nicwilson58

Q: External monitor OS bug - Black Screen with cursor

There seems to be a nasty bug in the new El Capitan OSx with external monitors on my iMac 5k retina. 

 

External monitor connected causes both monitors to show black screen with cursor at the point where the login would normally appear.

 

1.  OS X Yosemite works fine and does not have this issue.

2.  Upgrade to OS X El Capitan has this issue.  Disconnect ext monitor boot again and its fine.

3.  Clean install El Capitan on iMac from wiped partition and issue shows if ext monitor connected.

4.  Restore Yosemite from time machine or install clean and issue does not happen.

5. Try several different monitors and same issue.  Each connected by an original apple Thunderbolt to HDMI cable.

6. Each of these monitors work perfectly if booted under Yosemite on same machine.

7.If they are connected after login they then work fine,  but if logged out,  the issue shows again.

8. If monitor is disconnected before logout,  then the issue does not show and the normal login shows.


No matter what i do,  upgrade or clean install this is happening every time on El Capitan.


Hopefully someone at Apple will see this and acknowlege the issue or supply a workaround other than connecting and disconnecting the monitor.


NW



iMac with Retina 5K display, OS X El Capitan (10.11), Core i7, 32GB, 1TB SSD

Posted on Oct 4, 2015 4:44 PM

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  • by GayleG,

    GayleG GayleG Oct 12, 2015 12:18 AM in response to nicwilson58
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    Oct 12, 2015 12:18 AM in response to nicwilson58

    I have this same issue on my Mac Book Pro Retina 15" (Late 2012). No problems with Yosemite--problem started since El Capitan installed. I tried every trick in the book to get this to work (I use 2 external monitors.. Thunderbolt to HDMI and HDMI).. Tech support seems to have never heard of this and is dumbfounded. Any ideas are welcome.

    Thanks!

  • by sandspiel,

    sandspiel sandspiel Oct 17, 2015 2:57 AM in response to GayleG
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    Oct 17, 2015 2:57 AM in response to GayleG

    I have the same problem. Both monitors (Retina Mac + external LG) are black at logon. The only thing I see is the mouse pointer.

     

    I try to click at the area where my logon-icon usually was and enter my PWD, and then I can logon and my desktop appears on both screens. Until the next reboot

     

    But that's not the solution at all...

  • by mayanTx,

    mayanTx mayanTx Oct 28, 2015 12:46 PM in response to nicwilson58
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    Oct 28, 2015 12:46 PM in response to nicwilson58

    I just experienced the exact same issue. I called Apple Support and the issue was fixed by plugging my computer to the charger.  I was shocked to hear that as well.  Apparently, in order for this feature to work you have to have the following 3 things:

     

    1) An external mouse/keyboard connected to the Macbook

    2) An adapter connected to the external monitor that is configured for "Mirror" arrangement

    3) Macbook must be plugged in to the charger

     

    I had the top 2 items and the symptoms were identical.   As soon as I would try to use the external monitor alone, I would get a black screen with just a mouse pointer and nothing else.  Once I plugged the laptop into the charger, everything worked fine.  My Macbook is closed right now and I'm connected to my external monitor and everything seems to be working. I'm using El Capitan as well.  Hope this helps.

  • by dani.petrov,

    dani.petrov dani.petrov Oct 28, 2015 3:48 PM in response to mayanTx
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    Oct 28, 2015 3:48 PM in response to mayanTx

    Hi guys,

     

    I seem to have exactly the same issue. I am on Mac Pro (late 2013) and just recently updated to El Capitan. I can confirm that I have never had something like that happening on Yosemite, but here - I can no longer have a proper boot. Every time when I restart the computer - I get to this black screen. So all I can do is just trying to login blindly. The combination that works sometimes is hitting the first letter of my username, then hit enter and then put the password. At some point that works eventually and I am able to continue normally using the computer. It doesn't happen when I wake it from sleep, but only after restart. I have a secondary monitor connected via HDMI (well it's a Cintiq HD tablet actually, but still as far as OS is aware - its yet another monitor). I haven't trying reaching out to Apple support yet, but I also found other topics of other people complaining of similar issue.

     

    I did apply the recent update, but that didn't work either...

