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Manual Mail Migration

Hi,


Does anyone know how to manually migrate email from another computer via target mode or external clone to a new mac running El Capitan - WITHOUT using Apple's migration assistant?


I've done this for years for clients and can't figure it out in El Capitan. I used to move these files/folders:


User - Library - Mail Folder

User - Library - Containers - com.apple.mail - data - Library - Mail Downloads

User - Library - Containers - com.apple.mail - data - Library - Preferences - com.apple.mail.plist


This always worked moving to Mavericks or Yosemite Macs... but not El Capitan.


Any thoughts on what to move?


When I did this for a client - it said migrating mail when launched... but then only showed the iCloud account - even though I moved 13GB of various IMAP and POP3 accounts, local folders, etc. Also - none of the actual email accounts appeared in mail preferences - just iCloud.


Thanks!


Sam

iMac (27-inch, Late 2012), OS X Yosemite (10.10.1)

Posted on Oct 29, 2015 9:42 PM

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Posted on Nov 6, 2015 7:27 AM

This is tricky, but I just figured it out. I'm surprised Apple doesn't have good documentation on this. The trick lies in TWO things - migrating both your Apple Mail Items AND the Internet Account Items. Before Yosemite, your email accounts were all contained in the Apple Mail folders. However, now they have been separated so if you JUST manually migrate the Apple Mail stuff, without the Internet Accounts, then Mail will open and you'll just get your a nakedn iCloud Inbox that will start to load your most recent emails. Also, it helps to copy the Keychain folder over so you don't have to re-enter all your passwords (in Mail or other places as well).


These are the files you need to copy over from your user's Library folder:


for Internet Accounts

.../Accounts (folder)


for Mail

.../Mail (folder)

.../Mail Downloads (folder)

.../Containers/com.apple.mail (folder)

.../Preferences/com.apple.accounts.plist (file)

.../Preferences/com.apple.accountsd.plist (file)

.../Preferences/com.apple.mail-shared.plist (file)

.../Preferences/com.apple.MailMigratorService.plist (file)

.../SyncedPreferences/com.apple.mail-com.apple.mail.vipsenders.plist (file)

.../SyncedPreferences/com.apple.mail.plist (file)


for Keychain

.../Keychains (folder)


I arrived at this with a fair amount of trial and error. I had backed up my old user folder (all the folders, including the Library folder) with both Time Machine and a manual copy. I played around with these on a separate, dummy user account (so I could delete it and have my nice, pristine, clean install still there once I figured it out). Finally, let me also say - BAD on you Apple for making this so complicated. Email software is one of those things that should remain elegant, even at the architecture level. Quit complicating things.

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Nov 29, 2015 9:23 AM in response to apple_mikey

Sadly, this didn't work for me either...

I'm have a bear of a time. I recently upgraded my "old" MBP to El Capitan, and then got a "new" MBP that I decided to do a fresh install.

I haven't been able to switch to the new computer because I can't figure out how to get my email switched over.


This is really driving me crazy, and I can not believe there aren't "real" instructions somewhere on how to do this.

Mar 12, 2016 11:21 AM in response to nikw9944

I've been trying to transfer Mail from one desktop machine with El Cap to my MBook Air also running El Cap. Total nighmare.


Done as suggested above manually moving the files across including the ~/library/accounts folder. The only accounts that appear in Mail are those that were there prior to the move even though I've overwritten all the previous information. Or at least I thought I had. I think the mailboxes are there but Mail is not recognising them.


I've even tried setting up 'new' mailboxes but for some reason the mail server doesn't recognise the password even though it is correct since it's the same one I use on the Desktop.


Has anyone any other ideas as this is really driving me crazy. Other posters are right - it really shouldn't be this difficult.

Mar 20, 2016 3:51 PM in response to apple_mikey

Hi,


I don't suppose you have any advice for someone moving mail from Mountain Lion to a brand new MacBook Air running El Capitan? I haven't been able to access my Time Machine backups from the new computer so far, and it sounds like importing from those might not work anyway. Setting up my accounts and rules from scratch on the new machine wouldn't be a problem, just a hassle. But I have a lot of mailboxes on the Mountain Lion Macbook that I'd like to transfer over to the new El Capitan machine if possible, and I'm not sure how to proceed. Sorry to bug you, and I wish Apple had some official help available for this.

Mar 29, 2016 2:36 AM in response to apple_mikey

Hi apple_mikey,


unfortunately, that didn't work for me. Most of the Folders and files where there and I replaced it, but Mail didn't show anything.

But as I archive all the mails from time to time to local folders, I'm right now importing all the Local Mailboxes which seems to work well using the import function. Still running... hope everything is there when finished.

I have two IMAP mailboxes, downloading them should also be no problem. So that's my workaround to get my mails into my fresh install of El Capitan.

Apr 18, 2016 2:00 AM in response to MrAgapi

Which posting did you reply to?

I imported the Mails i had in "Local mailboxes" using the import function. Import - Apple Mail... 10.000s of mails, takes some time, but worked good.

I'm archiving the IMAP mails from time to time in local mailboxes (inbox 2013, 2014 and so on) and I'm saving attachments somewhere else and remove them from the mails, so the imap folders don't get too big.

May 9, 2016 4:36 AM in response to maxmaxie

See this post for an extensive description of problems and steps taken to solve them in migrating mail from a cloned 10.8 system to a fresh install of 10.11.


In the end, I almost succeeded — everything was there: messages, mailboxes on my Mac, smart mailboxes, rules, other preferences, etc. Except that I only had 5,000 messages instead of the 7,000 I had on my 10.8 system.


Some of the steps described here didn’t work for me, but I have to admit I never tried the whole sequence, and my other post does not address that. Curious and insatiable as I am, I think I will redo my mail transfer following these exact steps and see what happens.


Thanks for your post. I know how much experimentation goes into discovering and describing this kind of thing effectively.

May 24, 2016 7:25 AM in response to apple_mikey

Thank you apple_mikey! I did a clean install of El Capitan and was able to fairly easily customize and/or copy Library files from my old Mac to my new Mac, but could not come close to getting Mail (along with hundreds of folders and subfolders) to work on the new Mac. Then I found you solution, carefully followed it, and--low and behold--it worked! The only think I needed to do to get it to fully work was a restart of the Mac.


Thank you so much for taking the time to work through this and for the detailed solution!

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