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Q: Does Mountain Lion run on latest iMacs?

I'm currently running OS X 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) on my 2010 vintage iMac, and I am thinking of getting one of the new machines.  Does anyone know if ML will run on the latest iMacs ?

 

I don't like the look of Yosemite (the dock especially), and Apple's decision to remove opening folders into their own window with a double-click is unforgivable.  (I assume that El Capitan will be similarly crippled).

Posted on Oct 17, 2015 4:53 AM

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  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Oct 17, 2015 4:56 AM in response to CNS
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    Oct 17, 2015 4:56 AM in response to CNS

    No. It won't run on a new Mac being sold today.

  • by CNS,

    CNS CNS Oct 17, 2015 5:09 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Oct 17, 2015 5:09 AM in response to KiltedTim

    Pity.

    In that case I won't be buying one.

  • by Joe Gramm,

    Joe Gramm Joe Gramm Oct 17, 2015 5:26 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Oct 17, 2015 5:26 AM in response to KiltedTim

    KiltedTim,

     

    Couldn't Mountain Lion be run on a new iMac booted from an external HD.

    I know that's not what CNS is asking, but couldn't it be done that way.

  • by CNS,

    CNS CNS Oct 17, 2015 5:35 AM in response to Joe Gramm
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    Oct 17, 2015 5:35 AM in response to Joe Gramm

    I can make a Mountain Lion installer USB stick, and then do a 'Restore from Backup' from the Time Machine backup of my existing iMac, but will it even run ?

  • by Ralph9430,

    Ralph9430 Ralph9430 Oct 17, 2015 5:46 AM in response to CNS
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    Oct 17, 2015 5:46 AM in response to CNS

    NO. The Mac's sold today will run the version of OS X that is installed on them and they can be updated to newer versions when they become available. There may still be some macs in stores that have Yosemite installed. Those can be updated to El Capitan. Any macs newer than those will have El Capitan installed. these macs will not run older versions of the OS X .

  • by CNS,

    CNS CNS Oct 17, 2015 5:51 AM in response to Ralph9430
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    Oct 17, 2015 5:51 AM in response to Ralph9430

    I would not actually be 'updating' as such, but rather completely erasing the existing Yosemite/El Capitan installation, then installing from my ML backup.

  • by Joe Gramm,

    Joe Gramm Joe Gramm Oct 17, 2015 5:53 AM in response to Ralph9430
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    Oct 17, 2015 5:53 AM in response to Ralph9430

    Not even an older OS on an external source, like an external drive. 

  • by CNS,

    CNS CNS Oct 17, 2015 6:12 AM in response to CNS
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    Oct 17, 2015 6:12 AM in response to CNS

    Just found this:

    http://osxdaily.com/2014/10/22/downgrade-os-x-yosemite-to-mavericks/

     

    It suggests that it may be possible, although whether it would still work from El Capitan is unknown.

  • by woodmeister50,

    woodmeister50 woodmeister50 Oct 17, 2015 6:46 AM in response to CNS
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    Oct 17, 2015 6:46 AM in response to CNS

    That only works if the machine has previously been shipped with Mavericks or older.

    A new Mac purchased today cannot run anything older than El Capitan or if it was

    on the shelf a while still had Yosemite installed. PERIOD!!!!  End of story!!!

  • by Joe Gramm,

    Joe Gramm Joe Gramm Oct 17, 2015 7:54 AM in response to woodmeister50
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    Oct 17, 2015 7:54 AM in response to woodmeister50

    I know I'm being redundant asking the same over again, but does this include running an older OS X off of an external drive. Or does this only apply to the internal Mac HD.

  • by den.thed,

    den.thed den.thed Oct 17, 2015 8:09 AM in response to CNS
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    Oct 17, 2015 8:09 AM in response to CNS

    CNS wrote:

     

    I'm currently running OS X 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) on my 2010 vintage iMac, and I am thinking of getting one of the new machines.  Does anyone know if ML will run on the latest iMacs ?

     

    No, see > Use the version of OS X that came with your Mac, or a compatible newer version - Apple Support

     

     

    I don't like the look of Yosemite (the dock especially), and Apple's decision to remove opening folders into their own window with a double-click is unforgivable.  (I assume that El Capitan will be similarly crippled).

     

    Not sure what you mean...?

     

    I personally prefer the Snow Leopard look and functionality.

     

    Plain Dock

    No Notifications

    No Mission Control

    No hidden windows or panels

    Folders open how and where I want

    No Spaces or sliding panel mumbo jumbo

    Just Plain old OS X without all the interferance


    FWIW: I have run them all (Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, Yosemite and El Capitan) and with very little effort, all can easily be tamed down to look and do whatever you like.


  • by CNS,

    CNS CNS Oct 17, 2015 9:18 AM in response to den.thed
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    Oct 17, 2015 9:18 AM in response to den.thed

    I don't like the look of Yosemite (the dock especially), and Apple's decision to remove opening folders into their own window with a double-click is unforgivable.  (I assume that El Capitan will be similarly crippled).

     

    Not sure what you mean...?

     

    I personally prefer the Snow Leopard look and functionality.


    FWIW: I have run them all (Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, Yosemite and El Capitan) and with very little effort, all can easily be tamed down to look and do whatever you like.


     

    Yes indeed, and I am running the Snow Leopard theme from Rhubarb Leaf to give me the glassy traffic light buttons and blue scrollbars in my ML installation.

     

    As I understand it, in Yosemite you can no longer open a folder in its own window any more just by double-clicking.  You have to right click to get the contextual menu.  It's a stupid decision, given that this feature has been present in all previous versions of the Mac OS (pre X too) and indeed, in all versions of Windows.  The flat 2 dimensional dock looks dreadful too.

     

    Are you saying there is a hack to get around this ?

  • by den.thed,

    den.thed den.thed Oct 17, 2015 10:13 AM in response to CNS
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    Oct 17, 2015 10:13 AM in response to CNS

    CNS wrote:


    Are you saying there is a hack to get around this ?

     

    NO' I do not and will not use any UI hacks.


    The ways I see it:

    If you really want a new Mac, then you learn to live with change.

    If not, then you keep running the old outdated Mac and OS X.

  • by CNS,

    CNS CNS Oct 18, 2015 5:09 AM in response to den.thed
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    Oct 18, 2015 5:09 AM in response to den.thed

    Which means that in fact they CANNOT "easily be tamed down to look and do whatever you like"

     

    I am absolutely sure that the idiotic change to the folder opening behaviour would never have been approved by Steve Jobs.

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