  • by KannonDiCarpo,

    KannonDiCarpo KannonDiCarpo Jan 6, 2016 8:21 AM in response to dani.petrov
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    Jan 6, 2016 8:21 AM in response to dani.petrov

    Same issue here. Brand new iMac 5k out of the box. At one point, it was booting up to black screen (with curser) regardless of what was plugged in, so I figured out Apple's Safe Mode (hold shift while booting).

  • by drchowman,

    drchowman drchowman Jan 13, 2016 6:47 AM in response to nicwilson58
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    Jan 13, 2016 6:47 AM in response to nicwilson58

    Same problem here.

     

    Late 2015 27" 5K iMac El Capitan 10.11.1

  • by Luis Sequeira1,

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 Jan 13, 2016 7:09 AM in response to drchowman
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    Jan 13, 2016 7:09 AM in response to drchowman

    Did you try booting in Safe Mode?

    Hold down Shift immediately after pressing power and release after you see the grey Apple logo. Then try rebooting normally and see if the problem went away.

  • by Hoppy UK,

    Hoppy UK Hoppy UK Jan 23, 2016 2:06 AM in response to nicwilson58
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    Jan 23, 2016 2:06 AM in response to nicwilson58

    Hi Nic - Paul from UK, exactly the problem you describe - very annoying!! I have the following:

     

    iMac late 2015 5k

    23" Apple Display (connector mini display to DVI) connected to one of the thunderbolt ports

     

    On boot with external connected black screen pus cursor

     

    If I boot with the external not connected and then connect the display all seems to be fine ... but this is a pain.

     

    Paul

  • by Zak Adelman,

    Zak Adelman Zak Adelman Feb 6, 2016 12:19 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1
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    Feb 6, 2016 12:19 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    It only works once, it comes back after the next reboot.  Are you even trying before you respond or are you just guessing for points?

  • by circlegate,

    circlegate circlegate Mar 1, 2016 11:06 AM in response to nicwilson58
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    Mar 1, 2016 11:06 AM in response to nicwilson58

    I have the same problem. I upgraded my Macbook Pro 15 Early 2011 to Macbook Pro 15 Retina Late 2013. Both El Capitan with Dell U2713HM connected using display port. The old Macbook worked fine, but know I can see only black screen with cursor. If I disconnect the monitor and restart, it is fine. Any workaround?

  • by KannonDiCarpo,

    KannonDiCarpo KannonDiCarpo Mar 1, 2016 11:23 AM in response to circlegate
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    Mar 1, 2016 11:23 AM in response to circlegate

    Unfortunately, the only workaround is what you're already doing: unplug the 2nd monitor before El Capitan boots.

     

    One thing I want to try to clarify. I'm using a Thunderbolt to Mini DVI adapter to connect my 2nd monitor. Is that the case with everyone else? Maybe we can isolate this issue a little more for our good buddy Apple.

  • by circlegate,

    circlegate circlegate Mar 1, 2016 11:39 AM in response to KannonDiCarpo
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    Mar 1, 2016 11:39 AM in response to KannonDiCarpo

    My monitor is connected using DisplayPort to Mini Display Port (thunderbolt) adapter.

  • by Jeffrey Soto,

    Jeffrey Soto Jeffrey Soto Apr 5, 2016 12:26 AM in response to circlegate
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    Apr 5, 2016 12:26 AM in response to circlegate

    I have exactly the same issue. Brand new iMac 5K, connected to a 30" Apple Cinema Display with the Mini Display Port to Dual Link DVI (thunderbolt) adapter.

     

    On start up iMac screen shows black screen with white Apple logo and quick loading bar then both screens stay black, however the mouse cursor is there and I can move it across both screens. Only solution was to unplug the Cinema Display and restart, then plug it back in after the iMac was running. What a pain... 

     

    I did find a work around! I got the idea from Sandspiel above (talking about trying to find the field for his login password), so I disabled the password on startup and tried restarting with the Cinema Display plugged in. It worked, as soon as the computer started up both screens came on simultaneously! 

     

    Turning off login password-

    http://www.howtogeek.com/202411/how-to-login-to-os-x-yosemite-automatically-with out-a-password/

     

    This is a workaround and not ideal for a laptop that could fall into the wrong hands. My iMac is a bit safer in my home, but it is still a huge problem and I am hoping someone figures it out...

  • by franciscofrombaltimore,

    franciscofrombaltimore franciscofrombaltimore May 27, 2016 2:39 AM in response to nicwilson58
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    May 27, 2016 2:39 AM in response to nicwilson58

    Same problem

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