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Oct 17, 2015 4:56 AM in response to CNSby KiltedTim,No. It won't run on a new Mac being sold today.
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Oct 17, 2015 5:26 AM in response to KiltedTimby Joe Gramm,KiltedTim,
Couldn't Mountain Lion be run on a new iMac booted from an external HD.
I know that's not what CNS is asking, but couldn't it be done that way.
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Oct 17, 2015 5:35 AM in response to Joe Grammby CNS,I can make a Mountain Lion installer USB stick, and then do a 'Restore from Backup' from the Time Machine backup of my existing iMac, but will it even run ?
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Oct 17, 2015 5:46 AM in response to CNSby Ralph9430,NO. The Mac's sold today will run the version of OS X that is installed on them and they can be updated to newer versions when they become available. There may still be some macs in stores that have Yosemite installed. Those can be updated to El Capitan. Any macs newer than those will have El Capitan installed. these macs will not run older versions of the OS X .
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Oct 17, 2015 5:51 AM in response to Ralph9430by CNS,I would not actually be 'updating' as such, but rather completely erasing the existing Yosemite/El Capitan installation, then installing from my ML backup.
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Oct 17, 2015 5:53 AM in response to Ralph9430by Joe Gramm,Not even an older OS on an external source, like an external drive.
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Oct 17, 2015 6:12 AM in response to CNSby CNS,Just found this:
http://osxdaily.com/2014/10/22/downgrade-os-x-yosemite-to-mavericks/
It suggests that it may be possible, although whether it would still work from El Capitan is unknown.
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Oct 17, 2015 6:46 AM in response to CNSby woodmeister50,That only works if the machine has previously been shipped with Mavericks or older.
A new Mac purchased today cannot run anything older than El Capitan or if it was
on the shelf a while still had Yosemite installed. PERIOD!!!! End of story!!!
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Oct 17, 2015 7:54 AM in response to woodmeister50by Joe Gramm,I know I'm being redundant asking the same over again, but does this include running an older OS X off of an external drive. Or does this only apply to the internal Mac HD.
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Oct 17, 2015 8:09 AM in response to CNSby den.thed,CNS wrote:
I'm currently running OS X 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) on my 2010 vintage iMac, and I am thinking of getting one of the new machines. Does anyone know if ML will run on the latest iMacs ?
No, see > Use the version of OS X that came with your Mac, or a compatible newer version - Apple Support
I don't like the look of Yosemite (the dock especially), and Apple's decision to remove opening folders into their own window with a double-click is unforgivable. (I assume that El Capitan will be similarly crippled).
Not sure what you mean...?
I personally prefer the Snow Leopard look and functionality.
Plain Dock
No Notifications
No Mission Control
No hidden windows or panels
Folders open how and where I want
No Spaces or sliding panel mumbo jumbo
Just Plain old OS X without all the interferance
FWIW: I have run them all (Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, Yosemite and El Capitan) and with very little effort, all can easily be tamed down to look and do whatever you like.
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Oct 17, 2015 9:18 AM in response to den.thedby CNS,
I don't like the look of Yosemite (the dock especially), and Apple's decision to remove opening folders into their own window with a double-click is unforgivable. (I assume that El Capitan will be similarly crippled).
Not sure what you mean...?
I personally prefer the Snow Leopard look and functionality.
FWIW: I have run them all (Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, Yosemite and El Capitan) and with very little effort, all can easily be tamed down to look and do whatever you like.
Yes indeed, and I am running the Snow Leopard theme from Rhubarb Leaf to give me the glassy traffic light buttons and blue scrollbars in my ML installation.
As I understand it, in Yosemite you can no longer open a folder in its own window any more just by double-clicking. You have to right click to get the contextual menu. It's a stupid decision, given that this feature has been present in all previous versions of the Mac OS (pre X too) and indeed, in all versions of Windows. The flat 2 dimensional dock looks dreadful too.
Are you saying there is a hack to get around this ?
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Oct 17, 2015 10:13 AM in response to CNSby den.thed,CNS wrote:
Are you saying there is a hack to get around this ?
NO' I do not and will not use any UI hacks.
The ways I see it:
If you really want a new Mac, then you learn to live with change.
If not, then you keep running the old outdated Mac and OS X.
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Oct 18, 2015 5:09 AM in response to den.thedby CNS,Which means that in fact they CANNOT "easily be tamed down to look and do whatever you like"
I am absolutely sure that the idiotic change to the folder opening behaviour would never have been approved by Steve Jobs.