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Q: iWeb Publishing Solution in El Capitan

Not really a question but more an important solution I wanted to provide. After a recent upgrade to El Capitan I noticed that iWeb links were no longer visible after I updated two websites that I manage. The links were there - you could hover over them on the website and see the name of the hyperlink action to be taken - and they even worked but simply weren't visible. A major functionality obstacle.

 

After much investigation I published the websites to a local folder on my drive and then ftp'd onto the the hosted domain sites. File comparisons revealed fewer files published to the hosted domain site than the local folder. I deleted all files and folders on the hosted domain site folder and uploaded all files from my local website to those folders. Worked like a charm!

 

Very important information for those still using iWeb. Yes, it's an extra step but will save your behind should you run into this situation.

iWeb '08

Posted on Oct 28, 2015 11:51 AM

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Basically what the OP is saying is that they used the iWeb built in ftp to publish the entire site to the host/sever and no links were shown.  When they used an ftp programme such as Cyberduck to connect to the server and then upload the files, the links works, so one would have to suspect an issue both between iWeb and El Capitan - not sure what, but there must be something in El Capitan that is knocking out the correct working of iWeb's in built ftp.

 

The solution seems to be that you need to publish your site to a local folder and then use an ftp programme to upload it.

Posted on Oct 30, 2015 1:05 AM

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  • by Lisa C.,

    Lisa C. Lisa C. Nov 7, 2015 6:59 AM in response to stephenpeterson
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    Nov 7, 2015 6:59 AM in response to stephenpeterson

    Same problem.  It definitely is an El Capitan problem.  Only some links appear when published after upgrading to El Capitan.  They all are functional but some are invisible.  Actual image links work and appear(jpeg, psd, gif) and text links work and appear.  Text boxes used as links work and appear.  Shapes used as links function but disappear.  Discovered this the hard way.  I would not suggest using Publish entire site until you have addressed these issues.  I had to rework my site and discover ways around the problem.  Perhaps following the op's advice is a good idea.  I just changed my links into text, text box or jpeg, psd or gif files.  Seems to be working fine.

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Nov 8, 2015 1:20 AM in response to Lisa C.
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    Nov 8, 2015 1:20 AM in response to Lisa C.

    What people have actually been advising is to bypass publishing via iWeb at all and this is why people have been asking about the best ftp programmes to use.

     

    It will work if you DO NOT publish via iWeb, but rather publish your site to a local folder on your desktop and then use an ftp programme such as Cyberduck or Yummy ftp to upload your site to your server.

     

    The problem appears to be the links and publishing from within iWeb itself.  If you bypass this and upload yourself, then the problem appears to be solved/

  • by Lisa C.,

    Lisa C. Lisa C. Nov 8, 2015 6:49 AM in response to Ethmoid
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    Nov 8, 2015 6:49 AM in response to Ethmoid

    Thanks Ethmoid.  I'll try it.  I was just confirming the problem I've had and exactly what seems to be impacted.  Thanks again.

  • by Anthony Gigante,

    Anthony Gigante Anthony Gigante Nov 8, 2015 6:59 PM in response to stephenpeterson
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    Nov 8, 2015 6:59 PM in response to stephenpeterson

    I think I did everything you said to do, but without luck. Here's what I did: Published the entire site to a new folder on my drive in the Documents folder. I deleted everything on the host server (GoDaddy). I uploaded the entire site via Cyberduck from the new local folder in Documents to GoDaddy, the host. I keep getting the same result. All of the text boxes that contain a hyperlink to a file do not display, although if you hover over the area on the page, the little hand appears with a dialog showing a path to the file. I published to the new local folder via iWeb. What am I doing wrong, if anything??

  • by stephenpeterson,

    stephenpeterson stephenpeterson Nov 9, 2015 4:00 AM in response to Anthony Gigante
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    Nov 9, 2015 4:00 AM in response to Anthony Gigante

    Hey Anthony. You did all the right steps described above. This is what I did for two sites that successfully fixed the hidden link problem I originally described in this thread. I don't have a clue why this methodology isn't working for you. The only two things that are different, and I'd be hard pressed to believe that they had a material impact on your issue, is that I published to the Sites Folder (hard drive/users/username/sites) instead of the Documents folder and I used OneButton FTP instead of Cyberduck. Again, the place where the site is saved and the FTP app used shouldn't make a different. Sorry I could offer more.

     

    For the benefit of the group, I wanted to report that I pulled the plug on iWeb after this incident and have since learned and rebuilt my sites in Rapidweaver. Indeed a very different page assembly methodology. Not as intuitive as iWeb (Was is? There is nothing else out there that comes close. I did find one basic program called EverWeb that's out there for free but they only allow you to publish to their hosted site.) and the basic program requires add ons that increase functionality but add to your cost. My Rapidweaver purchased plus the right add on's totaled about $300. If you go this way, start with Joe Workman's excellent Foundation bundle ($99) which will get you much of what you need. Be prepared for a slow ramp up/learning curve. I put in about 40 hours to get proficient enough to feel comfortable with handling the nuances of the program. After the basic video training available on the website, advanced training videos cost money but the support community is robust and responsive.

     

    Good luck!

