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Oct 30, 2015 8:28 PM in response to cindyinabugby Phil0124,If you have not already set it up to be used as a remote, then you can't. As the actual remote is needed for the setup.
Set up the Remote app for your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch - Apple Support
Also, the Remote App is not supported on an Apple Tv 4th Generation.
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Dec 11, 2015 10:21 AM in response to cindyinabugby Josshad,You can pair Apple TV with CiderTV app for mac without remote(But you need to reset AppleTV via iTunes app).
After that you can pair Remote app or CiderTV for iOS