch Mid 2007), OS X El Capitan (10.11)

Posted on Oct 3, 2015 3:21 PM

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User profile for user: Community User
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Oct 20, 2015 10:21 AM in response to Barney-15E

Hi,


The mouse I have is a MAD CATZ R.A.T. 3. Having checked the product's website, it seems like the latest mac drivers they have are for OS X 10.9. So I might have to wait until they provide El Capitan drivers. But I was curious if this is a common problem amongst 3rd party mice when it came to Macs, and if there was a fix that could be applied.


Still, I'm open to any suggestions as I'm (reasonably) comfortable in going into the OS folders and terminal.

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User profile for user: StrictlySpeaking
StrictlySpeaking
User level: Level 1
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Oct 21, 2015 4:27 AM in response to Community User

As NMAc1983 brought up, this annoying issue is totally due to the Mad Catz mouse. I have a RAT 7 Contagion which I use for gaming and for when my fingers get tired on the Magic Trackpad. In general, I rarely use the mouse apart for gaming.


I was at a loss when (following the El Capitan upgrade) these menu pointer and dock unhiding issues surfaced. And because it happened only intermittently I just could not figure out what the root cause was, so thank you NMac1983!


You can test the whole issue quite easily if you have a second pointing device:


Start with mouse disconnected - no problem with menu's and dock.

Connect mouse without moving it: still no problem (when using another pointing device).

Move the Mad Catz mouse once and the problem starts.

Disconnect the mouse, you'll be back to normal.


Hope this helps.

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User profile for user: Blacktiger24465
Blacktiger24465
User level: Level 1
9 points

Oct 30, 2015 5:00 AM in response to Community User

I have the same issues since updating to El Capitan. As StrictlySpeaking my mouse is also a RAT 7, but this problem didn't exist before the update. I used USB Overdrive to programm the mouse buttons, cause the Madcatz drivers doesn't work as well. However, i tried a clean install of 10.11 with a bootstick to look if the problem still would exist. No success. Then i tried a clean install of 10.10, cause the problem wasn't existing there. But again no success. Now i went back to 10.11 and testes my 20$ Logitech mouse, and everything was working as well. So a 150$ mouse isn't working but a 20$ mouse is?


I will try a solution turnoround this evening but I'm not confident.

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User profile for user: Blacktiger24465
Blacktiger24465
User level: Level 1
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Oct 30, 2015 12:38 PM in response to Blacktiger24465

Update: I've loaded the Madcatz Software (for 10.9) against from here http://madcatz.com/downloads/ and now its working. No USB Overdrive or something like that installed, just the Madcatz software.

These are the steps you have to do:

  1. Uninstall all other mouse drivers - USB-Overdrive, SteerMouse, Logitech, Razer, etc.
  2. Restart.
  3. Install the MadCatz driver/editor software.
  4. Restart.
  5. Add the Mad Catz Editor to the Accessibility permissions list. System Prefs -> Security & Privacy -> Privacy -> Accessibility. Click the lock to authenticate then drag the Mad Catz Editor into the list to give it permissions.
  6. Create/edit profiles and commands. Be sure to save the profile(s).
  7. Use the menubar item to assign a profile to the mouse.

If it's not working, add that to your startup items:

/Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/MadCatzSmartTechnology.app


Try it out!

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Oct 30, 2015 12:50 PM in response to Blacktiger24465

Hi there,


This helped a bit. I had already installed the 10.9 drivers from the Mad Catz site. Initially, things worked, after the restart at the end of the driver installation process, I had hover functions back. But the following day when I booted back up again, the problem returned.


The weird thing is that now the issue appears to be an intermittent one, rather than constant. Some times when I boot up it works fine, others, it doesn't. Furthermore, adjusting the Accessibility settings like you described, didn't seem to make much of an impact. And finally, the Activity Monitor shows that the Mad Catz software boots up on startup and my mouse profile is loaded.


It hasn't completely solved the issue but it's a step in the right direction. So cheers! 🙂


I guess it's looking like I'll have to wait for 10.10 drivers from Mad Catz in order for the problem to be tackled properly. I'll try dropping them an email to see if they plan to release El Capitan drivers and when.

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User profile for user: Digitpool
Digitpool
User level: Level 1
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Feb 17, 2016 5:37 AM in response to Blacktiger24465

Thanks,

I use the RAT 3 for working with my Adobe CC (it's much more comfortable than other mice I tried 😉) and were shocked when this problem come up.


I tried re-installing some drivers, but it doesn't worked. So after I've read your manual I re-installed the drivers for 10.9, made a reboot and tadaaaa all my hover issues are working like always.


Thanks so far 🙂

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