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Q: Does ANYONE Have a Working iPad with 1000+ Apps after Updating to iOS 9.x?

after extensive testing and failures on 5 different model devices, it appears the fix for the high number of apps fixed in 8.4 is now broken, but not rebooting the device.

 

issues include failure to upgrade to iOS 9.x - even 9.0.x > 9.1

 

unable to restore backup. Quits installing after a period of time even though it restored successfully onto 8.4.1 device

 

same issues even if setting up as new device.

 

unable to backup device

 

unable to update apps. Downloads but does not install.

 

unable to to install new apps. Downloads but does not install

 

unable to delete apps. Like a Zombie, they return after power cycling

 

have spent over 1,000 hours on this. Same issues on iPhone 5, iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iphone 6s, iPad Air

 

lokking for ANYONE who has iOS 9x with 1000+ apps that can do the above successfully

 

thx

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Posted on Nov 1, 2015 3:31 AM

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Q: Does ANYONE Have a Working iPad with 1000+ Apps after Updating to iOS 9.x?

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  • by Wanderoldies,

    Wanderoldies Wanderoldies Nov 1, 2015 6:31 PM in response to bobseufert
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    Nov 1, 2015 6:31 PM in response to bobseufert

    I Had over 1750 apps (I forgot the exact amount) on my iPad Air 1. When I got the iPad Air 2 I deleted some of them. The first screen shot is of itunes and it shows how many apps were on it on my last back up in Sept before I got iOS 9. You will see there were 1495 Apps (at the bottom of the page).The second screen shot is of this iPad Air 2 right now. I deleted almost 500 apps, so on it right now I have slightly over 1000 apps. But my last back up before iOS 9 shows almost 1500. I cannot backup now,

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  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Nov 1, 2015 6:43 PM in response to MichelPM
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    Nov 1, 2015 6:43 PM in response to MichelPM

    BBackups have always only saved data. That isn't a change. I explained why apps are no longer transferred from iOS devices to iTunes when you back up ( they were copied to the iTunes media library prior to iOS 9, not put in the backup.) It's because of app thinning. And the reason for app thinning is to allow apps to be smaller, so they take up less storage on your iOS device. If you have a 16 GB iPhone this can really make a difference. IF you really want a copy of the app in iTunes you can download it directly to iTunes from the App Store.

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Nov 1, 2015 6:45 PM in response to Wanderoldies
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    Nov 1, 2015 6:45 PM in response to Wanderoldies

    THAT is just a cargo container ship full of applications!!!!!

    Why, WHY do you think you really need all of these on your iPad????

    This is just insanity to me that you think you need this many apps loaded up on a mobile device!

    How do most of these apps run on your iPad when you are using them?

    You may have a 128 GBs of storage on your iPad, but you only have 2 GBs of operational RAM.

    Meaning that you ARE limited to how many apps can, actually, operate in the background while using another app.

  • by Wanderoldies,

    Wanderoldies Wanderoldies Nov 1, 2015 6:46 PM in response to MichelPM
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    Nov 1, 2015 6:46 PM in response to MichelPM

    My iPad air 1 had over 1700 apps and I had absolutely no problems whatsoever. I have since deleted about 500 apps and will probably delete a couple of hundred more. I do not use all the apps at the same time, so I do not tax the system. I have very complicated electronics here and I do very complicated things that most of you do not do. If you want the iPad to just make notes and read email, then by all means have a few apps and 16 gig of space. I didn't buy an iPad for a toy. I use it for several complacated things. That's why I'm getting an iPad Pro as soon as it comes out. Btw, you'd be surprised at how powerful these iPads really are if you used them for very complicated things. If you saw the way my Computer room and my media room is set up, you'd understand what I'm talking about. Sorry, I'm not putting up any pics of them for obvious reasons (I'm not advertising to thieves what I have here). If you believe me fine. If not, then all I have to say is "frankly, I don't give a ****".

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Nov 1, 2015 7:06 PM in response to Wanderoldies
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    Nov 1, 2015 7:06 PM in response to Wanderoldies

    I am NOT a casual user of iPads or other iDevices, either.

