So MS released StaffPad for the Surface. As a musician, I am way interested in this app, but nowhere near enough to purchase a Surface to get it. Is there some reason Apple can't create a similar product for music notation recognition?
Jan 3 2017 here.
A couple of days ago I bought notion for ios (ipad pro + pencil) and I think it's quite good. I don't know how it compares with staffpad today, but for simple things notion is just fine. By the way it needs a lot of improvements in order to become a strong and proficient handwriting tool for a professional composer.
The good news is that notion's developers seems to work hard for that and they release updates quite often with bug fix and news. In Notion's forum community you can also write what in your opinion should be fixed or improved and developers seems to care...
I think that this is the future of composing, and in 2-3 years we will have good software for iOS as well
Jan 3 2017 here.
A couple of days ago I bought notion for ios (ipad pro + pencil) and I think it's quite good. I don't know how it compares with staffpad today, but for simple things notion is just fine. By the way it needs a lot of improvements in order to become a strong and proficient handwriting tool for a professional composer.
The good news is that notion's developers seems to work hard for that and they release updates quite often with bug fix and news. In Notion's forum community you can also write what in your opinion should be fixed or improved and developers seems to care...
I think that this is the future of composing, and in 2-3 years we will have good software for iOS as well
Already did that. They replied that for now, the best hardware was the MS Surface Pro, but I guess they're bound by some business agreement to NOT try to develop it for iOS. It's a shame because like many of my fellow musicians I'm eager to use it but would NEVER buy a Surface. The minute it's available on iPad I'll buy it.
Notion was mention with NEEDS IMPROVEMENT when this thread began, in 2015.
Now it is 2017 and apparently it still NEEDS IMPROVEMENT.
Meanwhile search for users of StaffPad and I think the jury is out:
If you are a serious musician, forget about Mac iOS - you need to go to surface.
Just my obvious conclusions from several searches and FAQs - I do not own a surface or other Microsoft device except an old Windows 7 PC, which I love and makes my life so much easier for most tasks compared with lates Mac OS and iOS devices, many of which I and my family own.
The answer is very short: it's impossible to create so good and quasi professional app like StaffPad on IOS, even only for iPad Pro. Two reasons:
1. StaffPad needs not mobile OS like iOS or Android,
2. Apple not going to create a MacBook Pro with Pen&touch screen (like Wacom or MS surface series). I am an user Apple from 15 years, so I know what I'm saying.
I tested for Microsoft StaffPad on Surface Pro 4 - it's fantastic application and I am ready to pay for Surface Pro or other similar PC (HP x360 etc.) only for using StaffPad.
Notion for IOS or other apps for iOS are a toy and ridiculous tool for composer. StaffPad has really not bad sound library (excluding strings section).
More "diplomatic" answer you can find in FAQ section by David Hearn (main composer and creator of StaffPad).
Has anyone looked at this?
Score Creator: compose music by TRAN PHUONG
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/score-creator-compose-music/id627486149?mt=8
Notion is ok but definitely needs some upgrades, wonder if the apple pencil will help change things.
StaffPad was not developed by MS. It is a third-party app. It is simply only designed to work on touch-based, stylus-driven Windows 8.1+ devices.
Now, what prevents someone from developing a similar app for iPad? Good question! Will the high$ Apple pen/pencil thingy help? Maybe.
Has anyone tried Notion since PreSonus added Apple Pencil support?
HI there!
I am musician too. What can I say you is that it's too painful to create music on iPad. I remember how I wrote track on my iPhone 5's small screen. It was really awfull experience. Because GarageBand uses some kind of strange compression and limiting to the whole sound.
Also you can try Figure by Propellerhead, great free app with only 3 channels but a great functionality.
Also there is FL studio mobile, but I don't advice it to you because it's too sluggish and complex for music making.
also there is an app called "Groove machine mobile" from Imageline.
David Checketts wrote:
So MS released StaffPad for the Surface. As a musician, I am way interested in this app, but nowhere near enough to purchase a Surface to get it. Is there some reason Apple can't create a similar product for music notation recognition?
Contact the Staffpad developers and ask them about possibly releasing an iPad Pro & Apple Pencil version - http://www.staffpad.net/#about
I've had Neuratron's Notate Me installed for some time now and have always considered it an abject waste of time; no matter how much I "trained" it, note entry using a finger or conventional stylus was correctly interpreted maybe 10% of the time. Very frustrating. This week I finally got my hands on an Apple Pencil for my iPad Pro and it's definitely living up to its superb reputation. As my first test I entered four bars into Notate Me with 100% accuracy. I'll add further comments when I've had a bit more time to work with it, but at this point I'm very optimistic. Odds are good I'll also install Notion, which is also supposed to support the Apple Pencil, for sake of comparison. Stay tuned...
Yes, Feb 27, 2016: it's horrible. I don't even know where to begin. There is no delete key or gesture. The eraser tool is not a tool, it's a button that you use after using a select-with-handles tool.
The programmers don't understand the difference between a tool, a button, an icon or a menu and put them all next to each other in a palette.
Want to draw a marquis around a set of notes? Nope. Go into chord mode and want to add notes to a chord, nope. Half the time it will create new notes even if you are directly above or below the existing chord. Want to click and drag a note left or right? Nope only right or left.
The program gets confused a lot and you have to change tools, switch modes and then try again.
Absolutely horrible disaster.
I bought the notion app for scoring, but the apple pen support also very disappointed to me. really doesn't as powerful as staff pad apk.
When you are writing, you hand can't laid on the screen. the staff pad adv seems like writing so comfortable on surface.
When do we get a StaffPad-like app for iPad?