  • by Anthony Gigante,

    Anthony Gigante Anthony Gigante Nov 9, 2015 6:45 AM in response to stephenpeterson
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    Nov 9, 2015 6:45 AM in response to stephenpeterson

    Thanks Stephen. Well, I deleted the files from GoDaddy again so I could start with a clean slate. I deleted the published site in the Documents folder and republished the entire site to my Sites folder like you. I then uploaded the published site via Cyberduck to GoDaddy, all ending in the same result. Very strange. Not sure what to do at this point out side of your recommendation with new software and the like. I mean, I'm tech savvy, but as far as getting in deeper with Rapidweaver and what not, I don't know. The site I have isn't for a business, it's for the lake community I live in. The website is basically an informative stop with the occasional link to a form or event info post.

     

    Anyway, thanks for the help. Much appreciated. I'll keep fiddlin' with it!!

  • by stephenpeterson,

    stephenpeterson stephenpeterson Nov 9, 2015 6:58 AM in response to Anthony Gigante
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    Nov 9, 2015 6:58 AM in response to Anthony Gigante

    Bummer Anthony! Right, at this point I don't know what's going on either. You've done everything as I have done it. One of my sites is not for business either but is HEAVILY peppered with links so I was forced to do something before the site was rendered completely useless. One last thought.

     

    My two sites were previously on Go Daddy's Economy Classic Hosting Linux, which is being phased out. I migrated my two sites to slightly different versions of CPanel hosting, which is a more modern infrastructure (one was moved to Economy Linux Hosting with cPanel and the other to Deluxe Linux Hosting with cPanel). If you are managing just one site in this domain than the Economy Linux Hosting with cPanel would serve your needs).

     

    The infrastructure is not only faster but actually ended up costing me less than the older hosting options. I can't say for sure that moving to this infrastructure would make a difference since the sequencing of my issue and the move to CPanel would not definitively prove or disprove this being a solution but it might be worth a shot. Call Go Daddy and see what your options are for your hosting. Good luck!

  • by Anthony Gigante,

    Anthony Gigante Anthony Gigante Nov 9, 2015 7:03 AM in response to stephenpeterson
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    Nov 9, 2015 7:03 AM in response to stephenpeterson

    Thank you again Stephen. Appreciate the help. I will call GoDaddy and ask for their advice on a better hosting plan. On the surface, it does not seem to be the issue, but you never know. Again, thanks for the suggestion!!

  • by Lisa C.,

    Lisa C. Lisa C. Nov 9, 2015 7:35 AM in response to Anthony Gigante
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    Nov 9, 2015 7:35 AM in response to Anthony Gigante

    I solved the immediate issue in my site by changing my links. Empty text boxes will work and show up. Also text itself used as a link appears. Links that are actual jpeg, psd, gif images appear and work. Text boxes with text where the box is the link do not appear. Shapes used as a link do not appear. I'm no tech wizard but I use my site for business and I am not prepared to switch just yet. These fixes work so I'd suggest trying them and just publishing the old way for now to get you site back up and running. 

  • by Anthony Gigante,

    Anthony Gigante Anthony Gigante Nov 9, 2015 1:23 PM in response to Lisa C.
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    Nov 9, 2015 1:23 PM in response to Lisa C.

    Thank you Lisa. Yes, those work-arounds work, thank you. Doesn't look as nice as usual, but for now, it works. Thank you!!

  • by Lisa C.,

    Lisa C. Lisa C. Nov 9, 2015 1:38 PM in response to Anthony Gigante
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    Nov 9, 2015 1:38 PM in response to Anthony Gigante

    I agree. Mine doesn't look as good either but after the panic of everything disappearing I'm just glad that it's working!  Very glad I was able to help!

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Nov 10, 2015 1:06 AM in response to stephenpeterson
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    Nov 10, 2015 1:06 AM in response to stephenpeterson

    Wow, just be careful what you say before you say it - EverWeb is far from basic and is the closest application that you are ever likely to get to iWeb.  With RapidWeaver, you cannot even start with a blank template and you add ons mount up.

     

    It is not true what you have said about EverWeb - you DO NOT have to publish to EverWeb hosting - this is an option yes, so it is like iWeb, but you do not have to - you can purchase it and publish your site to GoDaddy.

     

    Also, you can do much more with no add ons - apps from within EverWeb, such as Contact Form, Drop down nav menu and lots more that from what I have seen of RapidWeaver, you need to add.

     

    Look at a product before you comment on it, because most of what you have said about EverWeb is just plain incorrect!

  • by stephenpeterson,

    stephenpeterson stephenpeterson Nov 10, 2015 6:01 AM in response to Ethmoid
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    Nov 10, 2015 6:01 AM in response to Ethmoid

    HeyEthmoid. Thanks for setting me straight. Looks like my fact checker took the day off yesterday . I stand corrected!

  • by rrsahu,

    rrsahu rrsahu Nov 13, 2015 12:54 AM in response to stephenpeterson
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    Nov 13, 2015 12:54 AM in response to stephenpeterson

    Basically what the OP is saying is that they used the iWeb built in ftp to publish the entire site to the host/sever and no links were shown.  When they used an ftp programme such as Cyberduck to connect to the server and then upload the files, the links works, so one would have to suspect an issue both between iWeb and El Capitan - not sure what, but there must be something in El Capitan that is knocking out the correct working of iWeb's in built ftp.


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  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Nov 13, 2015 12:44 AM in response to rrsahu
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    Nov 13, 2015 12:44 AM in response to rrsahu

    Yes, I think we have worked that one out a long time ago and did not really need you to point this out!!  We understand that iWeb and El Capitan are not playing nicely together, but there is nothing to be done about it because iWeb will not be updated, so you either need to upload manually via Cyberduck or move onto another application.

     

    Stop trolling and posting irrelevant links.  It is not good practice and your post has been reported.

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