Mike Bender
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Q: Turning on iCloud Photo Library on iOS Device

I am running iOS 9.1 on my iPhone 6plus. I do not have iCould Photo Library enabled. I am experiencing issues with the photos I take eon my iPhone not showing up on my MacBook Pro running El Captain (long-standing issue even with Yosemite). So, I thought that I'd enable iCould Photo Library on my iPhone, but when I turn it on, I get a popup that tells me that "Photos and Videos synced with iTunes will be removed" and tells me that something like 3000+ items will be deleted. So, what is that abut? Am I going to loose 3000+ photos and videos that I've taken when I turn this feature on?

 

I don't really care about  iCould Photo Library one way or the other, what I really want is for the Photos app on OS X to properly sync with pictures I take on my iOS devices.

Posted on Oct 31, 2015 10:54 PM

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Q: Turning on iCloud Photo Library on iOS Device

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  • by fromsouth,

    fromsouth fromsouth Nov 1, 2015 5:19 AM in response to Mike Bender
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    Nov 1, 2015 5:19 AM in response to Mike Bender

    The message simply means that if you have previously synced any photos from your mac to iphone they will be removed. Those photos presumably on your mac already or you would not be able to sync them. So it is not really a loss.

    Problem is not with the message, but more with the fact that you do not know what you really need. I am going to give you two articles to ponder.

    iCloud Photo Library FAQ - Apple Support

     

    My Photo Stream FAQ - Apple Support

  • by Mike Bender,

    Mike Bender Mike Bender Nov 1, 2015 12:24 PM in response to fromsouth
    Level 1 (16 points)
    Nov 1, 2015 12:24 PM in response to fromsouth

    Thanks for your reply. I do know what I really need. I need the system to work the way it used to work before Apple "improved" it with the changes to the photo handling subsystem. I want to be able to take a picture eon my iOS device and have it show up on all my devices. It used to do that before the iPhoto -> Photos / iCloud Photo Library "improvements" which broke existing behavior.

     

    The message is problematic because it doesn't tell me if the objects that are going to be deleted exist anywhere else - "presumably" (in your words) isn't a useful response because it doesn't give me confidence that I won't experience loss of valuable data, hence my assertion that the message, while technically correct, is useless to the end user in letting them know if their valuable data (pictures, video, etc...) will be irretrievably lost.

     

    So back to my original issue - how do I get a picture that I took on my iOS device to show up in the Photos app on El Capitan? I filed a bug with Apple on this issue:  23346673.


    Mike


  • by fromsouth,

    fromsouth fromsouth Nov 1, 2015 1:27 PM in response to Mike Bender
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    Nov 1, 2015 1:27 PM in response to Mike Bender

    If it was possible for stranger's advice to give you confidence that you are missing now, I would call you very gullible person. I would conciser myself more of an IT guy then psychiatrist - who would be more adverse to address confidence building. As technical advice goes you can keep icloud photo library off and old ways should  be back. No confidence here either, sorry.

  • by Mike Bender,

    Mike Bender Mike Bender Nov 1, 2015 1:32 PM in response to Mike Bender
    Level 1 (16 points)
    Nov 1, 2015 1:32 PM in response to Mike Bender

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    So, iCloud Photo Stream syncing used to work flawlessly until the recent transition to iCloud Photo Library, Photos OS X app and iOS 8.X and later "improvements". Now in order to get the same functionality I used to have (synching across all my devices), I have to pay Apple more money for more storage (I am already paying for 25GB of iCloud storage). How does this benefit me, the customer?

  • by Mike Bender,

    Mike Bender Mike Bender Nov 1, 2015 1:43 PM in response to fromsouth
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    Nov 1, 2015 1:43 PM in response to fromsouth

    Your reply doesn't make any sense, surprising given your "Level 5" status, and your assertion that you are an "IT guy", which (presumably) means that you help people, not berate a user that is expecting behavior that the products used to provide by calling me "gullable". I have a simple question - how do I get the behavior back that the Apple products used to give me before this "improvement"? A lot of people are having issues with Photos / Photo Stream syncing with iOS devices (do a search in this forum) and there are no solutions other than "reboot your Mac", which is the advice that I'm sure you give to Windows users when stuff doesn't work.

     

    So, thank you again for taking your time to respond here. You didn't help me at all with my issue, but you did manage to basically call me an idiot (in nicer language). You don't know who I am, but I will tell you that in my long career in the tech industry in Silicon Valley, I have found that the people that are the most knowledgable are able to provide the clearest, most useful help when asked. If you really don't know how to fix Photo Stream syncing issues, then I would have preferred that you didn't respond rather than post some links (that anyone could easily find with a simple search), tell me I don't really know what I want, and then call me gullible and write some palatal about not being a psychiatrist.