Whickwithy
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Q: Are all of these failures of El Capitan normal for a new OS X?

I'm kinda new to Macs/Apple, so this is the first time I've encountered a new operating system installation.  That's a lot of problems.  Gotta say, it kinda scares me.  My installation went completely smooth, except for the first start-up but it wasn't that bad and I figure it's just familiarity with the "Apple way".  I don't fiddle with unusual apps much (which seems to be causing a lot of headaches) and would probably concentrate on Apple-supported apps, anyways, for the sake of safety.  As my machine gets older (I think my last windows machine was 15-20 years old when I converted), I'll probably be more careful to check requirements on a new installation and make darn sure I can revert back to the previous version, if it breaks.

Mac mini, OS X El Capitan (10.11)

Posted on Oct 4, 2015 11:42 AM

by MikeB1967,Solvedanswer
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No, they're not. In fact, this is the first time in almost 15 years that I've seen that many critical issues in a new OS release. Every new version has its bugs, but this time lots of previous Beta testing was supposed to have solved most of them. However, apple screwed up big time this time. I expect them to come up with an urgent fix in a few days.

Posted on Oct 4, 2015 11:56 AM

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  • by Whickwithy,

    Whickwithy Whickwithy Oct 13, 2015 6:34 AM in response to R C-R
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    Oct 13, 2015 6:34 AM in response to R C-R

    Benwiggy has given us the answer.  Just go to your system preferences, then to displays, then hold the ALT key down (i.e. Option key) and click on "scaled".  This really does not change the resolution!  I'm pretty sure of that, as I went all the way down to 800 x 600 just to make sure and the pictures were still crisp and clear.  You should get a ton of resolution choices by holding ALT down while clicking the "scaled" button.  What a complete relief this is!

  • by Whickwithy,

    Whickwithy Whickwithy Oct 13, 2015 6:41 AM in response to benwiggy
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    Oct 13, 2015 6:41 AM in response to benwiggy

    As nice as it sounds, I'm still not sure what they are doing with alt-scaled.  It has changed the desktop pictures in that they are clipped now along the edges.  But, I'm going to quit complaining as it seems to offend some.  Thanks for the help, though.  It's certainly nice to know about alt-scaled.

  • by Whickwithy,

    Whickwithy Whickwithy Oct 13, 2015 6:48 AM in response to Whickwithy
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    Oct 13, 2015 6:48 AM in response to Whickwithy

    Nope.  It's changing the resolution, even with the alt-scaled.  My TV reports the resolution that is being used for each device.  When I change to 800 x 450, the TV tells me it is displaying 640x480.  Too bad.  Still nice to know about alt-scaled but no thanks.

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R Oct 13, 2015 7:57 AM in response to Whickwithy
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    Oct 13, 2015 7:57 AM in response to Whickwithy

    Whickwithy wrote:

     

    Benwiggy has given us the answer.  Just go to your system preferences, then to displays, then hold the ALT key down (i.e. Option key) and click on "scaled".  This really does not change the resolution!  I'm pretty sure of that, as I went all the way down to 800 x 600 just to make sure and the pictures were still crisp and clear.  You should get a ton of resolution choices by holding ALT down while clicking the "scaled" button.  What a complete relief this is!

    FWIW, on my non-retina 27" iMac, I get the same scaled display choices with or without using the alt key. And none of the scaled ones are as sharp as the "native" one because they use anti-aliasing (interpolation) to fit the image to the display's pixels.

  • by Whickwithy,

    Whickwithy Whickwithy Oct 13, 2015 8:19 AM in response to R C-R
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    Oct 13, 2015 8:19 AM in response to R C-R

    You are right, of course, RC-R.  I was just hoping too much for a solution.  Since any serious complaints on this board seem to be taken unkindly, though, I'm going to quit complaining.  Apple is perfect and everything is wonderful.

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Oct 13, 2015 8:24 AM in response to Whickwithy
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    Oct 13, 2015 8:24 AM in response to Whickwithy

    Here is another way to explain it:

     

    The highest (and default) resolution on my 27" imac is 2560x1440. That means there are 2560 pixels contained in an approx. 23" width; and 1440 pixels in the 13" height.

     

    If I choose the next lower - 2048x1152, there will only be 2048 pixels or about 500 less which makes each one proportionally larger. The same applies to the width.

     

    If you've ever tried to enlarge a photo, you will notice that it does not work too well as it gets a bit blurry. The same thing will happen on the screen: you enlarge the individual pixels, it gets less sharp/blurry.

     

    So, you need to make a choice as to what is most important to you - can you deal with a bit of "less crisp" in order to see without problems or are you a photography professional who needs the highest resolution?

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R Oct 13, 2015 8:46 AM in response to Whickwithy
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    Oct 13, 2015 8:46 AM in response to Whickwithy

    Whickwithy wrote:

    Apple is perfect and everything is wonderful.

    I don't believe Apple is even close to perfect. But I think they have made reasonable choices for the GUI, considering the technical limitations & practical tradeoffs involved. No matter what they do, bigger text means less of it can be displayed across the screen, whatever its size or resolution.

  • by adpetruzela,

    adpetruzela adpetruzela Oct 14, 2015 5:11 AM in response to VikingOSX
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    Oct 14, 2015 5:11 AM in response to VikingOSX

    Usted está equivocado. Uso Mac desde 1994 y ésta es la versión de lanzamiento más pobre que he conocido.

    Los problemas de gestión con el Finder no tienen nada que ver con “programas obsoletos”, sino con la configuración del sistema.

    Además, provoca la utilización de recursos al tope del procesador para Pages, FileMaker y Finder, aún cuando no se está corriendo ningun documento.

    Espero que Apple corrija pronto estos inconvenientes, no es fácil volver atrás con la instalación.

  • by Whickwithy,

    Whickwithy Whickwithy Oct 14, 2015 5:57 AM in response to benwiggy
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    Oct 14, 2015 5:57 AM in response to benwiggy

    Okay!  I finally figured it out.  I'm not sure what the settings are on a Retina display but, with a non-Retina, it shows a number of settings when you click Option key-"Scaled".  If you choose the ones that say "low resolution" next to the horizontal x vertical numbers, this actually changes the resolution.  If you choose the ones that do say low resolution, then you are changing only the text size.  Brilliant, once again.

     

    I'll still give you the honors of posting a post on this subject, if you like.  If I don't hear from you soon, then I will post one myself.  I know how important this is to a lot of people.  It will be like the difference between night and day for me in the experience.

     

    Thanks, benwiggy!

     

    I must note, though, one thing that is rather unfortunate, at least with my Sharp display.  The next lowest setting that does not actually take away pixels is 1920 x 1080.  That's a bit too small but I can probably deal with it better than zooming all of the time to read text.

  • by William Kucharski,

    William Kucharski William Kucharski Oct 14, 2015 5:59 AM in response to Barney-15E
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    Oct 14, 2015 5:59 AM in response to Barney-15E

    Not an Apple employee, three Macs flawlessly running El Capitan and running apps such as Fission, Graphic, Photoshop CS 6, Photoshop Elements 14 and XLD.

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