    I am a creative, artistic user though and I, also, plan to get an iPad Pro ( going for the 128 GB WiFi model).

    I also, use my iPad for both photographic work and entertainment purposes, too!

    My iPad 3 is loaded up with over 200 apps. Of which I use about 50-60 of these on a regular or semi-regular basis over a typical month.

    Others I have loaded, I use when I need them for a specific purpose.

    I am NOT a casual user of these devices. As an artist, the iPad is an amazing device for doing digital art!

    Been waiting for larger iPads for 5 years!

    My only hesitation is Apple's pricing for these larger iPads as I have never spent that kind of money on any mobile device.

    I have about 2 weeks to reconcile the price vs value and functionality.

  • by Philly_Phan,

    Philly_Phan Philly_Phan Nov 1, 2015 7:10 PM in response to FLBeachComber
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    Nov 1, 2015 7:10 PM in response to FLBeachComber

    FLBeachComber wrote:

     

    I was actually looking for proof it could not be done.

    It is a logical impossibility to prove a negative.

  • by Philly_Phan,

    Philly_Phan Philly_Phan Nov 1, 2015 7:11 PM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Nov 1, 2015 7:11 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

    Lawrence Finch wrote:

     

    There have been only about 700 hours since the actual availability of iOS 9. So it would have been impossible to work 1,000 hours on it; the most anyone could work would be 700 hours, and that only if they didn't pause to sleep, eat or deal with other bodily functions. And you would have to be independently wealthy, so you wouldn't have to work a day job. So with that exaggeration to start with, I think we can ignore the others also.

    Exaggeration?  How about "outright lie?"

  • by Philly_Phan,

    Philly_Phan Philly_Phan Nov 1, 2015 7:13 PM in response to FLBeachComber
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    Nov 1, 2015 7:13 PM in response to FLBeachComber

    I have 7000 apps on mine with no problems!

  • by Wanderoldies,

    Wanderoldies Wanderoldies Nov 1, 2015 7:13 PM in response to MichelPM
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    Nov 1, 2015 7:13 PM in response to MichelPM

    Well MichelPM, I ask you this: Why do I have to use what YOU think is the right amount of apps? I'm not using an old iPad 1. And I know how much I can use and what I can't. I've been working on computers and electronic stuff probably before you were born and you would be surprised at what could be done 20 years ago on old crummy computers that were much less powerful than an iPad Is today. I don't get crashes on my iPad so why are you saying I can't do what I'm doing? Again I say, I do not use ALL the apps at the same time. However I've had as many as 10 of them open at the same time and had no crashes. Also I make a project in one app and then open it in another app. If I didn't have the other app, then I couldn't do what I wanted. I've got some of my apps doing things that many of you would think is impossible to do and my iPad is not even jail broken. You think you know about electronics because you know a few things about an iPad. The iPad Pro has 4 gig of Ram. There's a lot more to an electronic device then meets the eye. Just because a person knows something, doesn't make them an expert. I've designed Rom chips for years and even wrote my own OS for the TRS-80 computers and sold the customized OS's to businesses. I even wrote programs for Radio Shack back in the early 80's. Please don't try to tell me that I'm overloading an iPad by having a lot of apps, most of which are not being used at the same time. I'm not perfect, but when it comes to electronics, I'm an expert in my field and I know what I'm doing and what I cannot do. What is it to you anyway if I have 1000 apps? I don't believe in knocking people just because they don't believe as I do.

  • by bobseufert,

    bobseufert bobseufert Nov 1, 2015 7:28 PM in response to Wanderoldies
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    Nov 1, 2015 7:28 PM in response to Wanderoldies

    You're in good company, I discovered gravity and I let people use it free of charge.

