Is there a read/receipt function in mail?

rdlawson151 wrote:

Is there a read/receipt function in Mail?

No for good reason. They do not work. Read receipts are in the control of the recipient. The recipient can choose to respond or not. Many recipients believe it is nobody's business if or when they read their email.

This may be an old thread, but I have read your responses, all the way from 2011, and I just couldn't take it anymore. I understand your opinion on it not being anyone's business when you read an email, but where does your "logic" fit into the business world? If I send an email to a customer or client, I NEED to know if and when they received it. Why is it my business? Because, when they don't open that email or say they never received it, but actually did and are just ignoring me, I can use the receipt to prove the customer/client wrong, potentially saving a project or a job I am working on. I deal with 300k projects, each day. Saying you got my email and actually receiving it and taking care of the issue can be devastating. Your "logic" is only for personal email. How naive of you to think that Apple Mail is only used for personal email. It's 2016 Bob, people lie nowadays. You have to protect yourself. It's funny how you tell people not to use the Terminal solution, as it isn't supported, but where is your "logic" supported? In the fact that it is the recipients obligation to provide the receipts? Wrong. There are many clients who have no option for the recipient to stop a receipt, as it is an embedded, transparent image. You should really have an open mind when replying to so many questions regarding such an important issue. Every single one of your replies is the same. The least you could do is look at it from both aspects, not just yours, Bob. 😉

dReAdLoK wrote:

I understand your opinion on it not being anyone's business when you read an email, but where does your "logic" fit into the business world?

Not that I speak for Bob but where is your logic exactly? as Bob said the recipient controls whether a read receipt is sent and that is true whether you are sending personal mail or business mail.

Which email clients can prevent a recipient from blocking a return receipt? And, does the receipt indicate it arrived or that it was read? And does it indicate if the correct person read it or just some underling that deleted it by mistake?

dReAdLoK wrote:

This may be an old thread, but I have read your responses, all the way from 2011, and I just couldn't take it anymore. I understand your opinion on it not being anyone's business when you read an email, but where does your "logic" fit into the business world? If I send an email to a customer or client, I NEED to know if and when they received it. Why is it my business? Because, when they don't open that email or say they never received it, but actually did and are just ignoring me, I can use the receipt to prove the customer/client wrong, potentially saving a project or a job I am working on. I deal with 300k projects, each day. Saying you got my email and actually receiving it and taking care of the issue can be devastating. Your "logic" is only for personal email. How naive of you to think that Apple Mail is only used for personal email. It's 2016 Bob, people lie nowadays. You have to protect yourself. It's funny how you tell people not to use the Terminal solution, as it isn't supported, but where is your "logic" supported? In the fact that it is the recipients obligation to provide the receipts? Wrong. There are many clients who have no option for the recipient to stop a receipt, as it is an embedded, transparent image. You should really have an open mind when replying to so many questions regarding such an important issue. Every single one of your replies is the same. The least you could do is look at it from both aspects, not just yours, Bob. 😉

it's not all about what you want.

Some partial information from Gmail. Note the warning…

There are other reasons receipts are unreliable.

I have looked at it from both perspectives and my responses remain the same. Read receipts are within the control of the recipient. As to your reference to embedded transparent images, tracking bugs, this is an underhanded means of spying on your recipients/clients. This is why many knowledgeable email users disable automatic display of images in their email clients. If I was to find such an intrusive bug in an email I received from you I would immediately block all email from you. This would likely not enhance your client base especially when it became known what you are conducting business using such practices.

Once again, it is no one's business when or if I open/read my email.

Despite of all. I would like to know if the message has been delivered or not. I don't care if it was opened or not, if it was read or not, only if it was received. It gives me peace of mind regarding delicate matters I have to send to some people and for which my a.. is on the line depending on having delivered that (not important if it was read).

What is that? psicology philosophical analysis??

Computers are machines to our service, of course is all about what I want.

There is a reason why I buy specific computer brands (Mac) or software. It is because they do what I want and sometimes they do it even better.

rodx wrote:

Despite of all. I would like to know if the message has been delivered or not. I don't care if it was opened or not, if it was read or not, only if it was received. It gives me peace of mind regarding delicate matters I have to send to some people and for which my a.. is on the line depending on having delivered that (not important if it was read).

Then send a registered letter (or equivalent).

You will never know whether the email was not delivered. Mail will not respond at all to a delivery notification request--there are no settings to enable it at all. So, if the recipient is using Mail, you will never get a notification of any sort from them, no matter what you try.

Outlook and other email clients have settings to allow, ask, or deny responses. The default is currently set to Ask. So, if they aren't aware of a read receipt, they will get a popup asking if they want to respond.

If you must use email and you must get a response, then add a note to the email explaining why you must know that it was delivered.

Regarding to your first paragraph: unnecessary and probably annoyed reply with something that is obvious to do and does not answer the question. That should be the answer to a question formulated by someone who does not want to use electronic mail...anyway.

Regarding your third paragraph: indeed, that is what I do since I do not know how to enable the function I was talking about.

Regarding your second paragraph: It answers my question.

rodx wrote:

What is that? psicology philosophical analysis??

Computers are machines to our service, of course is all about what I want.

There is a reason why I buy specific computer brands (Mac) or software. It is because they do what I want and sometimes they do it even better.

Psicology ? What is that?

Despite of all what?

Can you type in English for a while, or is this your Psicology at work?

I meant Psychology, I am sorry for the misspell. I hope you get it now. Not trying to be combative though...

even the word was wrong, the idea remains.

rodx wrote:

even the word was wrong

Yes it was.