  • by Wanderoldies,

    Wanderoldies Wanderoldies Nov 1, 2015 7:40 PM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Nov 1, 2015 7:40 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

    To Mr Lawrence Finch. You are wrong about the apps. I can see the backed up ones in my computer in a folder and the date they were backed up. Some of the apps are no longer in the App Store and if I were to restore my iPad from the cloud, I would no longer have the apps that were no longer available in the App Store. But because they indeed are backed up to my computer, if I restore a new iPad from my "Computer" backup, then I also get back the apps that are no longer made and are no longer in the App Store or on the iCloud because they are in my computer and not in the cloud. Also i understand your point about the sliced apps, but my iPad says I have 1495 apps, when I only have 1016 on my iPad. Also it says I have more space on my iPad then I actually have. I make two backups. One on one computer and one on another computer. They now both say different amount of apps and tell me I have different amounts of memory in my iPad. Both computers should say the same thing. Explain that? Both backups were made at the same time on two different computers using the same version of iTunes. But time will tell. If I use a backup on the iPad Pro and it doesn't put in my apps that are no longer in the App Store or it won't restore at all, then I'll know that there is something wrong with computer backups in iOS 9 on my iPad. In the past when I got my new iPad Air 2, I used the backup from iPad Air 1 and it put in all the apps that are not in the cloud anymore because they were taken down by Apple. So if the apps were not in my computer but in the cloud, then how did they get into my iPad Air 2 backup if they were not in my computer? Apple kills all apps in the cloud for a persons account if that app is no longer available, so it would be impossible for the apps to go into my iPad Air 2 if they were not already in my computer.

  • by Philly_Phan,

    Philly_Phan Philly_Phan Nov 1, 2015 7:44 PM in response to Wanderoldies
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    Nov 1, 2015 7:44 PM in response to Wanderoldies

    Wanderoldies wrote:

     

    To Mr Lawrence Finch. You are wrong about the apps. I can see the backed up ones in my computer in a folder and the date they were backed up. Some of the apps are no longer in the App Store and if I were to restore my iPad from the cloud, I would no longer have the apps that were no longer available in the App Store. But because they indeed are backed up to my computer, if I restore a new iPad from my "Computer" backup, then I also get back the apps that are no longer made and are no longer in the App Store or on the iCloud because they are in my computer and not in the cloud. Also i understand your point about the sliced apps, but my iPad says I have 1495 apps, when I only have 1016 on my iPad. Also it says I have more space on my iPad then I actually have. I make two backups. One on one computer and one on another computer. They now both say different amount of apps and tell me I have different amounts of memory in my iPad. Both computers should say the same thing. Explain that? Both backups were made at the same time on two different computers using the same version of iTunes. But time will tell. If I use a backup on the iPad Pro and it doesn't put in my apps that are no longer in the App Store or it won't restore at all, then I'll know that there is something wrong with computer backups in iOS 9 on my iPad. In the past when I got my new iPad Air 2, I used the backup from iPad Air 1 and it put in all the apps that are not in the cloud anymore because they were taken down by Apple. So if the apps were not in my computer but in the cloud, then how did they get into my iPad Air 2 backup if they were not in my computer? Apple kills all apps in the cloud for a persons account if that app is no longer available, so it would be impossible for the apps to go into my iPad Air 2 if they were not already in my computer.

    Say what?

  • by Wanderoldies,

    Wanderoldies Wanderoldies Nov 1, 2015 7:47 PM in response to bobseufert
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    Nov 1, 2015 7:47 PM in response to bobseufert

    Im sorry bobseufert, but gravity will not work in an iPad because an iPad doesn't have enough memory. Also Apple says that it is a feature that they didn't invent so it can't be used on their equipment.

     

  • by bobseufert,

    bobseufert bobseufert Nov 1, 2015 7:51 PM in response to Wanderoldies
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    Nov 1, 2015 7:51 PM in response to Wanderoldies

    I refused to license it to them. Poor Siri has to hold on with all her strength or risk flying off into the ether. 

  • by Wanderoldies,

    Wanderoldies Wanderoldies Nov 1, 2015 7:52 PM in response to Philly_Phan
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    Nov 1, 2015 7:52 PM in response to Philly_Phan

    To Philly_Phan. I made it too complicated. I didn't understand what I wrote either. Who cares. Goodnight all.

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